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post Oct 25 2021, 07:43 PM, updated 5y ago

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https://bgr.com/tech/macbook-pro-with-m1-ma...ut-lacks-games/

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Intel accelerated its anti-Apple campaign this fall as we got closer to the MacBook Pro event in mid-October. We explained all year long that the custom M-series SoC is Intel’s biggest nightmare right now. The M1 MacBooks have fantastic performance and battery life, significantly outperforming Intel-based machines. Intel hasn’t caught up to Apple, and it faces the prospect of other big tech giants developing their own SoCs. Google Tensor is just one such example. Then Apple unveiled the M1 Pro and M1 Max processors this week, twisting the knife.

Apple’s M1 Pro and M1 Max presentation discussed performance at length, comparing the new chips against Intel’s best processors. Apple showed that its chips deliver more power per watt than Intel machines could ever dream of. The first benchmarks that followed show that the 2021 MacBook Pro performance is indeed spectacular. More interestingly, some reports indicate that the highest-end M1 Max MacBook Pro version is more powerful than the PS5. But that’s not necessarily amazing news for gamers.

Looking at the available data, Notebook Check estimated the teraflops (TF) performance for all the new M1 Pro and M1 Max variations, as follows:

2020 M1 8-core GPU = 2.6 TF
14-inch exclusive M1 Pro 14-core GPU = 4.5 TF
Base M1 Pro 16-core GPU = 5.2 TF
Mid-range M1 Max 24-core GPU = 7.8 TF
High-end M1 Max 32-core GPU = 10.4 TF
Comparatively, the PS5’s custom GPU offers 10.28 TF of performance. The figures above are estimates. But real-life performance benchmarks will probably show that the most powerful M1 Max MacBook Pro can deliver PS5-grade performance.

Separately, the new MacBook Pros features SSDs with “jaw-dropping” read speeds of 7.4GB/s. The PS5 packs a custom 5.5GB/s SSD. The speed of the SSD is essential for the PS5’s gaming speed.
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:44 PM

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you can game on mac? Got exclusives?
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:45 PM

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This is a bit like saying your country got the biggest flattest road that can support high speed cars. But got no cars in your country
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Oct 25 2021, 07:45 PM)
This is a bit like saying your country got the biggest flattest road that can support high speed cars. But got no cars in your country
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Just install parallel desktop Windows 11 and run Steam

Should retain roughly 75% of performance

But Dualsense controller no native support in Windows so cannot play PS ported titles..
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(eidrag @ Oct 25 2021, 07:44 PM)
you can game on mac? Got exclusives?
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dota, civilization 6, shadow of tomb raider etc hmm
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Oct 25 2021, 07:48 PM)
Just install parallel desktop Windows 11 and run Steam

Should retain roughly 75% of performance

But Dualsense controller no native support in Windows so cannot play PS ported titles..
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A fully specced Intel/Ryzen and RTX3080 would still be cheaper.

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post Oct 25 2021, 07:51 PM

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If u spec everything to match a PS5 in performance , the MacBook Pro 16" will cost ~RM15k. 64GB of RAM is a must because the GPU rely on the 512bit bus LPDDR5 to get that " up to 400GB/sec" memory bandwidth as Apple advertised. You buy lower memory capacity, you lose the memory bandwidth to feed the GPU.
PS5 cost nowhere near 15k Ringgit.
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:53 PM

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And play Solitaire is it?
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Oct 25 2021, 07:48 PM)
dota, civilization 6, shadow of tomb raider etc hmm
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EXCLUSIVES 808
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:56 PM

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okay, so wheres ratchet and clank on macbook?
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:57 PM

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the price of M1 Max macbook can get one super powderful laptop tht will probably even be more powderful than PS6
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QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 25 2021, 07:51 PM)
If u spec everything to match a PS5 in performance , the MacBook Pro 16" will cost ~RM15k.  64GB of RAM is a must because the GPU rely on the 512bit bus LPDDR5 to get that " up to 400GB/sec" memory bandwidth as Apple advertised. You buy lower memory capacity, you lose the memory bandwidth to feed the GPU.
PS5 cost nowhere near 15k Ringgit.
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Of course

What is PS compared to Apple

Apple logo alone is 5k
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 25 2021, 07:51 PM)
If u spec everything to match a PS5 in performance , the MacBook Pro 16" will cost ~RM15k.  64GB of RAM is a must because the GPU rely on the 512bit bus LPDDR5 to get that " up to 400GB/sec" memory bandwidth as Apple advertised. You buy lower memory capacity, you lose the memory bandwidth to feed the GPU.
PS5 cost nowhere near 15k Ringgit.
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can ps5 run final cut pro?
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post Oct 25 2021, 07:58 PM

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Apa tahi ni compare ps5 dengan macbook
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post Oct 25 2021, 08:00 PM

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palanjiao m1 compare to ps5
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post Oct 25 2021, 08:00 PM

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Console master race strike again
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post Oct 25 2021, 08:01 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Oct 25 2021, 07:57 PM)
can ps5 run final cut pro?
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Why does a PS5 need to run Final Cut Pro ? It is advertised as a gaming console.
And in Windows platform , you have Adobe Premiere . Why need Final Cut Pro
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post Oct 25 2021, 08:02 PM

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Comparing intel etc why need to drag in ps5?

