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post Sep 10 2025, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 9 2025, 11:10 PM)
understand... the age part is good enough reason to have a low swr... its up to each what's a comfortable number to set despite the normal 4% advice (usually minus a bit for buffer)... although i think as one ages, that swr can be up'ed.

one thing for sure... I need my aircon... that itself is like 40 sen every hour... lol
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If ROI >7% n SWR 2%, barring any disaster/surprises, plan will last perpetually. And as your wealth compounding swr will be reducing. That is my target.
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post Sep 10 2025, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Sep 10 2025, 09:38 AM)
So all this SWR thing is on the savings/investment outside of EPF? Or purely EPF? If EPF it's almost impossible to hit 7%, right? If outside of EPF, there is almost no guarantee that one will be able to get >7% annually,  right?
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I am using all income generating liquid n illiquid assets.
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post Sep 10 2025, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Sep 10 2025, 11:37 AM)
The problem with stocks/ETF is you only get the money after you sell it and if you depends on the div even from S&P500 it's almost impossible to get 7%. If selling stocks what will be the strategy to withdraw using SWR?
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My plan is very simple, 50% (ASMx+EPF), 50% illiquid assets, ave ROI >7%, all in MY.
Withdrawal from ASMx.

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post Sep 10 2025, 07:11 PM

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QUOTE(Relianne @ Sep 10 2025, 06:33 PM)
What would consist of illiquid assets besides property?
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Land
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post Sep 12 2025, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Sep 12 2025, 01:57 PM)
any reason to hold on to the land? if its for capital appreciation, then ok to hold. else the standard thinking is that this is a unproductive use of capital.
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Land's capital appreciation generally can give >10% ROI, more if with development potential esp near major town/city.
If hardworking can utilise it to generate an additional 2%.

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post Sep 12 2025, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(GeekinE90 @ Sep 12 2025, 05:03 PM)
Home Flexi Loans are great tools for liquid cash.  Basically, if your home is worth RM2m, take the max loan financing e.g. RM1.7m for it and put it back the full RM1.7m cash from the loan into the current account linked to the loan and zerorize the loan. Meaning you pay zero interest on the loan and now have a RM1.7m credit facility on demand.  Some banks may charge you a monthly fee of RM10 for this type of facility, but its the cheapest facility for emergency liquid cash when you need it and you may have this facility for the tenure of your home loan.  Then top it back up again and zerorize the loan once more when fresh funds come in.
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Which banks allow this for retiree without active income?
PBB doesnt allow.

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post Sep 12 2025, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Sep 12 2025, 08:09 PM)
FIRE liao cannot even get credit card... unless private banking... lol...

refinance maybe possible if to banks advantage...
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Yeah should have applied for this facility n credit card b4 retiring. Thought FIRE is good enuf.
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post Sep 20 2025, 07:50 AM

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Not everyone can get the job they like or enjoy. If Ramjade gets the satisfaction of investment which seems to be giving him +ve returns most of the time n enuf for FIRE, he can just give up his regular job. Investment itself could then be the JOB.
Lately i have been told some has started to do like him, get a easy job but spend more time on investment. I think this is due to the current state of job insecurity n lack of opportunity. If u r in senior management n got retrench n cant get reemployed, can go do grab+ investment. If just graduated n while waiting to get employed, learn investing.
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post Sep 20 2025, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 20 2025, 12:30 PM)
The work I like won't be able to make money. Being a herbalist. Learning both traditional Chinese medicine and Indian medicine and using it.
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What is stopping u from being a herbalist instead of your current job? Not enuf passive income?
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post Sep 22 2025, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 22 2025, 08:05 AM)
You do know that that I have look and look. There is no way to increase income as a salaries person in my job. What I am earning ow is like max earning already. I will just keep it to that.

The only other way is start a business.

To me the job is a dead area. Can't get higher pay. Let me focus on my investment. That way I can maximise my investment returns by making money work as efficiently.
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From what I gathered, u seems to always profit from your investment, your capital appreciation + options profit always +ve? Total always trending up?
I got a friend who also did that but his portfolio balance is up & down. Everytime we met I like to ask him what is his Balance. It was up & down like 200k(Feb2024) >350k > 250k > 400k> 300K(April2025)> 600k(Aug2025) so in 20 months balance has grown 3x.
Why dont u quit your job n go into herbs n organic planting cos leasing land is quite cheap and needs low capital. Where r u located?
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post Sep 22 2025, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 11:32 PM)
Well diff ppl diff need but at least with better pay you will have more options and do not need to skimp

With better pay you can CHOOSE to skimp or not to

With low pay, you will have no choice or option to

As simple as that :grin:
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oh just to add on since you mentioned about hate on job & people

Everywhere you work there will definately be troublemakers which might include your direct superior so since you will need to endure why not endure with higher pay biggrin.gif
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Obviously Ramjade has found an efficient plan for his FIRE, n his job is not in this plan. If i were him i would ditch the job n concentrate full time on it. He should know better based on his results n age is on his side.
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post Sep 23 2025, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 23 2025, 12:01 AM)
It definitely helps if you can earn more money. It's basic maths. I won't dispute or argue that.

