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post Dec 24 2021, 07:17 PM, updated 4y ago

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This is the news from Sin Chew Jit Poh

https://www.sinchew.com.my/20211224/%e4%be%...93%b6%e8%a1%8c/


TLDR translation (rough translation)

1. Church wanna give donation to Wah Chai Society
2. Bank in the cheque - bounced back stating the check is TIDAK HALAL
3. Thinking its a joke, the church went to bank in again over the counter - this time with a MP.
4. MP ask why the first time the cheque bounced. The counter staff say the cheque is from a church, hence tidak halal.
5. Manager also come - and said yeah church cheque tidak halal.
6. MP bising sampai mau go bank HQ, then bank U-TURN says they made technical error so now can bank in.
7. Sekian. Maybe it's my turn to kena sus because posting this.

But this halal and haram issue is getting ridiculous. I can't even bring fruits to my son's school gathering because they scared the utensil we use to cut the fruit is tidak halal. Only limited to packet drinks.
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:18 PM

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Illegal cheques sure cannot lar, still need to ask meh 😑
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:20 PM

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Isn't that Maybank? Since when Maybank care about halal or not?
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:20 PM

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Which bank?
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Dec 24 2021, 07:20 PM)
Which bank?
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The newspaper didn't specify, but the giver cheque is from Maybank.

I suspect this bank in question is sotong bank.

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post Dec 24 2021, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(ericangtzeann @ Dec 24 2021, 07:18 PM)
Illegal cheques sure cannot lar, still need to ask meh 😑
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Try to reread the post again. Cheque wasn't accepted because it was deemed not halal as it was from a church.
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(Timber @ Dec 24 2021, 07:22 PM)
The newspaper didn't specify, but the giver cheque is from Maybank.

I suspect this bank in question is sotong bank.
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Never heard of such thing. First time for Malaysia.
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:23 PM

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Wtf not sure not full story, troll, or just stupid
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:23 PM

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Non nons can't handle nons' (now association) money ke?

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post Dec 24 2021, 07:24 PM

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post Dec 24 2021, 07:25 PM

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post Dec 24 2021, 07:28 PM

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Wtf that’s stupid
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:28 PM

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I think is time they come out with halal ewallet it would be a very good biz
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:37 PM

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Wadeheck. Whick bank? If its one of my bank i wont wan to support it anymore. Ridiculous
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:39 PM

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post Dec 24 2021, 07:40 PM

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Must be from cetak tak halal
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:41 PM

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check tidak halal or tidak sah? laugh.gif
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:42 PM

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hahahhahahahahajhahaha
biaselah, as per usual mereisian where got logic wan
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:43 PM

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So if check bounce like this will trigger bad check to the issuer or not?

Don't play play, 12 month 3 bounced cheque will get blacklisted and saving account will be close by bank.

Bank will submit to bnm the issuer issue bad check.

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post Dec 24 2021, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Dec 24 2021, 07:41 PM)
check tidak halal or tidak sah? laugh.gif
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News wrote tidak halal 清真
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Balanced @ Dec 24 2021, 07:37 PM)
Wadeheck. Whick bank? If its one of my bank i wont wan to support it anymore. Ridiculous
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The other topic says its Bank Muamalat Islamic Bank. Not sure why nons go open there.
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:45 PM

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siap ada translation lagi

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post Dec 24 2021, 07:51 PM

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But Genting Cheques are good everywhere.
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post Dec 24 2021, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 24 2021, 07:51 PM)
But Genting Cheques are good everywhere.
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Genting cheque halal because God cannot see you gambling on top of the mountain.
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Seriously, daily knock the head too much on the floor until bodo liao........ 😂
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post Dec 24 2021, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(LamboSama @ Dec 24 2021, 07:20 PM)
Isn't that Maybank? Since when Maybank care about halal or not?
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isn't in the article itself mentioned Bank Muamalat

since when Maybank gone such retard
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QUOTE(azbro @ Dec 24 2021, 07:51 PM)
But Genting Cheques are good everywhere.
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bcoz meow kata halal, then halal lah

inb4 meow kata jangan


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post Dec 24 2021, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Dec 24 2021, 07:52 PM)
Genting cheque halal because God cannot see you gambling on top of the mountain.
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inb4 god have platinum card
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post Dec 24 2021, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(Timber @ Dec 24 2021, 07:17 PM)
This is the news from Sin Chew Jit Poh

https://www.sinchew.com.my/20211224/%e4%be%...93%b6%e8%a1%8c/
TLDR translation (rough translation)

