1) Cruise control does have LSF but no stop go. Just have to click up and it'll reactivate back. I don't really use it as it's quite harsh in stop go traffic.

2) Purely camera

No need v spec, lowest e spec already have Honda sensing that have ACC with LSF and stop go works with a catch, pair with brake hold and you need to tap accel to go.
No reset of cruise control is needed
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Random fun note: this car ACC corners like a champ
(Not for the faint of heart cuz it will whack the throttle as the front car clears to the left or right direction LOL)

This....is heart attack inducing.... and also gives you direct access to insurance claims.

still straight road ma... i definitely take more thrills cornering
not that it doesn't slow down... it basically determined that the road ahead is clear of vehicles (and/or it no longer locks the vehicle in front) and it will try to maintain the speed i set (which is 60...trying to corner with that speed from 10-20 stop go LOL)

but yeah aside a few quirks, overall it is ok.
i'll be honest and say it isn't smooth, but there's many ways you can mitigate or work around that, such as:
1) using accel pedal to brake
2) constantly adjust the distance setting to accommodate when the car should slow down and /or stop, such as
a. further distance if the car is smoother moving over 10-20kph
b. shorter distance if the car is coming to a stop like traffic lights

best, is still to self test drive and self determine/judge/decide

I've driven both X50 and Civic. I would say X50 ADAS (or whatever they term it) is slightly more refine than Honda's especially the ACC. Civic's ACC is livable but not very pleasant in day to day traffic. It's harsher than how X50 accelerate and brake. X50 is more gradual.

Also X50's LKAS works at slow speed (if I rmb correctly), Civic's one works only above 72km/h, so you will still need steering input.

yeah, because fortunately the civic accel pedal is sensitive enough to read in the slightest of inputs, and upon reading any throttle input, ACC is "paused" acknowledging human intervention.
and if the accel is so minimal that is not enough to carry the entire 1.3+ tons, engine braking happens and basically the car slows down without even actually braking with brake pedal (that cancels off ACC).

technically still lacking on hardware - radar
and maybe because (among other reasons, only can assume or guess as Honda Malaysia still tight lip about this matter) the lack of radar cannot integrate with camera, the funny honda sensing bug plaguing civics occur LOL
(can refer my older post(s), and other members' posts within this thread about this)

hmm there should be other cars, like Toyota Corolla Altis?
i can't remember if Mazda have any of these features. (IINM No.)

yes, fuck yes Sedan. lol  :thumbsup:

if you want an all round better package sedan with ACC + LSF, Toyota Corolla altis does it better.
Lane Keep works down to near zero km/h - Honda needs 70km/h and above.

Subjectively speaking just ACC - I feel Altis is better too.
To be honest, LSF in Civic is useable at start from zero and stop again from very low speed (maybe under 40km/h). This it can do. But once it reaches ~50km/h and above you are going to want to standby at brake  because it WILL allow a big gap ahead, then sense that there is a big gap, and then it WILL ACCELERATE LIKE HELL to whatever top speed you set. In a stop start situation, the car ahead brakes from say 70km/h to 0 and your Civic will happily blast to 70km/h, realize its damn late and apply very powerful braking. Not to mention by the time there is a big gap, other cars will come slotting in, and your car will not yet have time to react in a smooth manner. I've not had it crash yet thank God but it will make you wet your pants.

All in - after 2-3 times trying you will give up. So, yes you can do LSF. But the transition to HSF is hairy. HSF should only be used in highways when you DONT expect to stop to zero. 100-0 by autonomous driving almost guarantee pee in the pants.

but will X50 brake from 70 to 0 abruptly or smoothly? When i say smoothly meaning almost the same as the car in front, when I say abruptly (in Civic's style) is it will only start braking almost at the time the car in front completely stop....meaning to say you will be panicking for sure.

Thanks.. I’m confused..
Meaning every time the civic comes to a complete stop:
1. Cruise control turn off by itself, I need to press acc button to reactive cruise control, or
2. Cruise control hibernates, I need to Step on the acceleration pedal when the car ahead moves, the cruise control shall continue then?

