Hi. I plan to buy peugeot 5008 after decided between
this model and tiguan & passat (best handling)
I choose this because

- this facelift less problem than model below 2016
- naza already handover BAuto for after sales
- manufacture by world class global automaker stellantis
- spacious rear seat (i didnt like mpv) than tiguan and mazda
- i cockpit
- handling not bad
- less problem than tiguan? Maybe..
- front grill better than previous
- spacious at the boot
- price below RM180k

How about your opinion about this model? Please help me
Thank you

This post has been edited by maximushiglander: Dec 26 2021, 07:27 AM

I hear the word peugeot gives me the chills. My friend bought a new 5008 during Naza era. Problem after problem. No one knows how to fix. After 1.5 years, cannot tahan already, sold for 40k only. Good luck, bro!

2021 model - RM170k+++
2020 model used - RM120k
2014-16 model mpv - RM40k+-

gg another pigot user

topup a bit go Harrier then thank me later.

When he bought his car?

Peugeot quality suspect,
Spare parts hard to get. (Never rely on Berjaya to carry stock. )
Low resale value.
Outside mechanics are not able to repair it.

TS make sure you have a spare car when it comes to owning a Peugeot or WW for good reasons. im sure many owner of those brands car would agree with me.

Or just buy a used Harrier still way better than a new Pgt! 😁

Ride handling harrier as best as 5008?
Why you prefer harrier? Is it by RV and less maintenance or what?
Tq you for your great respond

My budget rm180k and below

This post has been edited by maximushiglander: Dec 26 2021, 09:50 AM

Is it this current model 2021
Still facing all those issue except RV?
Although stellantis handle manufacture and Bauto
handle after sale?
Happy to hear your thought

Too many suggest to avoid own this unit
Happy to hear your feedback
Respect your opinion
Will consider
For sure, it is all about calculate risk
To own car another 10-12 years after this

Also harrier? Wow…
Never thought about harrier
What year model?

LOL. First you dreamed of Peugeot, then the moment someone comes in and say Buy a used Harrier from a person which never owned a Peugeot, you got persuaded into a JDM.

Why not you join this Peugeot 5008 group
https://facebook.com/groups/545990159083956/

And ask there rather than asking /K members which probably drive a Vavi only and say Peugeot sucks "because I heard it from my grandmother that this car i heard from my friend whom her friend which is 'whoever' relative, told her so, it sucks"

This post has been edited by pcdoctor_my: Dec 26 2021, 11:05 AM

yeah used Harrier also better than pigot

New Harrier is on the TNGA platform already, ride and handling is top quality.
No need to say RV and maintenance Harrier wins hand down over 5008 already.

Budget 180k below can consider Mazda CX-8, build quality and ride handling better.

Don't believe, put up survey - Harrier vs CX-8 vs 5008 see which one get more votes ?

Less problems indeed but the turbo or gearbox will fail within 5-6 years. My turbo already replaced outside twice!

Also, the cat converter will fail after 5 years. Mine failed a long time ago and now every now and then the CE light will pop up. Just pump RON 97-100 then ok. If RON 95, this light will remain on for days and weeks.

As for the gearbox, mine already 9 years old and started to have some slip at higher gears.

Peugeot, buy at own risk. Engineered to fail!

is a good car to learn automotive knowledges.
provided u prepare for tuition fees

Yes i already posted on that group
Mostly racun me to buy. Huhu.
And i agreed certain from them
Now i need third and forth opinions
From others about this model

Harrier is too boring design inside and outside
For old model
New facelift much better design but price over my budget
Maybe reconsider mazda cx8 also
What the obvious different
between midplus and highspec petrol 2.5?

This post has been edited by maximushiglander: Dec 26 2021, 01:35 PM

Testimony from a Pgt owner below. 😅

Ok lor if Harrier is boring and you want "unexpected excitements" in your life then buy the Pgt lor. 😆

New Peugeots are fine. Its just the past bad reputation has ruined it for many.

