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 Modenas/Bajaj Pulsar RS/NS200 and Dominar 400, I'm an Owner and a Foreman, AMA here!!

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post Jun 17 2022, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(Sammy6 @ Jun 16 2022, 12:30 AM)
Hi TS, would like your expertise on this issue.
I have just gotten a new NS200.. First time riding arnd and notice this strange WHEEZING sound coming from the engine? Also the thighs area can get quite hot.. Is it normal?

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Hello, congrats on the new ownership.

I cant be 100% sure, but the sound from your video do sound like the radiator fan running. Your fan turns on and off depending on the coolant temperature, where if you're static(or very slow in traffic jam), it will turn on. It shouldnt turn on if you cruise along the highway at above 60kmh.

When the fan turns on, its normal to feel heat on your thighs, as the fan disperse heat off your radiators towards engine area(you).
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post Jun 22 2022, 02:21 AM

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QUOTE(ZZR-Pilot @ Jun 18 2022, 11:57 PM)
My wife had never ridden a motorcycle before, ever.

It took her 3 sessions to learn what the clutch is, what it does and how to operate it.

Mastering it (upshifting + downshifting thru the gearbox, riding the clutch for low speed control) took longer however.

And she dropped my D400 a hell lot. Lol.

When she was confident with the clutch work & riding basics to start learning roadcraft, I got rid of the bike.
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QUOTE(Sammy6 @ Jun 21 2022, 12:57 AM)
Thank you for your insight Vi Merkz!!

Like you said, after a long ride or under hot weather, the fan turns on.. I guess its normal... Just that the WHEEZING doesn't sound like a normal radiator fan  laugh.gif

Also, I heard from mechanics shop that, since the NS200 engine is similar to the KTM engine, we have to be wary on the maintenance on engine oil.
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generally speaking, you should always replace your engine oil(along with oil filter) in time and dont use them longer than recommended. Stick with recommended grade of viscosity xW50(earlier figure doesnt matter).

As rule of thumb,

Mineral oils - replace every 1500km
Semi synthethic oils - replace every 3000-3500km
Fully synthethic oil - 5000km


Its basically the same engine with different block/head with the KTM sibbling, 70% of the parts are interchangeable. NS/RS200 = Duke/RC200, Dominar = Duke/RC390

Apart from the regular oil change interval, keep an eye on major maintenance every 15-25k. If in doubt how to service your bike, refer to your owner manual, theres a schedule that that will let you know what to do at which mileage.
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post Jun 22 2022, 02:22 AM

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eh my bad, misquoted, noob rank cant edit my post ...
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post Aug 15 2022, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(leon898 @ Aug 14 2022, 12:21 PM)
Just wanna ask, is it true that ns200 is not suitable with fully? Anyone can give insight what is bs6 compliant?
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QUOTE(leon898 @ Aug 15 2022, 09:23 AM)
I see. felt weird too when reading comment at FB. Should be the same as Duke 200.
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You may disregard the popular myth among the pulsar community where synthetic oils are bad for the engine. Pulsar engine derived from the KTM 200, and they arent made in 1980s.
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post Aug 21 2022, 03:02 AM

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QUOTE(Sammy6 @ Aug 21 2022, 02:08 AM)
Nice side bags drool.gif Do you mind sharing the model and brand?
Plan on getting side box/bags for my ns200.
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If im not wrong, its the Komine saddle bag, sold in shopee. Its good for occasional travel, huge storage. But it sags over time unless you fit a sidebox bracket to support it. For daily use id still recommend a sidebox.
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post Aug 21 2022, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 21 2022, 03:31 PM)
Look below.

But I have since installed proper Givi rack/panniers. Got a good deal on new unused " 2nd hand set" for cheap.

I bought the "Komine" saddlebags because they were on sale, paid less than 100rm online and as a temp solution as I didn't yet find a deal/design I liked for a more permanent setup.

The other thing is, on my bike it sits flush with the handlebars so filtering is not an issue. My new givi panniers stick out 5cm each side more, so need extra care when filtering.
Indeed it is.

I added 2 simple aluminium exhaust hangers to give the sidebags a little more support. A few ringgit for them and a few nuts/bolts. Simple DIY.

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Only works if you already got the givi heavy duty topbox rack

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"New" givi rack/panniers. Paid 600 for the set of rack+ cases. Just too bad, the budget line of givi panniers all look like shit. Basically only 3-4 options in the market.
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yeah man, the premium one goes 3k+ for the givis. And there isnt much options either in the market currently, aside from stuff like Shads. I gave up looking for nice sideboxes haha. They are either not the size i want, too expensive to justify or too ugly.

I did some custom bracket for my "komine" as well previously as i really like how it looks and you can even fit a full face once expanded. While the bracket lasts, the fabric does and turned ugly from sun exposure. At one point i even considered getting the original Komine instead of the fakes thats flooding our market, all in all, i settled with the china V35 sideboxes.