1. Church wanna give donation to Wah Chai Society
2. Bank in the cheque - bounced back stating the check is TIDAK HALAL
3. Thinking its a joke, the church went to bank in again over the counter - this time with a MP.
4. MP ask why the first time the cheque bounced. The counter staff say the cheque is from a church, hence tidak halal.
5. Manager also come - and said yeah church cheque tidak halal.
6. MP bising sampai mau go bank HQ, then bank U-TURN says they made technical error so now can bank in.
7. Sekian. Maybe it's my turn to kena sus because posting this.

But this halal and haram issue is getting ridiculous. I can't even bring fruits to my son's school gathering because they scared the utensil we use to cut the fruit is tidak halal. Only limited to packet drinks.
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Ketahian apa orang Malaysia sekarang ni? Makin hari makin nak jadi Taliban state.

Sial betul.
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post Dec 24 2021, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Timber @ Dec 24 2021, 07:17 PM)
This is the news from Sin Chew Jit Poh

https://www.sinchew.com.my/20211224/%e4%be%...93%b6%e8%a1%8c/
TLDR translation (rough translation)

1. Church wanna give donation to Wah Chai Society
2. Bank in the cheque - bounced back stating the check is TIDAK HALAL
3. Thinking its a joke, the church went to bank in again over the counter - this time with a MP.
4. MP ask why the first time the cheque bounced. The counter staff say the cheque is from a church, hence tidak halal.
5. Manager also come - and said yeah church cheque tidak halal.
6. MP bising sampai mau go bank HQ, then bank U-TURN says they made technical error so now can bank in.
7. Sekian. Maybe it's my turn to kena sus because posting this.

But this halal and haram issue is getting ridiculous. I can't even bring fruits to my son's school gathering because they scared the utensil we use to cut the fruit is tidak halal. Only limited to packet drinks.
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ulama jahat banyak akhir zaman. the downfall alreadu start when there is declining state of science in islamic civilrization
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post Dec 24 2021, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Dec 24 2021, 09:59 PM)
ulama jahat banyak akhir zaman. the downfall alreadu start when there is declining state of science in islamic civilrization
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if bani can say this, it really shows how bad it is
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post Dec 24 2021, 10:32 PM

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Sounds like language issue here. No such thing as not halal cheque lol
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post Dec 24 2021, 10:37 PM

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Looting by Malaysian halal approved by Mydeen. Foreigner looting not halal & make arrest. How about this, What make a money can split halal & not halal. We exchange money & touching non halal everyday also keep quiet only. How about the Covid virus can choose halal or not halal, Those eat pork sneeze can choose people too? Sometimes you can hear nonsense every single day but just laughing at them without thinking about common sense. LOL.
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Bank Islam ke? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ZerOne01 @ Dec 24 2021, 07:23 PM)
Wtf not sure not full story, troll, or just stupid
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Just saw this on Axtro news.
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post Dec 24 2021, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(malleus @ Dec 24 2021, 10:27 PM)
if bani can say this, it really shows how bad it is
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end of times, of course the bad will prevail n the good will doom
Read this https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications...ay-from-science
the birth of antirationalism among muslim
because of this group say because science is cause n effect this, against the concept of god superwill
since that time, science has declining among arab civirlirzation
that group are still exists until now
to the extreem that, learning western knowledge is haram
not knowingly that majority muslim has been poisoned their mindset to extend that using ur brain can leads to astray, when in fact koran ask to use the brain
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should have recorded the conversation then go bank hq can lodge complain..
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post Dec 24 2021, 11:07 PM

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that stupid manager should be sacked

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QUOTE(Timber @ Dec 24 2021, 07:17 PM)
This is the news from Sin Chew Jit Poh

https://www.sinchew.com.my/20211224/%e4%be%...93%b6%e8%a1%8c/
TLDR translation (rough translation)

1. Church wanna give donation to Wah Chai Society
2. Bank in the cheque - bounced back stating the check is TIDAK HALAL
3. Thinking its a joke, the church went to bank in again over the counter - this time with a MP.
4. MP ask why the first time the cheque bounced. The counter staff say the cheque is from a church, hence tidak halal.
5. Manager also come - and said yeah church cheque tidak halal.
6. MP bising sampai mau go bank HQ, then bank U-TURN says they made technical error so now can bank in.
7. Sekian. Maybe it's my turn to kena sus because posting this.

