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post Nov 1 2021, 02:47 PM, updated 5y ago

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Anyone here own a Toyota Sienta?

How's the car holding up? Worth buying 2nd hand?
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post Nov 1 2021, 02:48 PM

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Practical like Honda freed. But I hardly see a lot of them today compared to 6 years ago.
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Mpv to angkat brg for biz or personal family use?
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post Nov 1 2021, 02:51 PM

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there isn't a lot of it on the road right now
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post Nov 1 2021, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 1 2021, 03:51 PM)
there isn't a lot of it on the road right now
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Coz its....




Ugly? biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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post Nov 1 2021, 02:55 PM

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good to move things and people around urban area, 2nd hand value holds up really well...practical with T badge.
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A friend of mine sold his Hyundai Matrix for a Sienta.

Best decision ever according to him.

Personally tho, i'd go for the Mazda Biante if i'm in the market for a small MPV.

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Sienta stop selling in malaysia officially liawww....

now maybe thru grey imports or 2nd hand car dealer only.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 1 2021, 02:54 PM)
Coz its....
Ugly? biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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not sure

years back, sienta is actually more than toyota camry
that time i barely even see anyone bought the new camry

right now i saw more camry than sienta(although both also rare)
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QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Nov 1 2021, 03:56 PM)
A friend of mine sold his Hyundai Matrix for a Sienta.

Best decision ever according to him.

Personally tho, i'd go for the Mazda Biante if i'm in the market for a small MPV.
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Biante harge bape bos. Mahal kot.

140-160k rite?
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post Nov 1 2021, 02:58 PM

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its a cold car laugh.gif
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:00 PM

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Alza size, sliding door, nice folding seat. More 30k thab Alza. U want?
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:04 PM

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inside got too much hard plastic. also not enough cubby holes, similar to vios during it's time
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:05 PM

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practical and affordable 6 seater

but dont expect anything other than practical

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post Nov 1 2021, 03:06 PM

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sienta is a cheaper version of alphard. macam abang adik vios with altis.
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I was surprised when I sat in one last time (Grabcar) that I can forgive it's looks
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 1 2021, 02:54 PM)
Coz its....
Ugly? biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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Dey

It look 'special' lah







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post Nov 1 2021, 03:13 PM

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rare car .

hope can find spare parts.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Nov 1 2021, 04:12 PM)
Dey

It look 'special' lah
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:14 PM

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the 3rd row surprisingly quite sittable
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 1 2021, 03:06 PM)
sienta is a cheaper version of alphard. macam abang adik vios with altis.
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Not really, alphard/vellfire < estima < noah/nav1/voxy < sienta

This one haven't include truck chassis rush/innova/avanza
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post Nov 1 2021, 03:18 PM

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Headroom maciem no enough.
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 1 2021, 04:16 PM)
Not really, alphard/vellfire < estima < noah/nav1/voxy < sienta

This one haven't include truck chassis rush/innova/avanza
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post Nov 1 2021, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Nov 1 2021, 03:16 PM)
Not really, alphard/vellfire < estima < noah/nav1/voxy < sienta

This one haven't include truck chassis rush/innova/avanza
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estima not sliding door mah.
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for its price. very good. but ugly la.
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post Nov 1 2021, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 1 2021, 04:05 PM)
estima not sliding door mah.
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Estima slide lah
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post Nov 1 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 1 2021, 03:06 PM)
sienta is a cheaper version of alphard. macam abang adik vios with altis.
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Normally I heard Innova is cheaper version of alphard. so called poor man alphard..
https://www.wapcar.my/news/poor-mans-alphar...-malaysia-21106
https://www.bangkokpost.com/auto/news/11462...or-mans-alphard

If Sienta cheaper abang adik alphard. Then Innova is what? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Nov 1 2021, 02:48 PM)
Practical like Honda freed. But I hardly see a lot of them today compared to 6 years ago.
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Never saw lots of Honda Freeds either.

Wonder where have they all gone to?

QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 1 2021, 02:49 PM)
Mpv to angkat brg for biz or personal family use?
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It's "angkat brg for biz" but the "brg" are persons that uses wheelchairs.

Thinking of buying one to remove the rear seats to fit a side and rear access wheelchair ramps.

QUOTE(Mr Mercedes @ Nov 1 2021, 02:56 PM)
A friend of mine sold his Hyundai Matrix for a Sienta.

Best decision ever according to him.

Personally tho, i'd go for the Mazda Biante if i'm in the market for a small MPV.
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Biante pricing in a different bracket.

I can't blame your friend for thinking the Sienta is better than the Matrix. smile.gif

QUOTE(ycs @ Nov 1 2021, 02:58 PM)
its a cold car laugh.gif
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Wonder why? Toyotas rarely ever make it to the cold door car list.


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post Nov 1 2021, 04:49 PM

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post Nov 1 2021, 04:49 PM

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If cos it's still good.