Don't get the 5008 if you expect to fill with 7 people though. The 3rd row seats are useless

The cx8 (especially 6 seater version) are much roomier and comfier

This post has been edited by Boy96: Dec 26 2021, 01:53 PM

Cannot afford quality but want gaya mesti ada.

Great respond from you
You buy this model at what year?

Mine is a 2012, Peugeot 3008. Same engine as the 5008. Already claimed the extended warranty so the parts will make same as the current models.

Naza replaced 8 parts on mine. At the moment, it is reliable for daily use. But remember, Peugeot cars love nagging at the drivers with every problems like Engine Faults, Depollution Error, Economy Mode Active and more. If u not familiar, it can be daunting and sometimes panic.

The European models dumped this shitty EP6 for the latest one. Even BMW also dumped this trash from all their models. The rest of the world got this old crappy engine.

Why I kept mine? Because cannot sell it. Car dealers lowball offers from 10-13K. Even direct buyers also lowball 16-17K.

Peugeot is NOT designed for hot climates like MY. For example, the AC will prioritize Hot first before Cold. Imagine starting the car and need to wait until the engine temp reached 90C then only the compressor kicks in. U probably die from the heat first.

The rubberised plastics started to melt on mine especially the power window switches. It will be sticky and attracts lots of dirt and dust.

Creaks and squeaks from the centre console. Very annoying on bumpy roads. Heck, my 2004 Savvy don't even have this issue.

This post has been edited by acbc: Dec 26 2021, 02:32 PM

Looking for a SUV too here
Just like other bros here, quite skeptical with Peugeot after sales service
Indeed very futuristic look
But worry it ends up "just looking" in SC

I'm considering CX-8 and Harrier
Both were said to have great handling
But the interior really really outdated especially CX-8
Hoping there will be a facelift CX8 in 2022

Buying a Peugeot is like marrying a good woman in an everlasting marriage. After several years, she will nag nonstop and give u unnecessary stress. If given a choice, I would have opt for something else.

Hahaha what an analogy! So if you still have to have something nagging in your life, at least just get a wife but don't top it up again with a car that nags like a wife! 😆

Next car will be totally analogue. No electronics! Everything purely mechanical.

Yup, traditional analog car is the best! That's why I am never really interested in any new cars for the last 10 years. Only Lotus and the latest GR Yaris are interesting.

Maybe had any other option? Huhu

harrier is boring becos it get the job done everytime <<< like that also wanna complain then u shall buy 5008 lah.

I like the rear seat, spacious
Didnt expect much for third row
But still bad review for this new version

The new version still uses the same crappy EP6 Prince engine. No matter what refinements or software updates, the engine itself is still crap. Now dumped by BMW and even Peugeot themselves from all European models.

Peugeot use same engine over 12 years?
Heard many bad service from naza + incompetent model
Model from french
Even with production stelista still cant give the reliable engine + good material suitable with our climate?
Thank you sharing your HONEST & REAL EXPERIENCE
Really help me to decide for my future car

Haha

What mode that u are looking right now?
Mind sharing here

Only 4 engines for Peugeot since 2010.

1.6 NA
1.6 turbo
2.0 NA
2.2 turbo diesel

The most popular being the 1.6 turbo EP6 Prince co-developed with BMW. U will find this on BMW, Citroen and Mini. All 3 brands suffered the same shitty problems as Peugeot.

Starting 2014, BMW and Mini dumped this shitty engine from all their models. Citroen and Peugeot kept using it for other world models. In own country, France not using it anymore.

To avoid most of the problems, this engine need to driven hard like going outstation every 2 weeks or keeping the redline above 3-4K. Doing so will free up any carbon buildups inside the engine. In the process, u also kill the gearbox and turbo plus high pressure fuel pump.

Now, as long u know where to find parts and professional workshops, still worth considering but might empty your wallets faster. Then again, Peugeot is a cheap way to own a continental. Models like 2010 308 goes for peanuts at RM 12-13K up. Repair another 6-7K. All below 20K and great for cash buyers. Just be prepared to spend over 2-3K for any major breakdowns at the professional shops.

