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 Modenas/Bajaj Pulsar RS/NS200 and Dominar 400, I'm an Owner and a Foreman, AMA here!!

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TSVi Merkz
post Oct 20 2021, 10:02 PM, updated 2y ago

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Hey guys,

Bajaj has been on our shores for awhile and has been gaining alot of traction due to its affordable price brackets, decent performance, sleek looks, outstanding FC, affordable maintenance and a great starter "tanked" bike for moped riders to ease into higher CC.

Models sold here are the

RS200
NS200
NS200 ABS
Dominar 400
Dominar 400UG

I'm an owner, turned foreman, had tonnes of experience with Bajaj products in Malaysia and recently setup shop and also got our shop officially "Modenas Service Plus".

Purpose of this thread is to assist the growing number of owners(in general, without specifically promoting my shop) and also do my best to answer questions from future owners who are currently considering to purchase the above bike.

So please feel free to shoot!
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post Oct 21 2021, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Oct 21 2021, 09:28 AM)
if u got 'lobang' can get a copy (photocopy oso can) of service manual, i wana buy.
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We're bound by contract not to disclose, but if im not wrong i think you can purchase the workshop manual from Modenas SC. I do have an older outdated version for the NS on softcopy though. Will share when i get to my PC later biggrin.gif

That said, if you want some reference or spec on certain topics i might be able to help
TSVi Merkz
post Oct 21 2021, 11:27 PM

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yup in most cases "officially" cannot, but its the internet age afterall... plenty of copies out in the www.
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post Oct 24 2021, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Oct 23 2021, 07:14 PM)
I loathe to post this on the usual FB groups coz there are fanboys there who will defend to the hilt every defect on this bike.

For example, my constantly leaking fork seals are said that be my fault because I didn't cough up more money to install fork gaiters, since Modenas Bajaj fork seals are so special & exotic that they cannot stand dust particles. Not a quality problem, ok!

The other defense was that Modenas Bajaj Dominar fork seals are specially made to function when the bike is ridden daily, so if they leak it's my fault for not riding my bike often enough. Not a quality problem, ok!

Retards. They think I'm 16 riding a birthday gift daddy gave me.

Now I have this engine farting problem. The fanboys will definitely accuse me of twisting the throttle wrongly. Not a quality problem, ok!

I hate this Bajaj piece of shit with a passion.


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welp, thats sad to hear bro. I do agree that finishings level definitely isnt up to par, especially mini attention to details. And definitely isnt "OK" and dont agree with fanboys defending existing issues with even more... uhh.. "quality" arguements. To add to this, quality check is obnoxious for all Bajaj especially 2020 onwards. If you lurk in groups enough, you'd notice that 90% of users that has issues with their bikes, are new users or owners who are still under 15k mileage.

Now my personal rant aside, for the price you pay for that dominar, you probably wont be able to get anything else remotely close to what it has to offer. Issues that are haunting the bike arent major issues that cant be fixed.

For your fork issue, you might want to consider aftermarket seals, Ariete performs and last and they arent expensive either. I just ordered some recently to stock up and addressing this issue.

As for your throttle response (farting) issue, you might wanna make use of that warranty and visit any SC or Service Plus to get your bike scanned for errors. My first thoughts are most likely issues with your TPS or sensors.

For warranty and claims, might want to consider visiting Service Plus instead of Dealer, depending on the shop, some of us arent that strict with protocols and alot easier to deal with and provide alternative solution instead of the standard by the book SOP while retaining your warranty.
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post Oct 24 2021, 01:50 AM

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QUOTE(007SMH @ Oct 23 2021, 08:38 PM)
I guess you're the unlucky guy here who got the faulty one, my dominar's only problem was the rear brake no grippy after twice bleeding and I'm back to usual.
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Yup bro, this is a persisting issue since first gen Doms. Indeed simple bleeding solves the issue, but, instead of bleeding, id recommend flushing out the brake fluid altogether and replacing it with something other than bajaj. While most of their parts and components dont have much issues, their consumables/fluids are definitely something i find hard to recommend, aside from warranty purposes.
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post Oct 24 2021, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 24 2021, 04:03 PM)
For the peace of mind.  I ride Jap bikes.
No China or India bike.
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Fair enough, but to be frank, no bike is without its issues, be it Jap or European. Their number of recalls arent fun to remember either, I personally had experience with a number of Suzuki recall back in Japan.

I think its better for everyone if we keep an open mind to products without huge discrimination on their make and origin be it China or anywhere else, tech and manufacturing is improving rapidly so are their management. The japanese/european bike you're currently riding are most likely made in India/Thailand/Indonesia etc.

