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post Jan 23 2023, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 23 2023, 02:28 PM)
GREED is the soil on which Ponzi schemes thrive.
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GREED IS GOOD.
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post Jan 24 2023, 04:21 PM

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to Summarize my comments yesterday.

(1) Fiat money only is real when deposit and withdrawal is made.

(2) There is no real money backing the digits USD in the system. It's back by the "confidence/demand" only.

(3) Each deposit made earlier is capture by upline via p2p selling their profits and excess goes to the company as profit. no money back the usd in the system.

(4) Currently Demand is lower than 1. company force to pay the additional withdrawal from their profit buffer which already depleted

(5) force to change the settlement system from old to TEX
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post Jan 24 2023, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Jan 24 2023, 05:09 PM)
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Answer : this is Ponzi scheme. Capital goes to
1. Ponzi boss
2. Your upline
3. The investor that withdraw early to escape from this Ponzi

I am appealed he hasn't asked :
"is this giant Ponzi scheme and I am stupid hamster still running around on a wheel?"
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Yes the entire $10B digits is back with whatever profit balance left at the Ponzi boss account. The rest already gone.

That's why the clients now all doesn't understand at all. Currently they are switch settlement system.

Previously, settlement is done by new deposit via p2p and company.

There is no money backing the capital "USD" in the system.

Kosong. Telor.

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post Jan 24 2023, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 24 2023, 07:22 PM)
That diagram so nice you made one ah? 👍🏻
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Ya. Old uncle trying to create info graphic. But seems like failed infographics haha.
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post Jan 25 2023, 01:40 PM

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ya but investors cannot understand simple maths.

They are confuse with the term being used earlier in genuine system. In TFX there are no "DEPOSIT" and no "CAPITAL".

Since there is no Deposit therefore there is NO MoNEY held to back the USD 10B fake USD in the system.

The investors are basically masturbating while watching porn (porn = usd on the backoffice keep on churns out more USD by the FM).

It seems that the masturbated too long and inflicted heave damage to their brain cells already.

Actually both settlement fake USD settlement and TFX settlement is the same thing. The only different is old settlement the company act as stabiliser, when withdrawal more than deposit company will pay the excess to make it 1:1.

TFX settle is to the market demand, so when withdrawal more than deposit it will drop the price instead of the company pegging it.

In both system, the USD in the system is non existence.

This post has been edited by vanguish: Jan 25 2023, 08:23 PM
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post Jan 25 2023, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(clyeoh1980 @ Jan 25 2023, 05:34 PM)
When it will collapse ?
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Won't collapse already, TFX successfully pushed all the liabilities to TFX coin which settle by market price.

In my opinion, real music chair game is ON now. There will still be buyer at current $0.20-0.30, but since now already understand this is a Ponzi, once the price shot up. The uplines all will pull plug by cash out and cause total crash on the TFX price maybe to 0.02.

Previously many ppl consider this as legit investment and keep compounding. Now most of them already know this is a Ponzi game. They will gang up push the demand up now, if successful they will surely cash out immediate and cause a way more severe drop to near 0.01
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post Jan 26 2023, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(aaa_batteries @ Jan 26 2023, 06:19 AM)
I can’t believe there are people who actually believe Ponzi boss will do that … lmao
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It's not the matter whether the boss want to give back the money or not. The Ponzi boss don't have the đź’° money. All the $10B is a fake digits in the system only.

Wow this one is cute, "I thought this Ponzi can last forever". A Ponzi may last forever if it's big enough, like a scale of USD dollar Ponzi.

Ponzi don't back with Fiat Cash, Ponzi dollar are backed with Confidence only. confidence generate demand.

Like I say, I think TEX is manipulation the price to stay at 0.26-0.29. I don't think the existing confidence level is at 1:0.26 now. It's free market more to 1:0.10.

Try selling $300k at TEX, I bet the price of TEX will sink to $0.09

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It's time to sing... 0.20 is better than $0. 20% is really better than 0. I 'm sure you all can smell 0 now. All the upline keep pushing now, but they themself also can smell the 0 d.
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post Jan 26 2023, 08:20 AM

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It's easy math.

How to guess when the TRX price will experience total collapse.

Take the date of when the leaders accounts being block. Add 2 X cycle.

When all the leaders account are locked, they launch multiple new programmes that will generate more fake profit. Some client still believe and bout in more coin to participate in the higher return programm and upline are give more returns of 30-40-50%.

So when this program "buying time" programm matures and they realise it actually cannot cash out and TFX price didn't increase after that, this point will trigger TFX price mega collapse to $0.02
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post Jan 26 2023, 08:48 AM

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Wow, I saw their PDF being circulated to triumph investors. It explained so clearly.

1) withdrawals has exceeded the deposits caused the problem. The company which I explained acting as the price stabilizer in the old settlement system only has a buffer to sustain 2-3months of negative deposit condition. So now we know the company profit buffer only has 2-3months worth of negative cashflow on depo/WD.