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Custom fitted the brackets for an extra touch of tardiness as well
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post Aug 23 2022, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 22 2022, 07:30 PM)
Cool, how are the v35? Heard they leak though, or was that another version of the v35.

Did consider that but then the I got the 23L givis new in the box for 400, and the 2nd hand rack for 200. So...went with that instead. The ugly box turned out pretty decent due to the squarish shape
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not sure, i havent had a leak on these before, but the V35 do have 2 different versions. Most easily identifiable by the quick release mechanism(new ver), old version is bolted on directly to the bracket. Mine is the newer version.

And yes in term of usability, i guess its pretty subjective, i personally do prefer the side opening style, but i do agree top cover is alot more practical and convenient to use.
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post Aug 28 2022, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 26 2022, 04:36 PM)
Out of curiosity, does your v35v2 fit the standard givi monokey rack? I know the old v35 is permanent screwed in but the V2 has quick release.
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yes it does, my vulcan has the givi bracket on it, I swap my boxes over whenever I switch bikes. Plug and play, no mods required.
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post Aug 31 2022, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Aug 30 2022, 04:52 PM)
Do you have an OBD2 tool at your shop? My dominar just threw a check engine light. Need to find out what is wrong.
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yeah for sure, do drop by anytime
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post Sep 3 2022, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(Lee767 @ Sep 2 2022, 05:29 PM)
Anyone can help me? Accidentally dropped my NS200 ABS and having a bend shifter.
However cannot shift down to Neutral, and when shift down got weirds sound as video attached.

Had ordered a replacement shifter, will replaced the bend shifter fix it?

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It would most likely fix it, shifter lever is always prone to drop damage. But you could have attempted to bend it back with long pipes, if you're nearby my workshop, do drop by we'll try bend it back for free.
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post Nov 8 2022, 03:43 AM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 8 2022, 03:11 AM)
How's your turd doing?
1) is yours a lemon due to no QC from Modenas?
2) or it's an inherent flaw with the bike itself - where it is just a matter of time to failure due to bad design? e.g. Volkswagen 7 speed dry clutch

I am thinking of picking one up to drop it around while practicing.

EDIT: and it seems Modenas themselves are not bothered to solve your issues, cannot send to claim warranty at authorized workshops like Vi Merkz here?
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hello, i think he most probably sold his turn laugh.gif

Let me try answer,

1. Yes its most likely a lemon draw from Modenas
2. The engine is basically almost identical to the KTM390, especially so for the newer D4 UG. Same goes to the fork, brake system, injection system as well as ECU.

While i wouldnt say the bike is flaw free, it certainly still is the best value out there, and so far, there isn't any "unsolvable" issues, at least not that i've encountered.

As for ZZR's turn, yep I did solve the issue(hopefully, as he hasnt got back to me since then), and yes warranty is definitely honored. Just that, different workshops has different method of solving the issue, that includes SC itself and other independent service plus like ours.
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post Nov 8 2022, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Nov 8 2022, 10:37 AM)
2. Is the fork for the D4 UG same as KTM? KTM runs WP forks right. Seems like leaking fork is common, does your fix solve it for good?

But I guess if Modenas HQ doesn't give a flying fish about its customers, and you as an authorised SC can claim warranty work for the customer, there's less to worry about. Since authorised SC is charging Modenas for warranty work anyway, it is business for them.
Nothing to argue about the value, where to find brand new 400cc bike for RM14k, all thanks to Modenas *cough* protectionism *cough*.

Brake dive - can use heavier oil in the forks to reduce this? Nice to see you really whacking your bike.

I am thinking given its price point and size, it would be the best training wheels to do parking lot drills, of course first choice is the Duke 390 but that's double the price. As long as it is not a nightmare with maintenance. What year is yours?
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Pretty likely a rebranded WP, logo is absent but everything else checks out the same and is identical, heck i've got plenty of KTM customers buying service kits and components from me because bajaj's branding is way cheaper than KTM ones, goes the same for other engine spareparts.

Yes the same leak is present in KTM, a customer got a brand new 390, and took it to the track, literally broke on the spot(seal/fork). Replacing the seals with stock seals won't help, go with good aftermarket ones (ariette).


Nose dive largely subjective, of course you can compensate the dive with thicker oil(15w - 25w). But avoid getting them too stiff, they affect your braking.
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post Dec 19 2022, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(zarakiken @ Dec 19 2022, 01:58 PM)
Vi Merkz you open today? Will come to service my NS200 500KM... haha
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ye bro, we open daily, we usually post our off days in FB if we ever have any
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post Nov 25 2023, 04:24 AM

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My apologies for necro-ing this old thread, things picked up quite abit at the shop and hasnt been lurking around forums in awhile notworthy.gif




QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 17 2023, 06:34 PM)
I really like the Duke 390v2 on paper.. the way it looks and the package.