The best peace of mind, is an open mind and to realize machines are made by human and humans, aren't free of errors.
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post Oct 24 2021, 11:57 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Oct 24 2021, 09:14 PM)
ZZR-Pilot I can feel the pissed off-ness.
seems there got ting ting tik tik sound? What is that? I hope it's not cam chain loose and everything just hitting at each other.
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i noticed some noises from the exhaust. Tbh, not a fan of the "dual exhaust" on a single cylinder, its just unnecessarily weird and over complicating simple mechanics sweat.gif

Also, i just browsed through my recently acquired DOM4 UG workshop manual, the valve clearance it calls for is pretty big for an engine this size. Which should explain the louder than usual tappet sound.


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post Nov 23 2021, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 22 2021, 11:42 PM)
I too avoid the Modernass retards like the plague as much as I can, so I service the bike elsewhere.

But when the bike shat itself and I needed to claim warranty, Eang Chun told me fuck it wait for the lorry to come to load up the bike & send it to... yep you guessed it... Modenas Kg Subang, Shah Alam.

LPPL.

So better pray to god Modenass made your bike on a good day, not on a Friday when those lazy bastards cut corners to go home early for the weekend. Otherwise, you will know my pain when you have to claim warranty...
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As a side note bro, you can also claim at Service Plus, Service Plus operators are technically independent, hence some are more than happy to help you claim and you can definitely expect better service than SC.
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post Nov 23 2021, 02:57 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 22 2021, 08:57 AM)
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meanwhile the dominar will cont to hv other heppy owners...
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I'd say most are pretty happy as far as i know. Problems aren't major and easily resolvable, most decide spend some money to fix those issues permanently, it beats having to claim via modenas and have it recur again and suffer downtime and the hassle of the procedures.
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post Nov 25 2021, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(goldmine @ Nov 25 2021, 10:16 AM)
I'm coming up to 500 first service for my UG. Do I have to go back to EMOS to make use of my free service coupon or can I do it at any modenas sc?
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U can do it at any authorized modenas SC/service plus/dealers. Do ensure you have the oil filter replaced AND ensure they are original modenas/bajaj ones to safeguard your warranty. Some stricter SC will inspect your filter and other consummables in case of a warranty claim.
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post Nov 27 2021, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(overl33t @ Nov 26 2021, 06:04 PM)
Wa EC screw you until liddat meh

I oso bought my NS from there but didn't receive that kind of experience rofl

Also OP, weren't you the guy who posted his workshop showing off an NS with a round headlight mod in MPOC FB group?

Looking to get a windshield of about 45 to 50cm and a crossbar to mount accessories in the middle instead of relying on screwing in the mirror mount. How much would these additions usually cost?
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Ye thats me and that black NS is mine :rofl:

I havent started stocking up on windshields, most windshield for the NS are installed over the stock "windshield", which i find rather filmsy. Theres this guy, windbro selling the bracket, its sturdy, but offers very little in terms of angle adjustment and looks pretty cumbersome. The bar you were mentioning is indeed usefull, but can get messy and clutter things up alot, i find that the easiest way to mount stuff is to move over to fatbar or just regular 22mm bar with a riser adapter. Looks alot neater too and provides a more comfortable riding position.

QUOTE(hr_elie @ Nov 26 2021, 11:32 PM)
just to chip in here.

clean the maf sensor insiode the air filter box. i diagnosed it something wrong with the maf voltage thru obd.

happen to my friend's dominar d400. this is due to air-fuel mixture backflow during throttle closure, thus contaminate the sensor. the sensor is bosch sensor.

just buy throttle body cleaner from mr diy will do.

ecu need to read the amount of air coming in, the contaminated sensor give erratic reading thus the problem.
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Also to add, we discovered multiple v1 and v2 user having this problem which leads back to water seeping into their tank. Early signs are rust spotted along the lips opening under the tank lid. The MAF sensor would definite go haywire when your fuel mix is contaminated with water. Light cases gives occasional stutter, most user reports problem going away after refuelling couple of times. In a severe case, the bike wouldnt even idle and was vibrating harder than an excavator when throttle forcefully opened to keep engine running and the exhaust smells aweful. A full tank flush was needed and the issue went away. Do check if you happen to have this, if you do, i suggest finding an o-ring the size of your rubber flange on the lid seal and place it under the seal to further reinforce sealing.

QUOTE(goldmine @ Nov 27 2021, 12:43 AM)
if you guys are open sunday, i'll drop by with my coupon
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Yep we open daily for now. See you on sunday :smile:
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post Nov 28 2021, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 27 2021, 05:42 PM)
I paid the Modenas Svc Ctr a visit today to find out why my bike is still stuck there after 5 weeks.