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post Nov 1 2021, 04:51 PM

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was supposed to compete with BRV especially with the sliding doors but somehow lost badly
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Nov 1 2021, 03:11 PM)
I was surprised when I sat in one last time (Grabcar) that I can forgive it's looks
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seriously? so comfy? i'm actually hunting for a 6/7 seater currently but i want something cheap most likely 2nd hand. was eyeing on kia sorento 2015 before they facelift..

really worry 1.5l couldn't bring me far. haha
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good for driver
bad for 2nd row , 3rd row still okay
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 1 2021, 04:51 PM)
seriously? so comfy? i'm actually hunting for a 6/7 seater currently but i want something cheap most likely 2nd hand. was eyeing on kia sorento 2015 before they facelift..

really worry 1.5l couldn't bring me far. haha
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dont expect that 1.5 will bring u any sense of power sweat.gif sweat.gif
1 driver with no passenger this car can only do 14 sec 0-100
imagine with 5 passenger, brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 1 2021, 03:00 PM)
Alza size, sliding door, nice folding seat. More 30k thab Alza. U want?
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The sliding side doors and the lower ride height makes it an excellent chassis for installing wheelchair ramps and it's compact size makes it much easier to drive around urban areas especially to any of the public hospitals.

QUOTE(slaveone @ Nov 1 2021, 03:04 PM)
inside got too much hard plastic. also not enough cubby holes, similar to vios during it's time
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Yes, that's true but that goes for most sub-RM100k cars.

QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 1 2021, 03:06 PM)
sienta is a cheaper version of alphard. macam abang adik vios with altis.
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The real "adik" to the Alphard is a Noah.


QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Nov 1 2021, 03:11 PM)
I was surprised when I sat in one last time (Grabcar) that I can forgive it's looks
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You won't by any chance recall if it had a good ride quality?

QUOTE(ikankering @ Nov 1 2021, 03:13 PM)
rare car .

hope can find spare parts.
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Toyota parts bin car.
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Was in my consideration, but finally decide to purchase Yaris instead.. my .02
Pros:
1. Quality is japan-like. (Manufactured in Indonesia though, but fit and finish is high quality compare to 3rd world Vios/Yaris)
2. Ride height and size is very practical. Like the folding seats very much. 3rd row feels a bit like deathtrap though.. too near to rear windscreen.
3. Engine is small, but good torque at low rpm - I am using this engine in yaris too btw. Don't demand too much and it's not too bad.
Cons:
1. Lots of wind noise at speed, if compare with Yaris.
2. Deal-breaker for me, Toyota Malaysia discontinued it in 2019. Not many on the road which means spare parts might be hard to find. Engine is the same as current gen Yaris /Vios , 2NR-FE iinm.
3. Car is heavy for its size due to the power door, fuel consumption will be higher than what you thought - think 10km/l city driving, similar to Serena/innova/exora class MPV. Cannot compare to Alza.

I think can get around 68k for 2018 model when I am seriously considering it back in 2020. Now should be 60k-ish I think..


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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 1 2021, 05:00 PM)
The sliding side doors and the lower ride height makes it an excellent chassis for installing wheelchair ramps and it's compact size makes it much easier to drive around urban areas especially to any of the public hospitals.
Yes, that's true but that goes for most sub-RM100k cars.
The real "adik" to the Alphard is a Noah.
You won't by any chance recall if it had a good ride quality?
Toyota parts bin car.
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Since Sienta kenot find liao, must as well go for Seken hand Nissan Serena or Mazda Biante around 60 to 70K.
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QUOTE(kons @ Nov 1 2021, 04:49 PM)
just booked corolla cross...  fell in love with compact suv after driving x50
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Hybrid?
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QUOTE(heihei @ Nov 1 2021, 04:58 PM)
dont expect that 1.5 will bring u any sense of power  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
1 driver with no passenger this car can only do 14 sec 0-100
imagine with 5 passenger,  brows.gif  brows.gif
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5 for me... me, wife, sis, mum and newborn. haha. that's why looking at the old kia sorento at least 2.4.

Trying to find something budget don't want to do any installment anymore.. want to buy outright 60-70k.. Exora also in my list actually.

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 1 2021, 05:03 PM)
Since Sienta kenot find liao, must as well go for Seken hand Nissan Serena or Mazda Biante around 60 to 70K.
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never thought of biante.. let me look into it but like good suggestion.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 1 2021, 04:51 PM)
seriously? so comfy? i'm actually hunting for a 6/7 seater currently but i want something cheap most likely 2nd hand. was eyeing on kia sorento 2015 before they facelift..

really worry 1.5l couldn't bring me far. haha
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naza ria convert toyota engine under 15k cheap cheap weekend car
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QUOTE(mashed-potato @ Nov 1 2021, 05:10 PM)
naza ria convert toyota engine under 15k cheap cheap weekend car
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but that's a very old 7 seater right? haha don't need to go down until that budget la.. something around RM60-70k still affordable in my books.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 1 2021, 04:51 PM)
seriously? so comfy? i'm actually hunting for a 6/7 seater currently but i want something cheap most likely 2nd hand. was eyeing on kia sorento 2015 before they facelift..

really worry 1.5l couldn't bring me far. haha
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I wouldn't touch that one with a 100ft bargepole.