But man, the stories you guys share on the Dominar UG is terrifying.

I remembered when the Duke 390 first launched there was hype. Then I assume when the reliability issues came reared its head the hype died down.

The v2 didn’t get much fanfare, even less so you can get its cousin the D400 for almost a third of the price.
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Duke and dominar UG, while the share the same engine design (90%), rest assured they are pretty much different in many aspects. The largest similarities are in crankcase where almost everything can be pnp swapped in and out of each other, UG has the slipper clutch version of the d390. Block to head onwards, while some still share same design (rod/camshafts/crankshaft), are mostly different, even the piston (same 89mm), but has different ring specs, diff skirt design/length and majorly different oil rings and clearance/torque specs. Heck even the engine weighs different, we did not weight them exactly to the gram, but plopped enough dominar and ktm390s to notice that the ktm counterpart being slightly heavier. Our team members are all able to down a d4ug engine individually, but when it comes to ktm390, extra pair of hands helps.

I would probably say lemon units exist in all make and model of anything, but comparing ktm to in house bajaj bikes, ktm has way better QC and chances of getting a lemon unit is most likely significantly lesser than the dom. This also applies to spareparts, where ktm qc is noticably superior, and in some cases of complex issues with the d4 we had to deal with, sometimes, installing ktm parts fixes it (eg, timing chain).

Also, based strictly on our shop statistics alone, ktm engines wears and last over time much better than the dominar. Hence, the price difference albeit being rather similar in terms of specs, but do keep in mind riding feel is massively different, neither good or bad, matter of preference, usage and application.


QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Apr 18 2023, 09:37 AM)
Lol. Ride it back to back and you'd see why the Duke costs more than the dominar. They are not the same thing, especially the Dom v1. The UG gets a little closer but still way different.

The feel, ride, fueling , power delivery and handling of the duke is much more entertaining. Responses are much quicker and is more tossable owning to its much more aggressive geometry.

The duke is the athletic cousin to the couch potato dominar.

Taken in isolation, the dominar is a decent bike, handles quite well for what it is, cheap..but a Duke 390 (or z250, mt25...etc) it is not.
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Indeed, they are pretty much on a different segment of market, the similarities ends at the engine. Albeit using same forks and brakes, they are tuned differently. Dominar aims for a touring-ish feel where the bike remains pretty steady at constant high speed, while ktm is a lively fun little thing that begs to be tossed around.


QUOTE(zarakiken @ Apr 25 2023, 05:47 PM)
one major thing our friend got wrong, is the engine, v1 is single cam, v2(ug) is twin cam and produces approx 5bhp more than the v1. That said, personally i still prefer riding the v1, it vibrate ALOT less, and makes half the noise v2 does. Torque down low rpm feels more pronounced and more engaging that the linear v2 power curve.

QUOTE(iambryan1234 @ May 11 2023, 02:28 AM)
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Anyone wanna guess how long its gonna take for this overpriced piece of 250cc junk to become a flop? Stupid ass pricing literally topup a bit can get D400 ady
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QUOTE(zarakiken @ May 13 2023, 01:39 PM)
It will flop badly... haha... but still got some ppl will buy... haha...
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QUOTE(Patent @ May 13 2023, 06:52 PM)
i think it has a market for people that dont own B full license
or maybe this is just their tactic so D400 sells more laugh.gif
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literal malaysian 250cc crisis. You get so many people that are "malas/lazy" upgrade license and get stuck behind <250cc, while in reality larger bikes are getting cheaper and 250cc are getting absurdly expensive. IMO, the d250 will inevitably flop eventually imo. Just for the records, since launch, i had less than 5 owners of the d250 that came for service. And just couple days ago i had a teh session with my modenas friends, official SC only had one breakdown case, and also very very miniscule amt of regular service. I wouldn't be surprised if the d250 suddenly gets discontinued, its not that difficult, they can just swap a d4 engine over, everything else is pnp.


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post Nov 25 2023, 04:24 AM

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QUOTE(eddydo @ May 17 2023, 11:32 AM)
About to pull a trigger on a gen2 rc390. boss ade service this?
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ada boss, feel free to drop by. Fun bike RC390, but do keep in mind parts on the ktm, is anywhere between 3-5 times the price of the dominar. There are many misniscule parts that i would suggest owner to use the dominar ones as they are basically the same thing, but when it comes to engine parts, best to stick strictly with ktm.

QUOTE(aegis`- @ Jun 5 2023, 02:46 PM)
after reading all the issue. Is dom 400 UG still a good buy for now?