The farting problem has been rectified. They hv replaced the ignition coil, runs fine now according to them.

To address my angry complaint about the fork seals that repeatly leak despite being replaced under warranty, they're replacing the fork stanchions for new ones from India. Yep.. the chrome leg... both of them. Brand new ones. The new stanchions shd be in by early Dec.

New fork stanchions aren't something you'd consider a 'simple fix' or something regular workshops are prepared to propose.
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wow new set from india.... i wonder why though, the part is already available locally, we received our stock last week. Welp, modenas and their SOP, better not squeeze our brain for that laugh.gif

Yup regular workshop arent usually prepared for a warranty claim, i don't wanna sound hard sell or anything like that, but we've managed to cut short the wait time significantly for all our regular customers that come to us for warranty claim by offering what we have in stock first upon system approval instead of waiting for something from India via SC's protocols/SOP.

And reason why i proposed aftermarket fix is, the flaw is in there itself in its unlikely a new stanchion/chrome tube will fix it permanently. KTM's Duke and RCs(which is where D4 UG fork came from) arent exempted from the fork issue, one of my recent case is a friend earlier this week busted his RC390 oil seal on a trackday on a bike that clocked under 5k mileage and literally half his bike soaked wet in fork fluid.

QUOTE(goldmine @ Nov 27 2021, 09:36 PM)
ok great bro, need to make appointment?
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nope bro, just hop right in.
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post Nov 28 2021, 05:48 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Nov 28 2021, 05:11 AM)
Daily? Imma gonna need this when my bike runs out of warranty in Feb.

What is the name and location of your shop?
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We're located in Puchong bro, Vi Motowerkz, can't post link on a probation account sweat.gif


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post Jan 24 2022, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(techjack @ Jan 23 2022, 04:27 PM)
Great i found the facebook link to your workshop.

Who do we look for when we get there?

Is there a supervisor we can look for there?
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Just look for me, i'm Jay, its my contact on the FB

QUOTE(techjack @ Jan 23 2022, 05:50 PM)
Hello

Do you sell the O-ring to put under our rubber flange on the lid seal?

Prevention is better than cure.

Many thanks
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Am looking for one as well, the one we currently use is slightly too thick, not ideal.

QUOTE(Shah Jawa @ Jan 23 2022, 11:40 PM)
Boss, I bought the Dom4 sometime ago in 2018 .. recently hit 20k mileage and it feels awkward ..
I had the major service done, change stock tyre and wheel balancing ..

Vibration is kaw2 now .. what should i check?
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For vibration issues on any bike, i think you need to first identify if its related to your engine or non-engine related. Does vibration worsen with revs? or with speed?
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post Jan 27 2022, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(iambryan1234 @ Jan 26 2022, 06:04 PM)
Lazy want to post in MPOC cause retarded toxic redneck culture.

Should I be concerned if my bike suddenly reduces it's revs and the engine check light comes on momentarily before disappearing after a few seconds riding on clutch?

This happened when I was cruising at around 80 to 90 near DC Mall at Pusat Bandar Damansara.

Engine oil still a bit yellowish despite doing 9300kma (last service at 4.6k) and not complete grey or black, coolant levels seem fine to me too.
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hey bro, good to see u here heh


QUOTE(Noryume @ Jan 26 2022, 06:15 PM)
RS200
NS200
NS200 ABS
Dominar 400
Dominar 400UG

Between all of this, which one you will recommend most?
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hmmm... lets see, let me try put it as simple as i can

RS vs NS, its just matter of your personal preference, while some might argue RS looks sportier, provides sportier riding posture and is slightly faster, its basically just an NS with different coverset and handle. Both are almost identical albeit minor difference in engine and EMS. So, in these 2, its just your preference, for under 10k, both provides great value and more fun than their counterparts that is 30-50% more expensive. Maintenance is generally not too expensive either, engine are both based on KTM 200 series platform and both has ABS options.

As for Dominar and Dominar UG, due to UG emergence, the previous model will definitely suffer from severe price dips. But its also good news for new owners, i think you can see D4 used going for around 7-8k ish.

The Dominar UG is just that much better, DOHC vs SOCH which indirectly leads to additional 5 horsepower, torque is as much fun as you'd expect from a large single cylinder, comes as standard with gear indicator, pretty techy looking dual HUD/speed panel, USD forks(derived from KTM), Nitrox rear shocks, dual channel abs and brakes by Bybre. At 15k brand new, its a steal.