2.4l engine is prone to conrod and bearing failures right around 120k, engine replacement is upwards of RM12k and that's if you can find a donor engine block.

The only Sorento worth buying is the UM series, in Malaysia it would be 2016 onwards and make sure it's powered by that 2.2d engine. It was mind blowing a car that didn't cost RM200k had such good performance.
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Nov 1 2021, 02:48 PM)
Practical like Honda freed. But I hardly see a lot of them today compared to 6 years ago.
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Nov 1 2021, 02:51 PM)
there isn't a lot of it on the road right now
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no more selling in Malaysia all kind of small panssanger Van not doing well in Malaysia
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Ts is not in prc?
Buy geely instead.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 1 2021, 05:08 PM)
never thought of biante.. let me look into it but like good suggestion.
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The only thing i don't like biante is the seats can't fold like serena.

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T badge car, practical and min maintenance.

However, it has a look that, either you like it, or dont.
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 1 2021, 03:06 PM)
sienta is a cheaper version of alphard. macam abang adik vios with altis.
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Voxy is adik to Alphard

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RV > all

msia buy car cos of RV...
still need to ask this question?

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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 1 2021, 05:19 PM)
The only thing i don't like biante is the seats can't fold like serena.

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Any idea if that 3rd row seat could be completely removed?


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Toyota picnic or toyota ipsum i can vouch ok. If yoyota avensis verso lagi ok. You can take out all the seats yourself
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QUOTE(Bendot @ Nov 1 2021, 06:30 PM)
Toyota picnic or toyota ipsum i can vouch ok. If yoyota avensis verso lagi ok. You can take out all the seats yourself
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Avensis Verso is an EU/GB model only isn't it? Was it available in Malaysia?
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wow very rich guy who owned multiple business and 11 properties under his name is looking for second hand toyota sienta.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 1 2021, 06:28 PM)
Any idea if that 3rd row seat could be completely removed?
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Not sure on this.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 1 2021, 06:34 PM)
Avensis Verso is an EU/GB model only isn't it? Was it available in Malaysia?
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No, it's not suppose to be sold in Malaysia. Size wise, performance and reliability of the model had been very good.

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 1 2021, 05:13 PM)
I wouldn't touch that one with a 100ft bargepole.

2.4l engine is prone to conrod and bearing failures right around 120k, engine replacement is upwards of RM12k and that's if you can find a donor engine block.

The only Sorento worth buying is the UM series, in Malaysia it would be 2016 onwards and make sure it's powered by that 2.2d engine. It was mind blowing a car that didn't cost RM200k had such good performance.
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i thought the 2.4l is a good engine no? its one of those which dont give u probs. i cant get a diesel my petrol card would not cover diesel hahabaa.
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 1 2021, 05:19 PM)
The only thing i don't like biante is the seats can't fold like serena.

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saw in pauline tan... can fully fold down as well. cant use as a camper haha but below the seat can put crap.
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 1 2021, 02:49 PM)
Mpv to angkat brg for biz or personal family use?
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strange and rare kind of mini mpv thing.. even stranger are the 2" didis who drive them as if they have any chance vs king. Its an ffing roti car la sohai.

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 1 2021, 04:51 PM)
seriously? so comfy? i'm actually hunting for a 6/7 seater currently but i want something cheap most likely 2nd hand. was eyeing on kia sorento 2015 before they facelift..

really worry 1.5l couldn't bring me far. haha
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Why not go for Xpander? Still below RM100k.

I tested that car and liked almost everything except 2 air bags.
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Ride this before Grabcar Singapore, the ride is comfortable and quite cabin.

But Toyota voxy is mileee better la.
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QUOTE(Vervain @ Nov 1 2021, 07:06 AM)
sienta is a cheaper version of alphard. macam abang adik vios with altis.
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Far from it

The true little alphard is voxy

Very rare
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 1 2021, 06:28 PM)
Any idea if that 3rd row seat could be completely removed?
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QUOTE(kcchong2000 @ Nov 1 2021, 07:05 PM)
Not sure on this.
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Sure it can.
Seats are just bolt mounted.
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why not HIACE 2.7 FACELIFT WINDOW VAN 11 SEATERS? brows.gif
I drove one of these (manual) up Batu Feringgi before. Very nice short shift. JDM unit with japanese player etc.
2015 one about 70k or so.

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Nov 2 2021, 01:24 AM)
Why not go for Xpander? Still below RM100k.

I tested that car and liked almost everything except 2 air bags.
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For that price, ask them fly kite. And I rather take Aruz or BRV. Mitsubishi is winning on handling and space design among these 3, but topkek almost 100k price.

