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taiko8148
post Nov 21 2021, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(Chyan @ Nov 21 2021, 02:59 PM)
Cos your diameter is 2%+ bigger. Thus 90KM/h is like 92KM/h. To be safe, reduce it to 88KM/h.
Even tho the diameter in tyre side profile is the same, the overall circumference is increased due to the width.

Hope that helps.
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wow...thanks for the info...didn't know that by only change the 175 to 185 will will increase the diameter of tire...
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post Nov 21 2021, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Nov 21 2021, 12:32 PM)
65 series is like SUV tires so thick.

I would recommend it on Vios car.

Unless you are SUV or MPV.
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Sorry, confused bro
U mean 65 for suv but still recommend for vios?

Sean77
post Nov 21 2021, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Chyan @ Nov 21 2021, 02:59 PM)
Cos your diameter is 2%+ bigger. Thus 90KM/h is like 92KM/h. To be safe, reduce it to 88KM/h.
Even tho the diameter in tyre side profile is the same, the overall circumference is increased due to the width.

Hope that helps.
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QUOTE(kdr93 @ Nov 21 2021, 03:02 PM)
If overall diameter of tyre within 2 or 3% with stick should be fine

The 175/185 is the thread patch width and 55/65 is the wall height ratio , the overall diameter need to calculate.
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Diameter should still be same isnt it?
The change should be the surface area
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post Nov 21 2021, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(Sean77 @ Nov 21 2021, 03:17 PM)
Diameter should still be same isnt it?
The change should be the surface area
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Diameter will be different too.
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post Nov 21 2021, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Nov 21 2021, 10:37 AM)
Might as well go with 195/55R15 as can fit into your stock rim. Lose nothing but gain more in terms of lateral stability, and if choose better tyre choices higher stopping power.

If got for 195/55R15, better choose

BS RE004
Michelin PS3
Hankook VP3

Dun get the mentality of choosing XM2+ coz there are much better choices for the same or lower cost.
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QUOTE(azbro @ Nov 21 2021, 10:47 AM)
Agree!

I was using this (195/55R15) for my Vios.

Many tires to choose from. Best was the PS3, AD07 (I dont think have anymore), F1GSD3 (Rain King but discontinued).

PS3 already very very gooding
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Will ask the shop n see tomorrow
But think penang maybe ps3 that size at least 250 or more, i guess
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post Nov 21 2021, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(LA773 @ Nov 21 2021, 03:42 PM)
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Will ask the shop n see tomorrow
But think penang maybe ps3 that size at least 250 or more, i guess
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Penang Island ? expect at least RM330
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post Nov 21 2021, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(ssmui @ Nov 21 2021, 03:53 PM)
Penang Island ? expect at least RM330
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Ohh fkkk
So much diff!? 😂
Yet klang Valley 220?
Thats Rm100 per donut
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post Nov 21 2021, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Sean77 @ Nov 21 2021, 03:15 PM)
Sorry, confused bro
U mean 65 for suv but still recommend for vios?
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Sorry, wouldn't recommend it.
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post Nov 21 2021, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Sean77 @ Nov 21 2021, 03:17 PM)
Diameter should still be same isnt it?
The change should be the surface area
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Keep in mind that when you go wider, most tires become taller unless you go with a smaller aspect ratio. The aspect ratio of a tire is the middle number in the size. This is a percentage of height based on the width. If you are considering the tire size mentioned previously, the height of the sidewall is 65% as high as the tire is wide. This means that if you want to go wider you should also go to a smaller aspect ratio like 60%. This will assist in making sure that the overall tire diameter remains close to the same. By doing this you refrain from affecting things like speedometer calibrations and transmission shift points.

That's why if there's a change in the specs, be it increase/decrease in width/height/rim size, it always inevitably have to be deducted tp keep it balanced. Thus there won't be much diff if the change is from 175/65/15 (default, comfy/squishy ride) to 185/60/15 (slightly more road feel) or even 195/55/15 (less fuel efficient and but road feel is more planted). See, you increase 1 part, you'll inevitably have to decrease another part.

LA773 Oops. Terhijack your tered. Anyway, 195/55/R15 is always cheaper cos more demand. Forgo a slightly worst fc but better feel. It will decrease 20mm off your car height too. I personally use Goodyear Triplemax 2 because price in EM is also mcm haram like Penang due to logistical charges. Albeit, a good tyre but of cos not PS3 good. That one cost 380/tyre here. shakehead.gif

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post Nov 21 2021, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(Sean77 @ Nov 21 2021, 03:17 PM)
Diameter should still be same isnt it?
The change should be the surface area
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No bro, the 55/65 is the aspect ratio, as in thats 55percent or 65 percent of the width of the thread of the tyre.

So even is the width the same ie 185, then the 65 profile tyre will be "thicker" wall then 55.

Your diameter is calculated from radius of rim size plus this tyre "thickness".

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post Nov 21 2021, 04:34 PM

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god car tyre cannot wear out
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post Nov 21 2021, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(speedy3210 @ Nov 21 2021, 10:37 AM)
Might as well go with 195/55R15 as can fit into your stock rim. Lose nothing but gain more in terms of lateral stability, and if choose better tyre choices higher stopping power.

If got for 195/55R15, better choose

BS RE004
Michelin PS3
Hankook VP3

Dun get the mentality of choosing XM2+ coz there are much better choices for the same or lower cost.
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post Nov 21 2021, 04:46 PM

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PS3 what year discontinued? Still got stock?
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post Nov 21 2021, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 21 2021, 03:14 PM)
i only use yokohama bluearth ES32
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drive in rain ok ke bro?
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QUOTE(taiko8148 @ Nov 21 2021, 03:14 PM)
wow...thanks for the info...didn't know that by only change the 175 to 185 will will increase the diameter of tire...
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change la...that's why i said if 175/65/15 change to 185/60/15 you are good to go.
but you changed to 185/65/15, so got difference, your speedometer, mileage, and on display fuel/distance no longer accurate.
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post Nov 21 2021, 05:10 PM

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hi guys,
xm2+ vs Michelin PS4 vs Conti MC6

which 1 better for 215/55 R16
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post Nov 21 2021, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(sle7in @ Nov 21 2021, 04:46 PM)
PS3 what year discontinued? Still got stock?
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Not discontinued, but reassigned to cover/target smaller size premium, high performance market.

PS4 cover 16in and above (many sizes)

PS3 cover 15in (only a few sizes)
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post Nov 21 2021, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Nov 21 2021, 05:10 PM)
hi guys,
xm2+ vs Michelin PS4 vs Conti MC6

which 1 better for 215/55 R16
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Ofcourse ps4 is the best

But 215/55/16 is a very rare size i doubt can easily find tyres of that size
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post Nov 21 2021, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Nov 21 2021, 05:10 PM)
hi guys,
xm2+ vs Michelin PS4 vs Conti MC6

which 1 better for 215/55 R16
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Of course PS4 lah...but price is yahudi.....around RM400/ea

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post Nov 21 2021, 05:18 PM

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XM2+ is a budget tire that is very decent and last long (my XM2 lasted me almost 4 years before a change was required - mainly due to cracking but thread depth was still good)

CC6 is a soft comfort tyre, but drive 60 during rain. the only tire that so far has managed to make my ESC light to blink during stop and go traffic

PS3 is an amazing tyre, at the cost of faster thread wear and potentially noisier

My personal vote goes to XM2+ for my own car at least
~200 for 4 years is too well worth

Note: I rotate tyres often and drive slow, if you're a more performance driver, then definitely PS3/4. If 99% jam/grab, take XM2/2+ could be better as the threads will last longer

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