Some items are ridiculously expensive from Naza like:

Turbo, over 13K
High pressure fuel pump, 4K
Low pressure fuel pump, 2K
ABS sensors, 300+ each
Air-con compressor, over 3K

U can fix the above outside for 1/3 of the cost professionally.

After fixing outside, start saving for 3K after 2-3 years to replace both fuel pumps. Damn French so smart to put the most important part on the engine itself subjected to hot air and vibrations from the engine. The Japanese much smarter by putting the high pressure fuel pump in the petrol tank which it is much cooler and less vibrations.

The ECU for both engine and gearbox are located in the engine bay. If water goes in, that's another 5-6K per ECU. The body ECU is in the centre console. If water goes in, it will another 3-4K.

This post has been edited by acbc: Dec 26 2021, 07:27 PM

I see your key words here "10-12 year"...
I am not sure about Peugeot though..
VW adi gave me tonnes of headache in it's 7th year.

Mazda CX8 should be a good alternative.
Mazda is well known for its handling..
At least I see more older Mazda on the road than the older Peugeot

Conti cars being Conti cars, their car building philosophy are very similar.. pushing the technology as soon as possible to the public with less proven compared to the Japanese. European car manufacturers target is to attract buyers with their latest tech to earn $$, using plastic parts that only last for a few years.

While Japanese especially Toyota practice incremental improvement and uses proven components and technology, customer comes first.

It's all in their philosophy.

This post has been edited by OrangeGrove: Dec 26 2021, 08:19 PM

I really dont understand pug enthusiasts. Dah la so many never ending horror stories about the hell ex pug owners went through...but STILL...STILL got some weirdos who wanna buy a Pug and go through the same hell??

Whats wrong with these people?? Still wanna buy a PUG and suffer like hell even after knowing they will get hell??

all my friends who are ex PUG owners vowed to NEVER ever buy another Pug forever. Takpe la TS. Since you like PUG so much... go for it and 'enjoy' la. I will see how long it will take before you become an ex PUG owner :-D

I drive a first Gen 2018 1.6 vti. It does handle well but not like an F1, to check your expectations. Besides, spirited cornering and handling maybe only 5% or less of the ownership experience.

I’d say that reliability is much more important (it really isn’t, and I have an NA car).

If money is no object, you can sell it after 5 years at a huge loss and buy another 5008. That is really what Peugeot wants. Otherwise after that really prepare to spend a few days and a few k’s for the smallest of problems and every few months.

My french colleague based in KL asked me why Malaysian want to buy french cars... Lol.. he himself drives an Estima here..

Hahaha. If its a RENAULT, PUG or CITROEN...stay away!! These cars are not from France. They are from HELL cos they give non stop hell to the owners and make the owners' wallets dry thx to the never ending problems.

Actually according to my french colleague, french cars are pretty reliable in France, he owned a 206 diesel. Probably diesel variant with manual gearbox is ok..
While probably its petrol variant not as reliable in other countries..

This post has been edited by OrangeGrove: Dec 26 2021, 09:29 PM

She. Peugeot Glenmarie.

PUG is for cold countries. It will continue to give hell to owners in Hot countries. FRANCE is a cold country. GO figure.

There’s really nothing special about Peugeot to live with the unreliability. If it was an Alfa Romeo I’d understand.

As other people mentioned, it’s still using an old engine which has been dumped by BMW. And the engine has nothing but proven shit reliability. I would agree if fan boys say it’s improved. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it’s still a pig.

A used harrier with the 2L turbo is great IMO. CRV, CX-5 turbo are all easily better choice. If you want that continental feel I think X1 pre-reg may be had for sub 200k — you got to check. I’d buy a Tiguan before I touch a Peugeot. I’d even buy a Geely Proton over a Peugeot.

Yea.. there is something about the Alfa Romeo's romance that people are willing to deal with it's unreliability and still willing to own and keep one (if you are lucky to have the one with Busso engine)

Peugeot might not be something that worth the effort and time. Unless one feels the sentimental value and nostalgia towards the brand.

Syiok sendiri first. Bergaya second.