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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Nov 2 2021, 01:24 AM)
Why not go for Xpander? Still below RM100k.

I tested that car and liked almost everything except 2 air bags.
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the 4at will make u cry if u travel on kampung road with family onboard whistling.gif
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Nov 2 2021, 01:24 AM)
Why not go for Xpander? Still below RM100k.

I tested that car and liked almost everything except 2 air bags.
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trying to keep it within a budget of RM60-70k.. if RM100k will need to take out a loan for a ride again. Trying to avoid taking a loan at this moment cause next year will be buying a bigger place as well. avoiding loan.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 1 2021, 06:28 PM)
Any idea if that 3rd row seat could be completely removed?
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That back is a huge space, can put in a Honda EX5 together with other balik kampong barang!
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 2 2021, 08:46 AM)
trying to keep it within a budget of RM60-70k.. if RM100k will need to take out a loan for a ride again. Trying to avoid taking a loan at this moment cause next year will be buying a bigger place as well. avoiding loan.
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just go for alza

the downside is the current version safety feature is topkek

however if you are driving below 100kmh with care you will be fine
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the 4at will make u cry if u travel on kampung road with family onboard  whistling.gif
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Well, I seen people going up to Genting lately with family onboard, no issues. It isn't fast but decent.

QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 2 2021, 08:46 AM)
trying to keep it within a budget of RM60-70k.. if RM100k will need to take out a loan for a ride again. Trying to avoid taking a loan at this moment cause next year will be buying a bigger place as well. avoiding loan.
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Alza is due for a refresh, but it's probably next year
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try both sienta and ertiga years back
end up bought ertiga, because of price
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Sienta smaller version of wish, quite crampy but good to use as daily car still

Voxy Noah smaller version of Velfire

i m looking for 7 seater also

Now eyeing Serena (top up not abit). but discount not much also even year end

but seems next year many cars coming ler BRV, X90, Avanza, plenty of choices

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looking at freed and sienta kinda reminds me of the old boxy renault kangoo

anyway, never owned a sienta and never drove 1. however, i did managed to have a look at the car when went in for a car service at Toyota SC a few years back. Seat folding mechanism is just mind blowing. Interior-wise, didn't really like it.
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If deisgn not funky,shd b can sell well
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nissan serena ok
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this car good for small family, sliding door is the selling point for this car. If kids grow bigger, then should got for Nissan which value for money.
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https://www.wapcar.my/used-cars/toyota/sien...-sienta-v-1.5-3

Price can buy new Exora/Alza..
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Alza with extended body and sliding doors,
Cheap option compared to voxy
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let be frank this car is cute and good for 4 passenger only. The rear seat last row.... u need to be a kid to sit in there. and sitting side by side max is 2 ppl + 1 kid. else will feel so tight.
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QUOTE(heihei @ Nov 2 2021, 03:22 AM)
the 4at will make u cry if u travel on kampung road with family onboard  whistling.gif
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How fast u wanna to with family on board lol
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QUOTE(AyamBlend @ Nov 2 2021, 11:57 AM)
How fast u wanna to with family on board lol
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whistling.gif
maybe u never followed behind a slow lorry ??
where u need pulling power n that sloppy 1.5 and 4at couldn't provide ??
is not about how fast u travel, is the power to accelerate laugh.gif
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QUOTE(FlamingFox @ Nov 2 2021, 09:38 AM)
Well, I seen people going up to Genting lately with family onboard, no issues. It isn't fast but decent.
Alza is due for a refresh, but it's probably next year
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genting = multiple lane

kampung road= 1 lane each way
try to overtake slow car will be a painful experience
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Weight 1.3 tonnes like the Aruz. Will surely feel underpowered and fuel consumption quite high.
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QUOTE(Csgopro123 @ Nov 2 2021, 02:14 PM)
At the same price why not go for Toyota rush or aruz. Easily better specs and bigger size.
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better spec maybe
better refinement ? Nope
better space? Nope , aruz n rush is kecik
better NVh ? nope
better Handling ? lagi Nope
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You cant go wrong with any Toyota car. It will be reliable and cheap to run.
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just wait wait and see see
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QUOTE(heihei @ Nov 2 2021, 02:05 PM)
whistling.gif
maybe u never followed behind a slow lorry ??
where u need pulling power n that sloppy 1.5 and 4at couldn't provide ??
is not about how fast u travel, is the power to accelerate  laugh.gif
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i had avanza
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yes.. struggling, but still manageable la. dont so exaggerated .. lol
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i had avanza
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yes.. struggling, but still manageable la. dont so exaggerated .. lol
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i see , u would love to let your whole family facing the dangerous oncoming vehicle altogether while the car provide poor acceleration whistling.gif
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It's ugly, Better get freed,
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For the price it is kinda small. Better take used Alza, more spareparts
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you are mostly buying because you want the rear sliding doors on both side.

other within similar dimensions.... do not have that...which makes elderly going in/out easier, similar to accessing rear.

but that price already now have Serena and Biante having similar features...
I know Honda Freed has this, but their centre of gravity design is just poor...going through corners...with small wheels and factory suspension.


so, I wouldn't buy Sienta for the slightly better , but consider other in the market...
Nissan Serena s-Hybrid is good in my book of the lot , but it is also a 2.0 vs Sienta 1.5.

so, goes down to budget...service cost... new/used ....