But this halal and haram issue is getting ridiculous. I can't even bring fruits to my son's school gathering because they scared the utensil we use to cut the fruit is tidak halal. Only limited to packet drinks.
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Hapuskan PAS, tidak akan ada masalah ini lagi........
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QUOTE(loon90 @ Dec 24 2021, 07:28 PM)
I think is time they come out with halal ewallet it would be a very good biz
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Easier to songlap.
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post Dec 24 2021, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(rd33 @ Dec 24 2021, 10:32 PM)
Sounds like language issue here. No such thing as not halal cheque lol
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The cheque is halal... But probably the account holder of the cheque is not halal.. According to the interpretation of that branch manager

Well... That's what happen when every single minute thing also need to refer to a scholar for opinion... No longer using their own mind...
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Those on 80s or 90s dont have this kind of halal or haram issue but now semakin macam taliban as if we're going backwards...
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I wonder if they will start testing porcine dna on cash someday.
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post Dec 24 2021, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(bani_prime @ Dec 24 2021, 10:58 PM)
end of times, of course the bad will prevail n the good will doom
Read this https://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications...ay-from-science
the birth of antirationalism among muslim
because of this group say because science is cause n effect this, against the concept of god superwill
since that time, science has declining among arab civirlirzation
that group are still exists until now
to the extreem that, learning western knowledge is haram
not knowingly that majority muslim has been poisoned their mindset to extend that using ur brain can leads to astray, when in fact koran ask to use the brain
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Meanwhile UAE and even Saudis are getting more liberals
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Dec 24 2021, 11:48 PM)
Meanwhile UAE and even Saudis are getting more liberals
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They are trying to recover the true islam practice during prophet time rather than being too 'cultural n tradition islam'
But by doing so, it also gives space for liberal idea to sets in too
There is need for a check n balance

Thats why imam mahdi, a descendent of prophet will come in the future n correct these madness. Islam has already age 1400 years, who can actually point out wheterht the islamic practice todays is as original as prophet time. I would say, all religion will change after time

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Mohd Redza who served as chief executive officer till November 2019 said cheque payments made by any organisation must be honoured unless there are elements of offences under the Anti-Money Laundering Act (AMLA) at hand.

Earlier today, Bank Muamalat Malaysia denied claims that it refused to accept a cheque from a customer here last week because it was "non-halal."

Its head of banking operations Muhamad Radzuan Rahman said the bank initially rejected the cheque as the name of the payee as written was not the same as the one registered in its system.

"Let me make it very clear that there is no such thing as a halal or non-halal cheque. We are a licensed financial institution which provides banking services including cheque clearing and it is our responsibility to accept any cheque," he said

"That particular cheque was initially rejected purely due to a technical reason," added Muhamad Radzuan, adding that the issue was due to a misunderstanding.

He was responding to a statement by Chew who had asked on Friday (Dec 24) if the bank had rejected a cheque for RM1,500 from a religious organisation for Wah Chai Association simply because it was not halal.

Chew had then said a Wah Chai official made the "non-halal" claim to him after the bank rejected the cheque.

"It was then we discovered that the name of the payee on the cheque and in our system did not match. So, we called and asked them to take the cheque back," he said.

"In conclusion, I would like to say that the whole episode was due to a misunderstanding. The bank needs to know the purpose of the cheque and the source.

"So there must have been an issue of how parties interpreted the situation and this was probably how the words 'halal' or 'non-halal' came about.

"Also, we do not know if these were uttered as we were not there," he said.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2021...al-cheque-issue
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post Dec 28 2021, 06:19 PM

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so this sohai Wah Chai official is the one who used the word HALAL and didnt know what it meant and wanna cause huhaaaa

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QUOTE(mousqy @ Dec 28 2021, 06:19 PM)
so this sohai Wah Chai official is the one who used the word HALAL and didnt know what it meant and wanna cause huhaaaa

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I updated because ktards just left it at "cek tak halal".
need to correct the perception.
as explained by the bank TOGETHER WITH THE ONE MAKING NOISE, the payee name does not match. pure technical reason.

 

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