2) the asset is non existence. There is no $10B held to back the asset. So even the price is $0.20 or $0.80 or $0.01, this is backed by buying demand that cause the price to be at the price. There will not be buying force when the price go to 0.05 because of the asset. There is only gambler at this point of time. Greedy people trying to gamble, not buying an asset.

3) they are right. This current drop to $0.25 as cause only by a minority investors. Imagine, minority investors dump can cause a drop to 0.25. what if, half-tority dump? I guess I don't need to mention Majority dump.

This post has been edited by vanguish: Jan 26 2023, 09:04 AM
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post Jan 26 2023, 09:22 AM

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IF the $10B existing, this would have happened:

1) The broker can liquidate the asset to USDT without banking limit with Tether directly or can cash out to USDT from LP.

2) A liquidation of 10% of asset will be able to solve the withdrawal bottleneck.

3) The company can paid all withdrawals by USDT before implementing TEX. Company already understand that the driving force of TFX price is base on "Demand". Confidence is everything in this ponzi.

4) During trading cycle, funds held in LP can be withdraw anytime. The pamm 5 weeks cycle is only a facility at the broker level. Broker can withdraw asset to fiat/usdt any time.

What company did was forcefully push all to TFX - TEX. This already means the asset is NON EXISTENCE.



Investors got confuse. GM trader are real people. Let me enlighten you with the chronology.

TFX company stated off as a Market Maker brokerage firm.

GM traders , Singliworld are one of their MIB running their own trader program earlier.

It is singliworld that showed the market maker the power of forex with multi tier referral bonus.

But the MIB (GM at that time) run real trading, so sometime they make money and sometimes the lost. When they experience big losses, all client withdrawal.

This hampered the growth of the broker.

In around 2015-2016, the company came up with a solution by introducing fake FM. Since Fake FM can provide fake wins all the time, this will cause the demand of deposit to grow every month without client withdrawals. The Ponzi started from this period, after the collpase of Singliworld. Yes the broker is 13 years, but it start off as a market maker model at that time.

Therefore, when client can see that GM trader are real people, they make assumptions at all other FM are genuine too. There a few genuine FM there, but not all those nikolai.. yuri...summer cloud etc.

This post has been edited by vanguish: Jan 26 2023, 09:24 AM
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post Jan 26 2023, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(TheLegend27 @ Jan 26 2023, 10:24 AM)
by the way, i see that some TFX investor is dentist, vet, lawyer, doctor, some is retired banker somemore. i must say that Triumphfx consider very success.

also there are a lot property agent also invest TFX.
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The investors are not dumb la. They know it's fake. Some just refuse believe it is Ponzi now because believing that will trigger PonziMeletop.com.

At the beginning maybe they think it might "be" real.

Anyway, greedy people is from all layers of the society... Including high educated lawyers..doctors..

Greed has taken control of logic.

Same to some of my friend keep holding on to stocks that has collapse and refuse to accept the reality.

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post Jan 26 2023, 11:59 AM

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Current demand still strong at $0.26. but i think this is fake demand and already include intervention from the company. It should have been much lower if allow to float freely base on demand. Maybe at this moment, $0.10
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post Jan 26 2023, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 26 2023, 12:13 PM)
Why would
a ponzi boss, of
a confirmed "collapsed" ponzi scheme
that has no real usd inside but "fake" digits,
that has already taken out all the real usd that had been deposited by the investors,
that has pushed the payout of real fiat usd to the holders of tfx coins to the sellers  to sell it in the open market,
Buyers buys from the sellers themselves and pay the sellers

(Why he) Need to support the price level of 0.26?
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HI,

"Support" that I meant was by interventions such as for example:

1) not allowing people to buy at price lower than a certain price. Theorically when u don't allow ppl buy at price below e.g. 0.25, the price will stagnant there.

2) not allow pending buy limit before current price(this they already implemented).

3) now allow people to place pending sell also. This limit will cause a fake price surge when ever there is buyer because current liquidity cannot be filled by pending orders.

Not necessarily the "support" means buying back the excess TFX with real usdt.
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post Jan 27 2023, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 27 2023, 08:26 PM)
i saw this from Triumphfxofficial FB page.

kind of very true indeed...

1 to 1 Buy back is not a dream, 1 TFX = 1 MYR

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Another 5-6weeks, new dream would be 1TFX = 1Baht.
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post Jan 28 2023, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(vanguish @ Jan 22 2023, 03:57 PM)
Maybe they can hire me as consultant ?haha.

Since I dont have the exact numbers I cannot make an accurate simulation.

I think there is still away to save the Ponzi. But the measure s are drastic and maybe they face a lot of resistance from the upupup - line leaders.

1) lock all USD capital, all fake deposit can no longer WD.