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QUOTE(heihei @ Nov 2 2021, 04:56 PM)
i see , u would love to let your whole family facing the dangerous oncoming vehicle altogether while the car provide poor acceleration  whistling.gif
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then jut follow the slow vehicle for the right time to pass biggrin.gif
Biar lambat asal selamat

If you know your car well you wont even try to do stupid things like simply cut out and face oncoming vehicles.

Dont act like rempit always cannot brake or always need to maintain high speed else something wrong

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QUOTE(heihei @ Nov 2 2021, 02:06 PM)
genting = multiple lane

kampung road= 1 lane each way
try to overtake slow car will be a painful experience
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You have to know your car's capability well enough if you want to overtake other vehicles. And if it's dangerous, you just don't.

Don't drive recklessly like this 1.5l 7 seater car.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/11473709991...41389303038931/

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 1 2021, 08:36 PM)
i thought the 2.4l is a good engine no? its one of those which dont give u probs. i cant get a diesel my petrol card would not cover diesel hahabaa.


trying to keep it within a budget of RM60-70k.. if RM100k will need to take out a loan for a ride again. Trying to avoid taking a loan at this moment cause next year will be buying a bigger place as well. avoiding loan.
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The 2.4l is prone to engine bearing and conrod failures in the Sorento. In fact every petrol engine in the Sorento are prone to failures regardless whether it is the GDI version or not. If you follow groups on Sorentos you'll know it isn't quite a bed of roses unless it's the diesel or the V6 variants.

I suggest you buy something else and avoid petrol powered Sorentos until there is a recall on that engine in Malaysia as it has been recalled many times in US for engine fires as well.

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Nov 2 2021, 02:24 AM)
why not HIACE 2.7 FACELIFT WINDOW VAN 11 SEATERS? brows.gif
I drove one of these (manual) up Batu Feringgi before. Very nice short shift. JDM unit with japanese player etc.
2015 one about 70k or so.
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The purpose of this vehicle is to have a smaller and less cumbersome vehicle to transport persons in a wheelchair. Currently done by a Renault Kangoo, a Citroen Berlingo and Fiat Doblo. All of these vehicles are regular passenger car sized, low floor and have sliding doors on the side which made them ideal for a wheelchair ramp.

Currently the Doblo has 600k on it and is becoming a pain to maintain due to lack of parts.
The Kangoo has 400k on it and would need a new engine soon.
The Berlingo has 450k on it and will need maintenance and repairs done to it that would exceed its value.

Planning to replace all 3 of them with something newer and easier to maintain without breaking the bank account.

That Hiace is a bit too big as sometimes these vehicles go to hospitals, especially public hospitals that's an impossibility to find parking nearby and disabled parking lots are often either abused or occupied.



QUOTE(DarkNite @ Nov 2 2021, 08:57 AM)
That back is a huge space, can put in a Honda EX5 together with other balik kampong barang!
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Interesting, it doesn't appear to be that big from the pictures.

QUOTE(frequency @ Nov 2 2021, 10:17 AM)
Sienta smaller version of wish, quite crampy but good to use as daily car still

Voxy Noah smaller version of Velfire

i m looking for 7 seater also

Now eyeing Serena (top up not abit). but discount not much also even year end

but seems next year many cars coming ler BRV, X90, Avanza, plenty of choices
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Really? Thought usually Nissan year end is the time they'd throw price and give overtrade allowances. They've stopped that practice recently?

7 seater SUVs and midi-MPVs like the Avanza aren't comfortable as 7 seaters unless the +2 seats are occupied by pre-teen children. Also many of them when you use those seats then you lose a significant amount of cargo room.

QUOTE(maprocks @ Nov 2 2021, 10:39 AM)
looking at freed and sienta kinda reminds me of the old boxy renault kangoo

anyway, never owned a sienta and never drove 1. however, i did managed to have a look at the car when went in for a car service at Toyota SC a few years back. Seat folding mechanism is just mind blowing. Interior-wise, didn't really like it.
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I would love to buy another Kangoo, a true workhorse but too bad it isn't being sold any longer and used ones are quite tired examples now. Also later ones were only sold as panel vans.

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QUOTE(Csgopro123 @ Nov 2 2021, 02:14 PM)
At the same price why not go for Toyota rush or aruz. Easily better specs and bigger size.
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That's definitely true but both of those lack the sliding doors.