For FIRE to work needs the following
1. Salary earned
2. Additional income
3. Amount saved
4. How good is the investment
5. How early you want to retire
6. How much you are going to spend in retirement
Actually the cheat code was accidentally finding out about options. If not for options I think I would be very stressed today.

As I have practiced everything but dividend growth investing is a very slow process especially if you aim for 0.5%p.a dividend yield.
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Actually my friend has been encouraging me to look into options n his method is quite similar to yours except he is not into dividends. He is into good tech stocks n playing options with them. He is already rich with good paying job n company share options, some good properties n single. He also got to know about options 2 years ago from his subordinates. He is now thinking about quiting his good paying but stressful job. Seems like many GenY&Z in SG r into options n crypto.

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post Sep 23 2025, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 23 2025, 12:19 AM)
Many people even my colleagues don't even know all this basic thing. Make sure your basic is strong. That's what Iearn from ASSI.
I won't focus on tech stocks only because there are stocks that are non tech that give tech stocks return. Hence quality investing. It allows me to buy anything under the sun as long as they are high quality as long as interactive broker have access to them.
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I have lost touch with ASSI for many years, but i remember he is more into SG dividend stocks.
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post Sep 23 2025, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(coolguy_0925 @ Sep 22 2025, 11:55 PM)
Well

Since staying the father house need to follow his rule lah :grin:

No pay mortgage or rent then need to pay in another form, nothing is free

Nothing wrong ya.. hard to find such filiai son nowadays
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I hope my child has his drive to learn about investing n would support financially.
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post Sep 23 2025, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Sep 23 2025, 02:13 AM)
i dont wish my child going tru  Ramjade's job sufferings
then no need to do those options thingy to compensate

my priority is for them to have a good professional job
good pay starting at 5k and above
only need to   know how to save cukup

4-6% returns on savings no need skills
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I see it differently from u cos i believe there is very less job security n opportunity in the future. Many jobs will be contract or gig type. My child can afford to skip regular job n go straight into the investment way.

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post Sep 23 2025, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(126126 @ Sep 23 2025, 09:19 AM)
For most ppl the first pot of gold is the hardest to get. Where can u get the pot of gold other than from your work, unless daddykasi.
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Yes for my child it is daddy kasi. And we r holding hands to explore the stock investment option on top of my existing assets.
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post Sep 23 2025, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(126126 @ Sep 23 2025, 09:32 AM)
Curious, i assume u dont encourage/expect your children to work a regular job, do u at least expect them to get a “useful” uni degree or anything goes as long as they graduate? Or education too is no longer essential?
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Just graduated in Engineering. Chose this because local IPTA qualification is recognised overseas. Already rejected local job offer of 4k. Prefer SG but if toxic can afford to quit the company. Actually encouraged to go into biz.
There is currently a trend according to media youngsters have started to favour vocational education. In China some millions of graduates have gone to vocational reeducation after getting disillusioned with white collar jobs.

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post Sep 24 2025, 12:25 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 23 2025, 11:52 PM)
I got no sifu for job. I just take what is available for me. I got lots of sifu for investing which helps a lot. If not for my investing sifus I won't be here today.

So many people don't believe me, look down on me, don't care la. As Chinese saying (I think) as long as you know you are honest and do the right thing and do no harm, don't care.
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Yes I believe u r a very careful, cautious n successful investor, as shown by your investment performance. U have only yourself to answer, the rest r just noises. Keep it up, one day u might be doing better than many people. I am sure one day your dad will see your success n proud of your investment skill. Once u get your 1st few millions, b4 u know it your networth is enuf to last perpetually even for your children.
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QUOTE(126126 @ Sep 24 2025, 10:17 AM)
I believe everyone has read this before:

When you are young, u have time and health but limited money

When you are at prime working age, u have health and money but limited time

When you are old, u have money and time but limited health.
There is a period, a finite amount of years typically from your 50s (or 40s if you are top performer) to your early 70s, when you have all 3.  Those are the years to make the most of retirement.  Your body is still functioning well, you are (hopefully) comfortable with money, and retiring early gives u freedom of time.  We are blessed because cost of living here is extremely cheap compared to many other places worldwide. Quality vs price ratio is one of the best worldwide, thats why many foreigners are moving here.
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For Ramjade case he is young (30s) on the way to FIRE and live healthy lifestyle. By 40s still young but FAT FIRE n healthy lifestyle n winner.
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post Sep 30 2025, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 29 2025, 12:08 PM)
Yes I will make sure my family lives B40. This is to let them know the value of money so that they will appreciate the money when they are grown up.

Like captain America movie quote
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2...73b5be9892f78e2
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Lets say u achieve FATFIRE by 40yo, n your children just starting primary education, would u still live B40? Assuming by then u r still actively investing n profiting.

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