Is ps 5 a benchmark for computers?
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post Oct 25 2021, 08:05 PM

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QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 25 2021, 08:01 PM)
Why does a PS5 need to run Final Cut Pro ? It is advertised as a gaming console.
And in Windows platform , you have Adobe Premiere . Why need Final Cut Pro
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because you compare the price of macbook and ps5 as if both can run the same thing and the "cheap" price of PS5 is way way way better dry.gif dry.gif

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post Oct 25 2021, 08:06 PM

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compare the price... one is 5 figure , the other is 4 figures... go figure
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post Oct 25 2021, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(pandah @ Oct 25 2021, 08:02 PM)
Comparing intel etc why need to drag in ps5?

Is ps 5 a benchmark for computers?
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post Oct 25 2021, 08:18 PM

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post Oct 25 2021, 08:31 PM

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Its like how current flagsip phone is more powerful than Nintendo switch with tegra x 1. But u can only play stupid gacha game like genshin impact.
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post Oct 25 2021, 08:53 PM

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dont matter, epal products are still too expensive for the masses. Only high income countries can afford. even then most ppl who buy will never use up to the full potential of chip, maybe jes surf web, type word docs.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ Oct 25 2021, 07:48 PM)
Just install parallel desktop Windows 11 and run Steam

Should retain roughly 75% of performance

But Dualsense controller no native support in Windows so cannot play PS ported titles..
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So spend all that money to have less performance? Pretty silly.

People don't buy macs to game.

QUOTE(poooky @ Oct 25 2021, 08:53 PM)
dont matter, epal products are still too expensive for the masses. Only high income countries can afford. even then most ppl who buy will never use up to the full potential of chip, maybe jes surf web, type word docs.
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For normal users, the macbook air is a good choice
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post Oct 26 2021, 01:12 AM

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m1 pro max gpu is only a little bit faster than rtx3060 mobile (ga106 -13.2 billion transistors) in games
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try again apple. at least they managed to give nvidia a slap on their back abit.

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post Oct 26 2021, 01:14 AM

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if it really can play PS5 PS4 games then I buy
else no talk
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post Oct 26 2021, 01:17 AM

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ps5 perf yet ps5 game xde ayyyy

stay where you are apple, gaming ain't shifting towards your compass at all
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post Oct 26 2021, 01:21 AM

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Waa so powerful. Can play candy crush
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QUOTE(pikacu @ Oct 26 2021, 01:17 AM)
ps5 perf yet ps5 game xde ayyyy

stay where you are apple, gaming ain't shifting towards your compass at all
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if apple serious on video games, the first thing they will do were make a peace with epic.
but nope.
unreal engine is still the best game engine out there when it come to non-proprietary license game engine (ignore the like of decima,idtech, frostbite, insomniac/naughty dog in-house game engine) , unity are still far ahead compared to unreal engine, cryengine is probably much more complex
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post Oct 26 2021, 01:38 AM

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Who the fk buy Macbook for gaming purpose?
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post Oct 26 2021, 01:40 AM

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post Oct 26 2021, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(nazrul90 @ Oct 26 2021, 01:38 AM)
Cringe
Who the fk buy Macbook for gaming purpose?
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like many of those influencer reviewer huhah about.
this is huge game-changer for apple, macbook will be a great gaming platform they said.
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post Oct 26 2021, 06:15 AM

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No PS5? Got M1 Max!


How much is PS5 compared to M1 Max?


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post Oct 26 2021, 08:26 AM

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ifag and their inferior complex

Last time havent seen them care about x86 market.

suddenly they wanna trash x86... if they think mac book is good why need to trash x86? got apple commission is it?
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post Oct 26 2021, 08:42 AM

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Nobody use Mac to play games
Play game with Mac us Soham
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post Oct 26 2021, 08:58 AM

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sometimes i see reviews of m1 max/pro, and they have that benchmark part with games, and i laugh

they dont have games to bench lol

its cringey and i think they should stop comparing to ps5

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post Oct 26 2021, 10:36 AM

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gaming on Macbook. Topkek bodo
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post Oct 26 2021, 10:41 AM

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PS5 > all
PS6,7,8,9,10 etc still > all

thanks me later... owaii
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post Oct 26 2021, 11:38 AM

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rx6800m is quite close to ps5 gpu in term of raw power, lets see how m1 pro/max fare against it.

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so how this BGR have the audacity to claim that these apple silicon GPU is on par or even more powerful with ps5 gpu?

do note that sotr and borderlands3 were using metal api, so for the GPU ends, the performance should be close to native without much overhead.

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Can apple play god of war and all other ps5 exclusive? Apple have exclusive games?
If just want to do editing than why even compare with ps5?

 

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