QUOTE(pg84 @ Nov 2 2021, 05:17 PM)
It's ugly, Better get freed,
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The Freed is a good one too but newest ones would be more than 5 years old.


QUOTE(Heroicage @ Nov 2 2021, 05:20 PM)
you are mostly buying because you want the rear sliding doors on both side.

other within similar dimensions.... do not have that...which makes elderly going in/out easier, similar to accessing rear.

but that price already now have Serena and Biante having similar features...
I know Honda Freed has this, but their centre of gravity design is just poor...going through corners...with small wheels and factory suspension.
so, I wouldn't buy Sienta for the slightly better , but consider other in the market...
Nissan Serena s-Hybrid is good in my book of the lot , but it is also a 2.0 vs Sienta 1.5.

so, goes down to budget...service cost... new/used ....
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Definitely buying it for the sliding doors and also lower floor height.

Not too keen on the Serena due to the Jatco CVT and not too keen on that hybrid system.
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The 2.4l is prone to engine bearing and conrod failures in the Sorento. In fact every petrol engine in the Sorento are prone to failures regardless whether it is the GDI version or not. If you follow groups on Sorentos you'll know it isn't quite a bed of roses unless it's the diesel or the V6 variants.

I suggest you buy something else and avoid petrol powered Sorentos until there is a recall on that engine in Malaysia as it has been recalled many times in US for engine fires as well.
The purpose of this vehicle is to have a smaller and less cumbersome vehicle to transport persons in a wheelchair. Currently done by a Renault Kangoo, a Citroen Berlingo and Fiat Doblo. All of these vehicles are regular passenger car sized, low floor and have sliding doors on the side which made them ideal for a wheelchair ramp.

Currently the Doblo has 600k on it and is becoming a pain to maintain due to lack of parts.
The Kangoo has 400k on it and would need a new engine soon. 
The Berlingo has 450k on it and will need maintenance and repairs done to it that would exceed its value. 

Planning to replace all 3 of them with something newer and easier to maintain without breaking the bank account.

That Hiace is a bit too big as sometimes these vehicles go to hospitals, especially public hospitals that's an impossibility to find parking nearby and disabled parking lots are often either abused or occupied.
Interesting, it doesn't appear to be that big from the pictures.
Really? Thought usually Nissan year end is the time they'd throw price and give overtrade allowances. They've stopped that practice recently?

7 seater SUVs and midi-MPVs like the Avanza aren't comfortable as 7 seaters unless the +2 seats are occupied by pre-teen children. Also many of them when you use those seats then you lose a significant amount of cargo room.
I would love to buy another Kangoo, a true workhorse but too bad it isn't being sold any longer and used ones are quite tired examples now. Also later ones were only sold as panel vans.
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seem like u know what u need n want.
+ T brand is stand for reliable so, what u worry now ? no others brand can provide this within this prices range ...
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Kind of hate TCM marketing and package strategy, just like buy 1 burger free 1 burger at 2 burger price rclxub.gif

Currently year end promotion for Serena (For non premium)

140,226 - (discount) + insurance

Discount 5k + 3 year or 100km warranty + 3 year 60,000km service package

Discount 7k + 3 year or 100km warranty

Discount 5k + 5 year warranty

Discount 3k + 5 year warrant + 3 year 60,000km service package

Trade in any car with 5k extra rebate/cashback -> I m thinking wana push one besi buruk Kia Citra to them or not

Agent said non-year end season will get less 2k discount, but based on my research, they discount all year round one, tipu one

Currently have 2 kid, avanza may fit my requirement but occasionally fetch 1 more adult, it is tough to put the baby car seat x2 and i m type person not keen to change car like change shirt, so probably straight get a bigger one drive at least 10 year

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 3 2021, 12:18 AM)
The 2.4l is prone to engine bearing and conrod failures in the Sorento. In fact every petrol engine in the Sorento are prone to failures regardless whether it is the GDI version or not. If you follow groups on Sorentos you'll know it isn't quite a bed of roses unless it's the diesel or the V6 variants.

I suggest you buy something else and avoid petrol powered Sorentos until there is a recall on that engine in Malaysia as it has been recalled many times in US for engine fires as well.
The purpose of this vehicle is to have a smaller and less cumbersome vehicle to transport persons in a wheelchair. Currently done by a Renault Kangoo, a Citroen Berlingo and Fiat Doblo. All of these vehicles are regular passenger car sized, low floor and have sliding doors on the side which made them ideal for a wheelchair ramp.

Currently the Doblo has 600k on it and is becoming a pain to maintain due to lack of parts.
The Kangoo has 400k on it and would need a new engine soon. 
The Berlingo has 450k on it and will need maintenance and repairs done to it that would exceed its value. 

Planning to replace all 3 of them with something newer and easier to maintain without breaking the bank account.

