I heard many people recommend to install for your car.

So is it effective in reducing body roll and improve safety or just placebo effect ?

U mean remove back seat and add antiroll bar?

topup abit got kancil

Nope

To me the biggest difference on my Honda City is the ARB. The tower strut and lower strut macam no feel.

The ARB immediately can feel the difference in handling.

They see me rolling, they hating.

the only 2 bar u ever need is front strut bar and ARB

anything else, i just don't see any advantage for normal driving

im sorry but what is ARB ?

Anti roll bar bang

ARB is Anti Roll Bar. Its attached to your rear suspension.

improve handling a bit la

Anti-Roll Bar

thanks.

Placebo

how many decades later still ppl ask about this

depends on the car, if sampan car then might help

if car already got good handling in the first place then not really

if it is good. then it will already be included stock..

yes, it maybe improved in certain aspect but it will sacrifice on another i.e comfort.

This post has been edited by brkli: Sep 21 2021, 02:59 PM

Under Normal driving, cant feel different.
I believe it make your ride more stiffer and sacrifice comfort

Sorry but need to ask first cause i was quoted near RM 750...

If it does not help , then i dont want to waste my money.

Yes, UR is biggest scammed company ever, selling expensive steel with ehite paint.

If it is effective till you feel it, then it may just become a std. item.
Here we are looking at deminishing returns.

You mean Anti roll bar to reduce body roll??

Never underestimate the cheapskate and cost-cutting of big manufacturers.

Even if doing something can save just 10cents while at the cost of driving experience or safety, manufacturers will still not hesitate to do so.

They label it as safety bar stage 1

ok la, body roll got reduced abit.
the less sampan feeling, the better for it to me.

even toyota and nissan service center offering it, it might do at least something.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Sep 21 2021, 03:07 PM

you ask yourself.. do you drive you car at high speed an take cornor like everyday of your driving time?? or you just drive like what ia taught at driving school, slow down when taking corner.

if you drive like a manaic, it maybe can help reduce the body roll when u taking sharp corner at high speed.

also if you dun mind that ride get slightly harsher (not so comfort) when u drive normally as u connect your suspension which is intended to operate slightly loose/independant for comfort purpose...

Better opt for a stiffer suspension than depending on some bar that claim to have magical effect.

I'm not installing one but many of my fren mentioned it does improved the handling and body roll especially in MPV.

But you'll lose a bit of comfort for the passenger.. the car will feel a bit stiff, like soft suspension vs hard one. So, choose one

Install on Anh20, very good stability n less roll

u go racing is it?

what car and what are you doing to it

Only ARB
But it makes ride uncomfortable, that's why OEM don't use thick ARB.

I was about to ask. Haha.. Thanks for the info.

Yes, pls install, the rear stabilizer is very important. U will feel the difference.

Which one to install again? front and back? not full set rite.

Shop called it stage 2,
rear stabilizer bar,
the 2 small bar near the rear,
front frame,
engine mounting bar

I didn't install front stabilizer bar as the shop told me the original is thick enough...

it does improve ; but if your car by default already roll here n there

might as well change car

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Sep 21 2021, 03:55 PM

it always reminds me of that bezza full of bars end up in longkang

Might as well use that money to buy better tyres

top up abit for uhp tyres.

if everything also included, the price would be unaffordable

just like how normal car won't be included due to cost
but you'll see it in the GTI or R3 or special edition of the same car

the reason u see it in those car and not the "normal" edition is not the cost. is because it makes the car uncomfortable. same like lowered ride, low profile tyre and etc..

if it is really good all round, the highest spec car surely will include, just like things like VSC, auto cruise and etc...

also those car price a higher sometimes not because install separate bar or what. is because it is not really mass production like the other (produce in lesser unit) due to the special settings and side installation (lowered ride, larger rim, low profile tyre, reinforce chassis) and this increase the cost..


inb4, if you reall want a stable cornering and/or sports oriented car while still remain "some" comfort, get one with double wishbone or multi link rear suspension. not torsion beam slap with an anti roll bar...

This post has been edited by brkli: Sep 21 2021, 05:00 PM

No you dont need it for normal everyday driving.

All those strut bars etc do help to a certain extent. But, the real issue is with the spot welding, this is what cause your chassis to flex.

Imho, arb and front strut is enough.

Regarding suspension... No, you do not need multilink nor double wishbone. Torsion beam works very well, esp. With a watts-link. One of the best eg. Is the chevrolet cruze.

Buat chasis rosak je....

Highway sini 110km/j, normal road 70-80km/j, suburb road 60km/j , Bridge 70-80km/j, before toll 90km/j , after toll 90km/j

Berape laju boleh pi? Need ultra racing?

