if i was thinking of buying a new mac book with intel C2D in it, but can window be installed in it...

yes you can, there is some application u need in macbook. BootCamp is one of it, u can get it free from Apple.com website. this application u need to shut down ur macbook to run the windows OS. Parallel Desktop, is one of this kind of application, but it can run windows OS during u using MacOS.

wow... sound kind of complicated.... can it be run only the windows without the mac os?? since it running on intel C2D

yes...when u use boot camp it runs only windows no osx...but why buy mac when u wanna run windows?

Bootcamp is installed in OSX , won't "deleting" OSX make bootcamp to be un-workable?

if you just want to use windows just choose other brand why complicated yourself, but if you want to try mac i welcome you with open arms

give her/him sometime. i have no doubt she/he will just dump the windows part after trying out mac and its OSX.

MacBook/MacBook Pro/iMac/Mac Mini/Mac Pro running on OS X with Parallels running on Windows XP and Ubuntu Linux rocks

that's what I am doing with my Macs

Need not buy an Apple and then run windows, sounds funny. I use Parellel and it works fine. After a while u would not want to run windows becos Mac is so much more better. It is course possible to run Windows only with Boot Camp where u have to partition the HD

what so funny about it?
after all Mac is all the computer u need..
can install Windows, Linux, and other operating system

well, not to say that Windows OS is not good..but you can run both on the system at the same time...some web applications will not run on Mac OS so I need to use back Windows to run on it. Using Coherence is the best!!!

The funny part is TS wants Windoze but not OSX ...

That must be quite some RAM you've got there to handle so many processes on your kernel

i run mac most of the time .
i just dont feel like going back to windows if there is no software limitation .
my coursemates who alwasys see me using macbook say they might get a mac becasue it seems to work very nice with the user and very user friendly .
i have to say , YES , it is very very user firnedly once u get used to it .
compared to xp , yes ... it works ddamn well ... more like a part of your soul .

anyway , i stil got parallels running becasue i still need some applications like Windows PowePoint ... i just scare some iwork elements wont fit on pp . i just run it maybe 1 in 1 month ? hehehe... just for some formal work on it . anyway , i just allocate 256mb for it only .

btw , i have to say , mac is really user friendly . dont listen to those crap who say mac is hard to use . the fact remains as they just dont feel like trying it out and they just too kepala keras.

oh my god!
can u do some research about it?

few sentences already complicated?
god?!

u are asking very wired question u know. why dont u drop by any mac store to check it out?
feel it!

1. Yes its possible
2. Unless you want a really expensive windows machine that will look good but run like any other windows machine I don't see the point
3. Refer to 2. But honestly once you use MacOSX and I mean like really get into it without bias, you will love it.
4. Why not use the Mac version of PowerPoint? I use it all the time and I have no problems sending files back and forth and collaborating with my windows using classmates.

Can do all no problem. Use Boot Camp or Parallels.

1GB for Mac OS X
1GB for Windows XP
1GB for Ubuntu Linux

This website address answers all

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

ok... i noob about mac... that's y i open this threat to know more bout mac stuff....
u know not every1 like "you" got that time to do all those reseaching....
y not ask some pro/mac users here to get some quick tips...
due to my job here i hardly got the time to get online and check on stuff/ reseaching.. (although i was working on IT line)
but i hardly involve with mac...
i have long heard about the adv of mac OS... but wat i really worry is on the compatible of gaming... (i quite a hardcore gamers sometimes )

@wildarms

dun worry and just ignore those people..

i agree with what u say..
sometimes, we just dun have the time to research everything...
but sometimes, i do have time to say a few words about those people..

For gaming, i think you better DON'T get a mac la, eventhough you can install windows in a mac machine.

Why?

Mainly cos you require to waste big $$ buying a mobility/laptop based machine, such as iMac or macbook pro, macbook is a no-no for gaming. You should know that mobility is pricey, yet low-performance especially for graphic card. In order to play smoothly(Btw, i speaking in hardcore gamer, not some light gamer), you need Mac Pro which is a workstation (yet it's Overpower cos of the 2 server processors). Just for your extra info, there ain't any desktop machine for mac, except Mac Pro.

If you are really a hardcore gamer, just forget about mac machine. That's my opinion. But if you got a generic desktop machine(for gaming), and you want try out mac osx, then you properly can get a mac machine.

yap.. maybe they just had too much time...