That Hiace is a bit too big as sometimes these vehicles go to hospitals, especially public hospitals that's an impossibility to find parking nearby and disabled parking lots are often either abused or occupied.
Interesting, it doesn't appear to be that big from the pictures.
Really? Thought usually Nissan year end is the time they'd throw price and give overtrade allowances. They've stopped that practice recently?

7 seater SUVs and midi-MPVs like the Avanza aren't comfortable as 7 seaters unless the +2 seats are occupied by pre-teen children. Also many of them when you use those seats then you lose a significant amount of cargo room.
I would love to buy another Kangoo, a true workhorse but too bad it isn't being sold any longer and used ones are quite tired examples now. Also later ones were only sold as panel vans.
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thanks man lucky i lurk around and ask around.. in this case i think I'll just settle with exora
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QUOTE(X1X1 @ Nov 3 2021, 01:09 AM)
seem like u know what u need n want.
+ T brand is stand for reliable so, what u worry now ? no others brand can provide this within this prices range ...
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I'm interested to know if there's any hidden issues with this car as surprisingly for a Toyota it didn't sell in big numbers.


QUOTE(frequency @ Nov 3 2021, 01:15 AM)
Kind of hate TCM marketing and package strategy, just like buy 1 burger free 1 burger at 2 burger price  rclxub.gif

Currently year end promotion for Serena (For non premium)

140,226  - (discount) + insurance

Discount 5k + 3 year or 100km warranty + 3 year 60,000km service package

Discount 7k + 3 year or 100km warranty

Discount 5k + 5 year warranty

Discount 3k + 5 year warrant + 3 year 60,000km service package

Trade in any car with 5k extra rebate/cashback -> I m thinking wana push one besi buruk Kia Citra to them or not

Agent said non-year end season will get less 2k discount, but based on my research, they discount all year round one, tipu one

Currently have 2 kid, avanza may fit my requirement but occasionally fetch 1 more adult, it is tough to put the baby car seat x2 and i m type person not keen to change car like change shirt, so probably straight get a bigger one drive at least 10 year
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Not that attractive a deal also.

In fact crazy to buy a hybrid with such a short warranty unless there's a separate battery warranty.

QUOTE(kidmad @ Nov 3 2021, 02:02 AM)
thanks man lucky i lurk around and ask around.. in this case i think I'll just settle with exora
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I'd probably wait till the Exora is replaced with that one designed by Geely.

No point buying an Exora as its just too antiquated a vehicle and in this day and age there's 0 reasons to buy a car that has as many niggling faults to it.

QUOTE(Csgopro123 @ Nov 3 2021, 04:27 AM)
A lot of u guys keep saying fugly ..

But. TS is coming from Renault kangoo..... Nuff said
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The Kangoo is a good work horse. It's a surprise that it has held up this long as the one we use is now 17 years old.

QUOTE(Csgopro123 @ Nov 3 2021, 04:28 AM)
TS open nursing home ah
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7 of them to be exact.
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 3 2021, 04:52 AM)
I'm interested to know if there's any hidden issues with this car as surprisingly for a Toyota it didn't sell in big numbers.
Not that attractive a deal also.

In fact crazy to buy a hybrid with such a short warranty unless there's a separate battery warranty.
I'd probably wait till the Exora is replaced with that one designed by Geely.

No point buying an Exora as its just too antiquated a vehicle and in this day and age there's 0 reasons to buy a car that has as many niggling faults to it.
The Kangoo is a good work horse. It's a surprise that it has held up this long as the one we use is now 17 years old.
7 of them to be exact.
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Serena is not a true hybrid car.
By right it should not use the word 'hybrid'
It only uses a bigger lorry battery to keep the rest of electronics running during stoppages when the petrol engine is cut off.
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I'm interested to know if there's any hidden issues with this car as surprisingly for a Toyota it didn't sell in big numbers.
Not that attractive a deal also.


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Malaysia buyer attitude, for small car with high prices tag (90k-100k).
Small family will choose Alza with half prices.
Some prefer top up for Serena.
Hipster will go for Wish/Stream/alphard.

btw Malaysian not really in to MPV, especially small MPV with no status but expensive prices tags.

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Nov 3 2021, 05:39 AM)
Serena is not a true hybrid car.
By right it should not use the word 'hybrid'
It only uses a bigger lorry battery to keep the rest of electronics running during stoppages when the petrol engine is cut off.
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I am shopping for mini-mpv, after test drive, sitting at the back, and price, here is my conclusion:

1) Nissan Serena Hybrid
Spacious
Battery need to change 2 batteries every year or two, if you lucky, 3 years.

2) Proton Exora
3rd Row seat sucks. Even my 5 years old daughter feel cramp.

3) Perodua Alza
No rear air-cond, size wise feels smaller. perhaps due to design even though the size is same as Sienta.

4) Honda Freed
No rear air-cond

5) Honda BRV
3rd Row Bumpy

6) Perodua Aruz
Looks big but inside actually quite small and tight

7) Toyota Sienta
Underpower. Wind Noise when I sit at 3rd row.