New rider incoming soon . B full in process.
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all in all, putting myself in shoe of a non-workshop owner and also for a new B full license holder, and if i have 15k to spend to purchase a bike, the d4ug(or v1), still remain on the top of my list. Despite all the short coming, 15k BRAND NEW for what you get, is a no brainer. It aint a perfect bike, but the shortcomings is nothing that you couldnt fix. Theres simply nothing better. That said, dont be surprise if you cant keep up with the 250 twins from r25, ninja 250s, these are very different market segment(and heck they cost more), but when down to torque on city ride where theres many stop and go situation, the d4 still remains superior as well as in terms of comfort. This is an honest personal opinion. Personally i dont think cc should be the main factor in deciding a purchase, its what you expect out of the machine, how much you're willing to spend and what you plan to do with it.


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post Nov 25 2023, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(red.john @ Nov 25 2023, 05:24 AM)
Is it possible to fit in NS200 with RS200 rear ABS brake?
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Yes its possible, but probably not cost effective and practical, you would need to replace the single channel abs module with the dual, on top of that you'd have to replace the harness socket which will void warranty for sure as there is no way to do so without a pretty intrusive mod, on top of that you'll have to replace the hose as well. This will set you back around RM2000-2500.

But again, personally i dont find rear abs to be appealing at all, in all bikes i owned, i usually bypass the rear abs and just let the front one work. They reduce rear brake ability rather significantly (depending on bike make and abs module, but yes for the pulsar's boschs). In fact most of my d4 customer had their rear abs bypassed.

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post Dec 6 2023, 02:28 AM

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nice write up! If im not wrong your batch wasnt fully local CKD, like the kawa by modenas, engine still comes as a whole unit, while the rest of them are assembled here. Earlier batches are less likely to be lemonades. That said, your bike still lookin great the last time we had the major.

PS : your clutch plates are in stock, and you left a bottle of coolant here
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post Dec 16 2023, 02:45 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Dec 15 2023, 01:53 PM)
For all intents and purposes. I also prefer the powerband of the V1. That was one of the reason I bought a late year V1 used instead of a new V2 (then just a month or 2 before launch)

On paper the V2's higher hp looks tempting, but it isn't until you realise max torque is also 500rpm higher (torque is same between V1 and V2). Higher rpm is fine with multi cylinder engines, but on a thumper, all it means even more vibrations to get to max torque. The V1 will be the more responsive motor for in town use where most of the riding will be between 5-6k rpm. In retrospect, it was exactly that I had expected when I chose the V1 instead of waiting for the V2... An unintuitive action from a potential buyer.

That said, the V2 does come with a lot of improvements over the V1 like brakes, suspension and other componentry.

I had a similar experience with my car also. I had a 1.9L (bored out and high comp pistons) SOHC satria with loads of low end torque which I do a bit of touge, hill climbs and short tracks with. Switched to the twin cam head and absolutely hatred it. Eventually put another SOHC head back on. The DOHC had 30+ hp more but moved the powerband some 1500rpm up causing a very weak bottom end.
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well, the majority of the average consumers are pretty likely to be just brochure warriors, just like how people gets super hyped for the 50hp zx25r. It prolly take quite abit of experience with different type of bikes/vehicle in general to truly understand how powerband works, how torque correlate with hp, cylinder count/cam variant/boosts/gearing/compression/management/tunes and such affects the actual driving/riding experience over a spec sheet.



QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Dec 15 2023, 03:21 PM)
Ran my tank dry till it sputters today.

Managed to squeeze in 11.5L of fuel. So whatever balance 1.5L of fuel left in the tank is just to allow you to sputter to a gas station....

Maybe the tank is smaller than the advertised 13L or there is an issue with the height of the fuel pickup.
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Or maybe the engineers would claim it to be "safety features" to protect your fuel pump laugh.gif

But yeah, most bikes has the pump installed towards the south of the tank, the lowest rear part of the tank as the fuel would stay there when bike is in motion. In all bajaj bike's, its usually at the center which is pretty odd if you ask me.
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post Dec 17 2023, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(jaycee1 @ Dec 17 2023, 10:54 AM)
So god forbid you need to tackle an incline on low fuel. Hahahaha. Combination of forward movement and uphill incline means you'd never make it up.
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now imagine you have 1 litre of fuel left, then petrol station is 50 meters ahead, but 20% incline. You shall experience the true definition of "so near yet so far". icon_question.gif
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post Dec 20 2023, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(Nightstalker1993 @ Dec 19 2023, 11:02 AM)
Dominar still ok la, imagine 12L tank on a literbike like me, that's what you call true range anxiety haha. For me simple, fuel light comes on, just search for a fuel station, don't push your luck.
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I can relate, imagine the anxiety doing top speed runs on zx10, no fuel gauge laugh.gif

When indicator turns on, i get rekt by 250cc bois

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