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Added on September 15, 2007, 5:57 pmthat's wat i wondering.. from wat i saw on the macbook pro .... it got a 8600m gc inside (or something similar).
but would it help it on going for gaming... or izzit for things like graphic designing stuff only...
and i think it wont help for gaming rite... coz not much game are develop for mac...

just curious

This post has been edited by wildarms: Sep 15 2007, 05:57 PM

Look mate , now there are many application that allows you to run Windows games on top of OSX . Plus you can always boot to windows and run those games

The graphics card is a gaming graphics card and it can take the latest and upcoming games. So you should not have a problem

well, in order to drop by to forum, post a new topic to ask question, waiting for replies
these take alot of time
doing research on this thing directly is even faster

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Added on September 16, 2007, 4:01 amto be honest, Mac system is a very bad gaming system u can own, whatever it is
price/performance for gaming is poor

better get yourself a q6600 + Ati HD2900Xt+ ASUS bliz strike special edition+............

This post has been edited by cRazYee: Sep 16 2007, 04:01 AM

thanks. it's just the answer i would like to hear
i think apple have done a great job in combining mac os and windows together. at least they wider their range of buyer on their system. a great choice on switching to intel too.
i always dream on owning a mac, but due to it compatibility to gaming and their pricey tag, i have to pull myself off on thinking about it....
but now u can own 2 different system in 1 macbook (kind of ) it's pretty cool.... and i wont mind paying extra money for it... since i can get the best on both on both world....

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Added on September 16, 2007, 4:47 amactually i prefer getting online and do stuff on internet more... gaming is just when i found some game i really like or at least got something to play when i was at home/bored. and the place i living doesn't hav broadband connection. so with a macbook, at least i can get wireless connection in a restoran or a cafe when i feel wan to.... buying a pc is not going to help much....

1 more thing... window vista hav been launch for almost a year i think... but i still can imagine wat window vista future is going to be like....
if the mac os leopard is coming out soon... i think windows vista should change the name to windows Snail.... with 2gb of 667mhz ram installed, it still nothing faster than a turtle..... and the security is all crap.....

This post has been edited by wildarms: Sep 16 2007, 04:47 AM

@wildarms, the main point is depending which type of games you want to play. If you love to play FPS(First person shooter) then any laptop or mobility is not your choice for gaming. Better get a desktop machine, which is much cheaper and powerful.

Only newer mac machine(Intel mac) can install windows via bootcamp. Others like parallels, vmware or crossover are all virtualization(emulating OS ontop of mac osx) softwares.

Well, no harsh meant. i mean harm.
It's good to know someone else is willing to take that step into something totally new.
Just in case you dont know.

Mac runs OSX.
Parallels, Vmware, Bootcamp, these stuff, offers alternative above OSX.

Which means you can still run windows, linux, and all other OS while in the same time you can even run OSX.
The simplest idea is this,

when you want a window, you will get everything else but Mac, (of course there are exeptions like those Hackintosh)
when you want a mac, let's put it this way. you will get everything that you will ever need. and that's assuming you are not those hackers out there who configure their own OS.

and best of all, a new experience.

and i still run windows at some point just to use the softwares that mac is lacking, but that doesnt mean i can play hardcore games on it.
like those fps based games, you will usually give up playing once you tried it, it's just unplayable. Simple games like 2d and simple 3d games, may be. but that will depends on what machine you are choosing.

I'm interested to get an imac since it is more affordable these days and having dual boot (Windows XP & OSX) would certainly be what I'd like to have.

Primarily, I'd run OSX but if I need to run some games or having compability issues, etc, I can always turn to Windows.

My question is, do I have to purchase "Boot Camp" or is it free? How hard is it to get softwares in Low Yat/Imbi Plaza for Mac? *if you get what I mean*

Boot Camp will be bundled together with Mac OS X Leopard or you can download it from Apple's site

This post has been edited by Zero-Enna: Sep 27 2007, 07:33 PM

hard to get pirated 1, because it is free!
u can download from apple website. currently the latest 1 is bootcamp 1.4

VMware fusion and parallel desktop have to purchase
parallel desktop is RM 288.
how about KL site?

Thanks but what is this "Parallel Desktop" is for?

Parallel Desktop is when u want to run BOTH Mac OSX and Windows at the same time.
Its an alternative to Bootcamp, when u can only run either OSX OR Windows.

Ok, Parallel Desktop sounds really interesting and I guess having 2GB of RAM would be good enough to run both OS at the same time

boot camp is very straight foward, download it from apple website

but i suggest you to wait a little longer, coz the new OSX 10.5 aka "leopard" will be released very soon and the final version of bootcamp is bundled with it.

This post has been edited by gigaforce: Oct 3 2007, 03:46 AM