All in all, I choose Sienta due to its practicality. Since I am carrying my 2 kids (which need car seat), so it is very comfy for the kids. Besides that, the function of keeping 1 3rd row seat underneath meaning I can carry one person at 3rd row and some space to put my baggage when balik kampung. Most of the cars mentioned above fold the 3rd row totally.
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QUOTE(Yveatel @ Nov 3 2021, 08:16 AM)
I am shopping for mini-mpv, after test drive, sitting at the back, and price, here is my conclusion:

1) Nissan Serena Hybrid
Spacious
Battery need to change 2 batteries every year or two, if you lucky, 3 years.

2) Proton Exora
3rd Row seat sucks. Even my 5 years old daughter feel cramp.

3) Perodua Alza
No rear air-cond, size wise feels smaller. perhaps due to design even though the size is same as Sienta.

4) Honda Freed
No rear air-cond

5) Honda BRV
3rd Row Bumpy

6) Perodua Aruz
Looks big but inside actually quite small and tight

7) Toyota Sienta
Underpower. Wind Noise when I sit at 3rd row.

All in all, I choose Sienta due to its practicality. Since I am carrying my 2 kids (which need car seat), so it is very comfy for the kids. Besides that, the function of keeping 1 3rd row seat underneath meaning I can carry one person at 3rd row and some space to put my baggage when balik kampung. Most of the cars mentioned above fold the 3rd row totally.
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Ertiga has split 3rd row seat as well and the seats are proper sized for adults. The only downside is when 3rd row seats are up, you have literally no luggage space lol.
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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Nov 3 2021, 08:39 AM)
Ertiga has split 3rd row seat as well and the seats are proper sized for adults. The only downside is when 3rd row seats are up, you have literally no luggage space lol.
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Ertiga not in my list due to problems between Proton and Suzuki. Other than that, I do look at Ertiga before realise the problems.
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Ertiga not in my list due to problems between Proton and Suzuki. Other than that, I do look at Ertiga before realise the problems.
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Serena 3rd row is split, and fold up to the side to park a Honda EX5.
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all those that recommend nissan serena got no idea how vulnerable of the lousy cvt which need thousands of ringgit to repair.

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On my list before. But no more sale.

In the end Avanza.

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QUOTE(NataM @ Nov 3 2021, 09:17 AM)
On my list before.  But no more sale.

In the end Avanza.
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Avanza, kinda jumpy.
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post Nov 3 2021, 09:53 AM

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eyeing Nissan serena E power, wondering Tan Chong group will bring it into malaysia or not
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post Nov 3 2021, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Csgopro123 @ Nov 3 2021, 07:11 AM)
See Ayam genius know why TS want to buy it .. bet u guys never thought of it

Btw kangoo not fugly meh TS?

But yes surprisingly can last long, I tot Renault is ..... Ahem.....
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It has indeed surprised me because it was bought 2nd hand where the previous owner said it was “temperamental” and indeed it was as warning lights would come on for no reason at all.

Fugly? Well I actually don’t drive it and to be frank all that have to drive it don’t really care either as they’re grateful the wheelchair can RORO rather than needing to remove the patient from the wheel chair and then loading the patient onto the wheelchair again at destination.

QUOTE(X1X1 @ Nov 3 2021, 07:28 AM)
Malaysia buyer attitude, for small car with high prices tag (90k-100k).
Small family will choose Alza with half prices.
Some prefer top up for Serena.
Hipster will go for Wish/Stream/alphard.

btw Malaysian not really in to MPV, especially small MPV with no status but expensive prices tags.
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That does make sense.


QUOTE(Yveatel @ Nov 3 2021, 08:16 AM)

All in all, I choose Sienta due to its practicality. Since I am carrying my 2 kids (which need car seat), so it is very comfy for the kids. Besides that, the function of keeping 1 3rd row seat underneath meaning I can carry one person at 3rd row and some space to put my baggage when balik kampung. Most of the cars mentioned above fold the 3rd row totally.
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Good to see this reply.

Has it held up well and to your expectations?

How’s the fuel consumption like?

QUOTE(accordvtec @ Nov 3 2021, 08:54 AM)
all those that recommend nissan serena got no idea how vulnerable of the lousy cvt which need thousands of ringgit to repair.
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That’s a definite concern, to be honest unless it’s a Honda, Toyota or Subaru, it should be avoided if problem free is what you’re after. Heat, load and torque are its main enemies.

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post Nov 4 2021, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Nov 3 2021, 02:45 PM)

Good to see this reply.

Has it held up well and to your expectations?

How’s the fuel consumption like?

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I cannot comment much on fuel consumption. Since I got it during MCO period, and hardly drive. Drove a 2 hour journey back to hometown once after MCO lifted, and looks good so far.

So far, I am still quite happy with the functions available. The 3rd row a bit small after put the kid's car booster, but still ok.

 

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