The only Peugeot with less problems is the 408 with 1.6 turbo. Peugeot striped down most of the problematic electronics and made it basic like an Altis.

The power windows now spot hard plastics rather than rubberised plastics. The dashboard also made from hard plastics. Gearbox is 6 speed Aisin from some Toyota models.

Overall, it is a good car which rivals the Fluence from Renault.

However, the turbo and high pressure pump still need to be monitored from time to time.

some kind of sadist.

https://www.whatcar.com/news/2021-what-car-...ily-suvs/n23403
https://www.whatcar.com/news/2021-what-car-...rge-suvs/n23405
https://www.whatcar.com/news/2021-what-car-...all-suvs/n23402

I've spent weeks researching on this also because I'm also desire to jump on SUV trend. The stats presented above may not be exactly applicable for Malaysian and also they excluded Toyota and Lexus somehow but a few other website and youtube videos also saying similar things, the only conti I dare to go for is BMW or Mini (but you don't buy X1 or Countryman for power also because the 0-100 times are exaggerated. Most of them accomplished with launch control and sport mode so when you are on normal mode, the moment you need to overtake a Proton X50, it is not as easy as it sounds on paper). Right now, I'm leaning on Harrier, CX-5 or Countryman. I'm just going to screw the latest safety driver assist tech because can't have the everything and expect it to be cheap. I might wait a few months more for new X1 to be launched.

This post has been edited by BaboonZ: Dec 27 2021, 12:14 PM

You really help me to make a better decision
A lot of new input from you
So at French market didnt use rubbish ep6 engine?

First of all i like very much tiguan. Superb handly
But uncle car design interior and exterior
Nothing wow factor
After i heard too many problem
I jump to peugeot to choose
But now i need to reconsider plan c
Huhu

Yes this is another great option
But the price quite high
Difficult to choose which variant that suitable for my family

That’s why we had good discussion here
Each person didnt have on par experience
And knowledge.
Personally i learnt a lot here

Yes. I respect your opinion
And sharing your friends experience

Eh.. my aunt bought the 408 1.6T because of nostalgia, her company provided 405 as company car for her many years ago.
But she also end up selling her car and bought a Vios.. cannot tahan the manja of the 408.

My personal experience owning a 508 for 6 years. First 4 years everything is good and all, nothing major. Coming into 5th year, the dreaded depollution error starts popping up.

Back then the warranty was only for 3 years so everything I had to pay out of own pocket. The official SC wasnt competent in solving problems. All they did was throwing parts at it, at my own cost of course

Change all spark plugs, ignition coils, catalytic converter, high pressure fuel pump, etc etc and the problem never got solved.

In the end, found out from another forummer here that it's likely to be caused by carbon buildup. Back then there was no walnut blast service available, so there's not much options

Got the valves cleaned and it was running fine again. So what it means is I paid so much for parts change when all it needed was valve carbon cleaning

But at 5 years age, other problems start creeping up like failing power windows, failing keyless access, failing side mirror motor, failing infotainment system (random reboot or blank screen) etc etc

Im not sure how the parts availability are now, but back then it was horrible. Got into an accident and have to wait 1 month+ for bumper to ship from france.

Failed power window also more or less 1 month wait for parts (first time it failed was 2 years into ownership)

If you put a gun over my head to choose between VW and Peugeot, I will stick to VW. There are more horror stories with Peugeot than VW.
VW ownership experience is either hit or missed, some get pleasant experience while some are nightmares. Where as Peugeot ownership experiences are mostly nightmares.
Tiguan is using the less problematic 6 speed DSG, unlike the problematic 7 speed DSG that I used to have. And Tiguan is using 1.4 or 2.0 single turbo engine, unlike the problematic twincharged that they used in the early Tiguan.
There are more after market parts and workshops that know how to fix VW. I don't know who knows how to fix Peugeot outside of the official workshop
Also there is still a huge following in VW owner group which they are quite active, and they used to organize TT and sepang track day. It is important to have car group to share experiences and most of them are able to share solutions and preventive maintenance.
The reason why there is still a huge VW following is because these cars drive really well and people still want to stick with the brand.