For me I will go with bilstein b8 and superpro polyethylene control arm bush

kereta kalau roll tu mcm mana? what does ARB actually do? force push the tyre down for consistent contact to ground?

If ur car is b segment or price lower than 90k okla

Dsegment or conti...i dun think so got ppl install

u sure about that

u have to know how stingy car manufacturer are
they're so stingy, they're willing to remove 1 or 4 roof handle just because it cost them extra few RM(u can also say it's not needed )
but it's the same concept
knowing how expensive those bar are, they're not gonna put it in unless necessary to maximize profit

and having a bar on doesn't make it "unconfortable"...it just made it flex a lot less
comparing a car with lots of body roll vs a car with less body roll..which one is more uncomfortable?

This post has been edited by MR_alien: Sep 21 2021, 05:16 PM

Proton saga ada free anti roll bar

After full set of UR, the car became a tank LOL

Did that to my previous CRV but took off back.... too stiff sakit buntut

Lol, human error, over confidence

obviously you do not really know the whole thing on "adding a bar" to a torsion beam suspension. the so call body roll is when u do cornering, when the left and right suspension are unequal, the anti roll bar help to balance by adding a "stiffer" link between those 2.. but if u not cornering, and drive on straight malaysia uneven road, then it would be harder for the suspension to move freely due to a stiff bar connecting the left and right (same thing with you change to harder suspension or spring) and then u are the one to absorb it and hence the uncomfortable..

if you can reduce body roll during cornering and at the same time improve comfort(especially driving on uneven roads) by having stiff suspension or making the suspension "stiffer" with a torsion beam, I think u can go an patent it, surely can go rich..

This post has been edited by brkli: Sep 21 2021, 05:29 PM

I would say combination of all, lousy driver, sampan car and sampah bar

That one i think is front struct bar

more like human stupidity. they think they are smarter than the automotive engineer who design the car for normal commute use, not track/racing use..

you know early generation myvi? those came from factory without anti roll bar.. faham2 la right

i think some people dont know that alot of car came with factory anti roll bar. aftermarket roll bar are thicker ja.

This post has been edited by ihavenoidea: Sep 21 2021, 05:36 PM

got stage 1 cukup already

If install in Axia, really can see difference...car more stable while driving in highway...cornering more planted

Installed on Myvi, a world of difference, definitely not placebo.

But the butt hurts because it makes the car very stiff.

layman understanding.. sounds like it is intentional? i mean u *cant be sitting straight while car is moving like not possible..

This post has been edited by Jenn77: Sep 21 2021, 05:40 PM

Install on mpv will improve handling abit? Felt like sampan when pek cornar.

Even if the car don't roll, your body senget also

Good god. The amount of misinformation on this thread is crazy.

Anti roll bars are attached to the bottom of your control arms. When one side leans on cornering load, the opposite pushes in inside wheel down. This helps limit roll...but also makes the suspension "less independent" (since you tied your suspension together). Yes a bigger antiroll bar can impact ride comfort and could also make the car handle too sharply for inexperienced drivers on the road.


These ultra bars are chassis stiffeners. They are not anti roll bars.

Do they work? Yes. A stiffer chassis will handle better as it takes the works of the suspension from dealing with chassis flex.

However it is usually useless for road cars. Some chassis flex is needed for comfort. If you need chassis stiffening like this for your old car, likely all the chassis welds are broken. Better buy a new car instead.

Really if you really must add these things, a front 3 point tower brace and rear strut brace is all you need....any more you better weld in a roll cage.

Manufacturers are trying to make cars as light as possible and we keep on adding in more weight.

Of course it does bit stiffer ride, i prefer leave car as stock as possible .

yup, add more bars and weight to car, drive and corner like maniac.. then complain why no comfort, no fuel economy..

This post has been edited by brkli: Sep 21 2021, 06:02 PM

If you pek corners here & there, everyday like takumi...then install the bars.

If not, use money to install nicer ICE.

yeah fark msian and the H T N jap shits for making cars lighter and lighter, with msians drivers esp gen Y and Z kopi lesen style, the mortality and morbidity from accident is very high in our country.

because of all these discounts of steels

This post has been edited by Jedi: Sep 21 2021, 06:29 PM

Yet you complain old car no power and makan minyak.

Cars now are generally safer than tin Milos of yesteryear.safety equipment and stronger steels actually adds weight, but kept in check or balanced by new materials and construction methods.

Remember the old saga was under 800kg and the wira under 1000kg for the lightest models. They were far far lighter then. Same goes to other 80s Honda's and Toyota's which where just over 1T for equivalent models.

I look at the tayar i wanna laugh 😂