That said, if you're looking for a simple decent daily ride, all above is pretty nice choice, but if you have B full and willing to allocate slightly more budget into D4 maintenance, its also a good choice.
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post Feb 4 2022, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Feb 4 2022, 12:41 AM)
I am NS200 owner, my bike some times will have engine oil signal turns on riding for less than 1km, but checked a lot of times that the engine oil is always within the range, do you have any idea what happen?
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could be one or more of the following

1. Oil sensor switch malfunctioning
2. Too much/too little engine oil
3. Wrong viscosity/rating oil
4. Blockage in oil delivery/nozzle paths

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post Feb 5 2022, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Feb 5 2022, 04:43 PM)
another problem is that, the engine will goes off when i pull all the clutch in front of traffic light, even switch to 1st gear already
have to keep rev a bit when stopping to keep the engine from dying, do you have the same problem ?
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This is not a common problem, the cause can be due to your clutch having too much freeplay. This can be adjusted yourself, do try searching in youtube "adjusting clutch lever freeplay".

If this doesnt fix your issue, your engine might have issue idling.
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post Feb 9 2022, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(sammm33 @ Feb 8 2022, 03:23 AM)
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hi Jay, if i go your shop, can help check my d400 why getting knocking sound during cold start?
also, can you check if my bike need VC?
currently odo clocked at 60k, all this while all ok.
not sure related or not, but issue start after i go change to 3rd party sprocket @ 15-42 (both front and rear is now RK brand).
the reason why i highlight sprocket is because i read at AMS fb , mention that 3rd party front sprocket screw might hit the engine.
also despite done change fresh engine oil, but the engine still feel not smooth not sure why.

also if your side can help on my front fork leaking issue that will be great. done change fork seal 3 times at SC , but leaking still happen.
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Sure do drop by.

Screw isnt really "hitting" the engine per-se, more like, its too long and grinded out a portion of the seal over time. However, changing sprockets should not require changing screws, i think most of us(workshops), simply swap the sprocket and retained the old screws. Furthermore, sprocket kits usually doesnt comes with screws and you need to reuse your old one.

As for knocking sound during cold start, could be 1 or few of many factors.

As for the fork leak, yea we encourage customers to swap out the standard(bajaj) seals with Ari seals. And while we at it, replace the standard(bajaj) oil with better aftermarket ones(motul/ipones/belrays) to a weight of your preference.
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post Feb 10 2022, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Feb 9 2022, 08:53 PM)
Hi Jay, can you PM me your shop details. Can't seem to find you on FB.

My D400 is due for the 20K service, put on 15k in the last 10 months

. How much do you charge for the 20K VC job?

Thanks

Edit. Sorry, found it. Are you guys open on Saturdays? Might just drop by since quite near to me.
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We're open everyday generally. 20k should be major service, but in D4 case, VC will only be required if the tappet sound is apparent on a stethoscope inspection. Apart from that, for 20k, generally,

1. air filter
2. fuel filter
3. spark plugs
4. Coolant
5. brake systems
6. other general health checks
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QUOTE(scorpio94 @ Feb 13 2022, 12:11 PM)
Hello guys, I'm in the process of getting my B full license. Came across the NS200 being a cheap and good beginner friendly bike with ABS. Do you guys have any tips or suggestions? I have no riding experience and this will be my first bike.

Would buying a second hand bike be a better option as I may fall ?

Thank you

Edit: would like to add that my budget is below 10k
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Theres quite abit of choice for bikes below 10k in similar classes, hence i wont go into specific comparison. But in general, the NS advantage over most most bikes on the segment(or yours) would be

1. Comparatively cheap, you can get a used NS ABS for 5k or so. A brand new one cost around 9-10k. Given that its a rather straight forward bike without complicated systems, tested and proven, id say its a safe bet to get a used one. Especially so that its your first one, save the extra cash for safety upgrades(tyres/crashbars) and other minor useful accessories or even attend a proper safety riding course instead of ones in driving school.

2. Fall safe, as in, its not expensive to drop nor would damage many parts(minor drops). The bike is pretty simple, even without a crashbar, a simple fall might only cost you a handlebar, side mirrors and a signal lamp replacement.

3. Lightweight, not as light if you were to compare to 150ccs, but for the power vs displacement vs weight, the NS sports a pretty decent ratio. Its handles pretty well for a beginner to learn too.

4. Cheap spareparts and widely available, you can source spareparts directly from modenas or from us, service plus, 3rd party shopee reseller etc. I would go as far as to say, being an "odd brand" in malaysia, its unlikely for you to have issue finding for parts, and not to mention they cost pretty damm cheap in comparison to other smaller niche companies(KTNS/ZONTES/NAZA/CFMOTO).


These, are my personal opinion.

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