Important thing to own a VW is to understand the preventive maintenance, knowing what part will likely to fail and by when you need to replace them before they breakdown, and have a tow truck number on standby. You aren't a real VW owner if you have not been on a tow truck before.. lol..

This post has been edited by OrangeGrove: Dec 27 2021, 12:38 PM

Not only the French market. The entire European market don't use this crappy engine anymore. Which is why the parts are now only OEM Taiwan or China. No more European made parts. They probably sold this engine to China or Taiwan.

Again the EP6 is to blame. Need to really drive and push the car hard. If always parked at home sure have problems.

Stay away like the plague

For your budget, I would get the pre-reg Tiguan Allspace R-Line.

Nowadays there are more independent peugeot/french specialists out there compared to early 2010's. Notable ones are bros auto and renautech. Before these indies, you can only rely on official SC

Of course if you compared with VW/audi indies, they far outnumber french fries indies

I think peugeot is really trying hard to improve their image/credibility here. My friend who still hold on to his 508 get to extend the warranty to 8 years and he managed to get a new engine too

I also received some calls from peugeot rep 2 years after selling off mine but it's already too late. I'll never get another peugeot

Although now local peugeot dealership has changed hands, I'm not gonna take risks with this brand anymore

Nearly got the 5008 early this yr but guess glad i didnt after reading comments here

PUG lovers love to wait 1 month plus for parts. They wont like it if the parts are easily available. they WANT TO wait 1 month plus....baru siok!

Wife told me she saw this new SUV car damn nice and big from outside & inside. I was sweating after hearing "Peugeot"

Should say the same for Proton owners as well especially the X-series

Owner of 3 Pugs here

Just keep this in mind

1. Make sure you have a 2nd car

2. Make sure you are mentally and emotionally prepared for the huge drop in depreciation when you want to trade in your car.

3. Join any Pug community (fb or forums). Due to my ownership of these cars, I made frens with enthusiasts and mechanics

4. Always ask for 2nd opinion for any major repairs. Those well versed will know how to reduce your repair costs. SC here are sometimes a huge pain.

5. Always do preventive maintenance. Its a decent brand in Europe. The only problem is the currency exchange of the parts. But moving forward, I feel it will be much better now with Stellantis taking over Naza's Gurun production. They are committed to make Msia as the SEA base

6. If you are experienced and brave enough, go for used one. 2 of my prev lions are used (less than half of the original value) and I spent some $$$ (5k ish) to make it reliable for next 5 years.

This post has been edited by toffeemoose: Dec 28 2021, 01:58 AM

Family own VW n Audi n Benz n toyota here,
I cannot speak for peugeot but I can share my ownership of those Conti cars. I would say if you are a car person, willing to find out the problem yourself then go for Conti car. You wan problem free go for Toyota harrier.
My beetle 1.2tsi 2013 still running well till today no major problem. Yes last time the vw after sale really really bad, thankfully those vw shop been closed. Nowadays a lot Conti car specialist out there parts is a lot easier to find compare to last time. I'm still keeping the beetle till today, a fun to drive car. Bought an pre-owned c200 from hapseng in year 2018, the car visit workshop more than the vw. But everything are small matters thankfully certified pre-owned still carry 4 years warranty else sure hv to folk out quite a bit of money to fix those small issues. Then my dad is a Toyota harrier fans, he used to hv the 2nd gen Harrier n now drive the latest gen Harrier. The 2nd gen Harrier like a tank, 12 years of ownership nvr hv any problem.then my elder brother drive an Audi A5. Best car I ever driven.

So still the same, if I wan to drive a European car make sure hv the patient to learn also a 2nd car.

go back to the original meant of a car, it is meant to get you from 1 point to another. Hence, i guess reliability is darn important given the current state of public transport infrastructure.

if you need sort of driving pleasure or excitement once in a while, go rent that car and do whatever you want.

Peugeot: You need passion to own it, as well as passion to visit workshops and passion to wait for spare parts.