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post Dec 27 2021, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(arsenalis @ Dec 27 2021, 03:01 PM)
Did TS do research about Bold engine oil then? Even cheaper than Mizu.
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I wouldnt touch Bold at all. They have no API cert officially, but they dare to put api rating. Suspicious. A big no no.
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post Dec 27 2021, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Dec 27 2021, 03:25 PM)
Which part is fake? The chicken or the oil?
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Chicken la. Mizu oil i approved, not fake
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post Dec 27 2021, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Gendude @ Dec 27 2021, 03:36 PM)
bold macam mana?lagi murah dari mizu
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I won't touch bold. On their bottle they put API rating, but check officially dont have. Tipu ke?
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post Dec 27 2021, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Dec 27 2021, 03:54 PM)
Got money buy nice performance car.

But skim on engine oil ?
Using cheap oil?

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Im using kendall gt1 max bro. Much better than factory engine oil. Im just recommending this mizu oil to ktards for normal usage is OK. Heck i think use in my car also ok.
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post Dec 27 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(ken_hidaibuki @ Dec 27 2021, 04:16 PM)
Im using semi syn oil from BOLD. This is my 4th pack. Using in 4g92.. Good for daily use.. Cheaper than mizu..
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Well... up to u but i wont risk it since no api rating. Basically nobody knows and monitors what base oil and formulation inside.

U know JTX engine oil?
At first all also like. Say smooth n what not. Now nobody using because after 1-2 years many engine got problems. When they open saw kerak kerak engine oil. Means the oil losses its life before the change intervals. Again, no api rating.
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post Dec 27 2021, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Dec 27 2021, 04:26 PM)
for tough usage but want cheap?

the petronas synthium 800 i normal use also cannot last
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Redline fully synthetic, but it wont last because ada banyak ester. Apparently the ester will burn and u losses around 1L for 4000km. But it will protect your engine and your engine wont losses power after touge long long also. Cheap engine oil, once hot u will feel your engine losses power. - i got this from an engine builder, dunno true or not.

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post Dec 27 2021, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Dec 27 2021, 04:27 PM)
meet specification is only one part

keeping that specification until next service is the real story
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Meet specs means it will last until last service interval d la in normal conditions. Dont la take it masuk jungle tracking, masuk sungai, racing at track pulak.
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post Dec 27 2021, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(rcracer @ Dec 27 2021, 04:51 PM)
no la, oil specification only based on new oil not used oil

cheap synthetics are cheap for a reason , one of which is, they take a lower viscosity base oil like 20 or 30 and build it up with viscosity modifiers or improvers to make it meet the wanted viscosity

but there modifiers get broken down by shearing forces and the longer it's used the thinner the oil gets , the Golden rule always applies, you get what you pay for
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Of course it went throught vigorous testing already to make sure it can last their service life... Takkan la no test and just gv cert? Crazy meh? These certs damn expensive wei, if it is so loose, what is the point and everybody wont even bat an eye on the certs la.

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post Dec 27 2021, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 27 2021, 04:47 PM)
yeah why not!
for next service can buy from him
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post Dec 27 2021, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Dec 27 2021, 06:00 PM)
How does the cert work? Do they get checked on their product quality?

Could they have sent a good product for the certification only to sell recycled oil to customers?

Just playing devil's advocate here cause I checked the site and it seems dodgy as hell.
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I have no idea. I just know its strict and expensive. Maybe got spot checks, audits, visits, sample taking etc.

Actually im willing to partially pay for lab test if someone willing to do it for 10k km in their stock ride. Must be at least 50% city drive. If ktards willing, maybe gather 5 ppl then we split the cost
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post Dec 27 2021, 06:34 PM

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QUOTE(tky1993 @ Dec 27 2021, 05:03 PM)
Cb ts if next time I buy this oil price increased i cum whack 9 you
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Good things must share....and and and also i am not using mizu so wont affect me negatively kekeke
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post Dec 27 2021, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(Fenix98 @ Dec 27 2021, 06:58 PM)
Well no one calls a converted car a k20a type r..

Trash

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Eh wait. Apasal i kena splash damage. Im not the one calling u trash panda sad.gif
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post Dec 27 2021, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(loserguy @ Dec 27 2021, 07:09 PM)
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post Dec 27 2021, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Dec 27 2021, 08:16 PM)
potong steam, harga naik after TS viral. idiot

for that price, there are alternatives. no need la miuzui
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Haiyo im not influencer also. Wont naik la.
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post Dec 27 2021, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Dec 27 2021, 07:43 PM)
Respect TS at least sharing his findings. Funnily enough I was doing research recently and was considering Bold/Mizu. Chose Mizu in the end.
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Somehow also got ppl report my thread as spam lol.

QUOTE(Strike Eureka @ Dec 27 2021, 08:06 PM)
I buy Tesco she'll fully synthetic 5-40 punya.....
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Last time i also use tesco shell. Ok je no problem
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post Jan 17 2022, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(zuozi @ Jan 17 2022, 01:41 PM)
Ain't all engine oil from mineral base? Then add on all kinds additive ?
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Nope. Some is man made aka synthetic. Some mixture of mineral base and synthetic. Also synthetic has few types. Some better for performance than other synthetics.
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post Jan 17 2022, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(wanna be hi-tech @ Jan 17 2022, 02:13 PM)
How many years you have been using cheap oil ?
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Well.. my old toyota 4AGE 20V blacktop i use cheap FS like tesco brand 5w40 fully and tesco shell 5w40 fully for 5 years no issue till i sold it.
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post Jan 17 2022, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(strife01 @ Jan 17 2022, 02:21 PM)
for daily use ok la, can change every 5k.
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Daily aggresive drive.
Sr20ve 20v modded 225hp engine. Tesco shell fs change every 7k km.

Engine condition after few years when i open up to change head gasket.
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post Jan 17 2022, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(wanna be hi-tech @ Jan 17 2022, 03:06 PM)
That engine is a monster. If you pour pour palm oil in it and tell it its FS, it will do the job. However current engines + the amount fake engine oils around, its quite a risk to take.
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Yeah old engines tolerances bigger. Current engines all tight tight tolerances but jimat minyak la.
My sr20ve 20v neo vvl using few years tesco shell fs also no problem.
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post Oct 30 2022, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(CrunchyKitkatZ @ Oct 30 2022, 02:16 AM)
Another thing to consider is, the cert is just a benchmark, a minimum requirement. Better expensive oil far exceeds that requirement. You get what you pay for. There was this post by a chemist angmo in this forum, give it a read. https://cliosport.net/threads/oil-you-get-w...pay-for.104429/
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Daily cars are ok with the min requirement for normal driving and sprinting occasionally. My previous 4age 20v blacktop using tesco fully syn engine oil also ok.
Those track cars probably need min requirement a3/b4.

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