After reading other comments it seems like the civic ACC system is less refined as proton X50 & Corolla altis?

if the car in front, say 10 car lengths driving at 70 and encounter a red traffic light. It will brake to a stop, and a human driver usually will see far ahead and stop gradually from 70 to 0.

The following civic on ACC, if it reach the pre-set speed say 70, will maintain 70. it will only start braking when the set distance of 10 car lengths is reduced to maybe 5 car lengths, then only it will start to decelerate. But because it didnt try to maintain 10 car lengths at all times, and only act after 5 car lengths gone, it is already very close, and at high speed difference.

by the time it starts braking from 70 to 0, it really lost any gap, you may come to standstill from a shocking speed and gap in the end.
i think the best way to illustrate this is either a live video which will endanger the occupants or i simulate with a lego / toy car haha.

Actually yes Civic is similar if not same.
It probably is a bit abrupt/harsh in favour of safety (to not kiss the car in front lol)
And Honda stock Ori brakes generally have higher initial bite (to let people know their brakes damn cun or something lol) that THANK GOD is no longer the case on the Civic FE lol

It does gradually stop
And yes it has an indicator showing it is locking/following a car in front (fully white filled car logo) as opposed to empty car logo or no car at all.
Perhaps not as clear like X50 (I haven't got the chance to try one, maybe allergic to SUV lol, previous excuse was pandemic ) having colour changes as well.

Similarly i believe both X50 as well, it'll be weak to handle sudden cut in/slot vehicles or motorcycles that the car may tend to trigger AEB that can brake quite harshly especially if your set distance in front is far/maximum gap or distance.

Again, Civic is only L1 autonomous.
X50 L2

Both systems are only semi auto and will require driver intervention. So naturally with that expectation, I'm more amused, surprised and happy of what it can do when it's being done right. (Expectations low/managed accordingly, lol)
Like how the car whacks low speed junction cornering, or almost auto pilot the entire highway drive from Melaka to KL.

Those are really really nice and takes off a lot of energy and stress on long distance commuting that i wish my own car has (but I'm ok as well as what it lacked, it made up in fun, enjoyment and speed)

Yes on first question

No, it 'sees' the car just it doesn't want to brake in sync with car in front, it is against your natural human instinct which is to follow and coast along. Instead the Civic is like fully expecting the car ahead to accelerate later.

TLDR, Civic ACC, if following a car ahead from ~70 to 0, it will brake damn late and you will swallow some spit.

can honda hybrid run parallel?  meaning power mode,  e motor and engine run together..  basically cost to run a hybrid is higher,  cost to own higher,  maintenance cost higher (more complicated system).  in term of fuel cost saving is not obvious as hybrid car still more expensive to own one here.
good thing is u able to help reduce carbon emission..

Lane keep assist do not need 72kmh to work, it can work at lower speed.

Nice.. any indication when you’ll get the car? Saw on fb the car official launching in mid November

I see, thanks for the sharing. And this civic might got active noise control and active sound control also, shud be same like thai version.

That's the artificial engine noise from the speakers. Its a hate it or love it affair for some

probably because of the ANC, thus the cabin noise is better than HRV? some ppl love it lol, vtec-ish sound  luckily it only at sports mode.

not sure also does it retain the ambient lighting. hopefully it change from red to blue also. Seriously not sure why ppl dig red. also the thai version seems like their DRL is bluish on the brochure, not sure in real is how lol. hopefully they bring all those over.

Im first in my SA dealer to book lol. The booking form write end nov estimate delivery 😂 dunno real or not haha.

No see thai one also, but ours similar with eu just some features la, some eu don have full digital instrument too i saw the review youtube. The switch by wire is pretty neat la but we dont have that here it was on x50 x70 already some time lol. The traffic jam one here is actually just need self click resume when come to full stop, correct me if im wrong.

This is the only Thai english review i can find. Not very detailed review also

Out of the 4 the only thing that I care is the wireless charger.

Actually whats so great about the full digital meter cluster? Can anyone explain to me?