2) all profit to be paid by TFX only, only can sell at open market TEX at market rate

3) buang "the pop up buy back crap", replace with scammer reward system. If find you can new victims (e.g. $10k, I will allow you to cash out 10% at 10:1 for your capital locked).

4) stop all rubbish high return program for leaders that will make the situation worst since it create more fake USD/TFX that will further slide the demand

So this will reset the system, and the game can continue to run.

1) people can continue to cash out their profit via TEX at market rate, most likely will surge back to near 1.

2) locked capital, still got a way out if you willing to bring in new players (victims)

3) many ppl will come in play again (like reset)
China as stringent financial control over cash in bank there. Possibility those nett deposit they receive from China cannot be bring out completely also and they just return those money stucked in the bank there... Probably It's a new market that time, mostly new deposit at that time.

Or maybe this incident cause triumph fiat USD buffer to deplete.

No idea for sure...or maybe this deficit has been filled with clients rushing in to deposit to qualify for the Trip to Triumph Office in Cyprus. Hahahaha
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This has dragged too long. This is the only way to save the PonziMeletop now

Triumph need to lock everybody's capital immediately.

Capital can only we withdrawal with new recruitment or activation of new investment by a lower ratio, e.g. 1:10.

So everybody can sell the fake profit at TEX demand price, and new players can join in, game continues.

I think the company will lock all "fake capital" in system soon.

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post Jan 29 2023, 07:32 AM

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Another point to tell point out is that their FMs are totally fake is their profit sharing portion.

I don't think I'm this world there will be any FM that will accept such rate let alone FM with long good track records like theirs.

It simply make no sense in this world. 5% performance to FM ???? This is not even close to the industry standard. And usual story they will say their FM also can fund in $5M $10M $20M of their own fund, FM of that leverage want to work with you for 5% PF share?

You go google and find roadside FM also will ask for more than 5%

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post Jan 29 2023, 08:47 AM

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Looking from the business point of view, the daily pop up distribution should be limited only to the amount of fresh USDT being deposited to buy TFX the day before.

Probably, after Triumph take their cut of the USDT deposit, balance distribute via pop up to keep the wheel rolling.

It's not $10M fresh money from triumph, I think those data displayed are to manipulate people not familiar with blockchain only.
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post Jan 29 2023, 10:54 AM

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If the $10B asset are existence, they can even allow the member to trade themself. Right now their funds stucked
in the system have no option for manual trade also.

Since triumph is a broker. Why can't they allow client to do self trading with their fund
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post Jan 30 2023, 09:58 AM

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This morning, my friend told me that triumphFX had first informed them that the company would guarantee the buyback of 1:1 if the price fell below 1 after the conversion to TFX.

According to their most recent Facebook and Instagram posts, they seem say to guarantee 1:1 if the TFX price goes below 1. Can anyone still have faith in the company now that they have been deceived? I looked at their post from December 5; it does state that all investors will receive a 1:1 buyback minimum. https://fb.watch/imSEPSsraO/

Some IB may now be a hero for urging older investors to invest wisely and buy more now. However, those who believed this false information would be totally lost when everything collapses in a few weeks.

Even by taking extraordinary measures like locking the leader account, preventing withdrawals from particular accounts, and forbidding clients from setting pending buys below the going rate. More people want to sell than put deposit money.

You must comprehend the phases of a ponzi meletop. As of now, t he Ponzi scheme has already collapsed. As long as investors are willing to take a loss now, believers will continue to buy from them. All the losers will be consumed by the blind believer at the end of this ponzi.

We are looking at tops another 6 weeks to final ending. This is the final stage for believe to eat more losses before the final blow.
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post Jan 30 2023, 06:58 PM

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Existing investors find it difficult to accept the collapse of this ponzi business.

However, this ponzi has already collapsed when they are unable to honor withdrawals because of negative net cash flow (withdrawal request is more than new deposits).

We need to investigate study logically whether the Ponzi scheme can revive or not by looking at the data.

  Building a ponzi from scratch is simple because there is lots of room for expansion, which will generate net cashflow for the ponzi owner. But currently its like all effort for new deposit will go to making payment to old investors.

Their current solution is by introducing more fake products with bigger returns, but this won't save the Ponzi scheme, this merely delay the inevitable as next few weeks demands for withdrawal will grow. Even if TFX manage to get to $0.35 now, i think most investors will he more than happy to exit at $0.30-$0.40 region. By the data given, we are talking about exit of a BILLION RINGGITS OR MORE.

I don't see how the Ponzi can revive and prosper again to new heights unless there is a firm and solid way to pay out all the current pending withdrawal requests. Hmm, maybe the next milestone is $50 billion.

Yeah, it is stupid to sell at low price if there is light end of the tunnel. But this isn't the case for this ponzi scheme. It's already way too big, and effort to push the demand higher than the fake profits being generated now is kinda Mission Impossible.

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