QUOTE(Cavino @ Aug 2 2023, 08:44 AM)
Haha....admittedly I'm buying into the marketing but not of Honda directly. This is actually the first time, I bought heavily onto it, not becoz of honda but based on many external video reviews and articles.
I can't differentiate handling and power in your real handling detail sense.
Really no interest in the detailed exploration of what handling actual is but lean more towards the overall enjoyment of casual sedan driving. Like I enjoyed the Civic FD driving feel on the steering vs Persona vs City, more road feel, more response. fast speed stable, higher speed cornering stable, no buang feel but anymore than that, I'm a layman. I can feel the difference but ask to tell in detail, err...I feel the difference...Hehe.
I think most layman who knows very little about car but enjoyed driving for years might have same view (my own 2 cents only). Cakap besar with casual driver ok, of course become mouse in front of car enthusiast.
I also have been wondering the contrasting 10mm lowered center point of gravity vs 2mm increase height....It does not make sense to me. I'm been joking with my wife, does that mean like those overweight thing, the center of the car bend downwards like too heavy in middle, so more stable lor???? But why honda say that as an improvement on stability?
Maybe I used the wrong terms and wording when viewed by a person who really knows what driving is but as a casual driver, for me handling means more road feel, quicker, more precise response on steering, higher stability on high speed and cornering. Power means pickup (torque kuah) and high speed acceleration still got energy to go further. That's enuf for my understanding. Don't let me talk to car enthusiast on this, its like a primary student talking to a teacher...feel so....small and my earlier talk all become like big wording with no shit understanding.
As for believing in marketing, I falls more towards the reviewers (video and articles), magazine reviews, youtube reviewers. Might be paid, might be real. When ALL the car reviewers says the exact same thing, except for the price and for some, the seat lack of sufficient cushioning, the car is really better in driving than RS, more pickup, the instant torque even on highway drive acceleration, better more stable cornering feel from someone who reviews lots of cars. That YS Khong guy say the same, those car magazine like WAPCar, Paultan, Pistonshow, etc and many individual reviewers, both locals and foreign (might be different setup oversea), say the same, some might be paid but many seems honest with some complaint but still the same view on the mentioned improvement. I'm bought and I don't think its just marketing unless all of them are paid to say good things only. I have rarely seen so many reviews harping on the same improvement with little complaints, so you can't blame me for being excited about it. I did not buy into the save FC thing tho...at least for a highway driver like me.
For CRV eHev reviews also I see, at least oversea with different trim but more into the engine performance of turbo vs eHev on driving feel, improvement and whether worth it or not. That one has split views...Civic eHev are one of those rare few without one. That is one of the reason I shift my buy target to Civic eHev. Anyway still waiting for CRV and I don't think the expected price hike will be favourable, tot maybe, hope 5% increase only but then now Australia release also say massive hike..haiz... Still talking about it coz still long wait till end of year, so I'm likely going to be around talking shit with long post (many shit to say, maybe no or wrong substance..haha) until I bought one or give up.
Might even rethink budget by end of year (the more we wait, the more we think), maybe go for BYD Atto3 hahahaha...really. I still don't trust 3rd party importer or distributor in long term servicing and commitment. Might still consider an EV a few years down the road if hype still persist and infrastructure and car range availability with affordable pricing is here.
Haiz...after think think, maybe I no buy car. 8 years down the road, take grab instead. No joke...economy not so good..

Click on the fb link few post back and take that white civic 2.0 then you can stop thinking already 🤣🤣I can't differentiate handling and power in your real handling detail sense.
Really no interest in the detailed exploration of what handling actual is but lean more towards the overall enjoyment of casual sedan driving. Like I enjoyed the Civic FD driving feel on the steering vs Persona vs City, more road feel, more response. fast speed stable, higher speed cornering stable, no buang feel but anymore than that, I'm a layman. I can feel the difference but ask to tell in detail, err...I feel the difference...Hehe.
I think most layman who knows very little about car but enjoyed driving for years might have same view (my own 2 cents only). Cakap besar with casual driver ok, of course become mouse in front of car enthusiast.
I also have been wondering the contrasting 10mm lowered center point of gravity vs 2mm increase height....It does not make sense to me. I'm been joking with my wife, does that mean like those overweight thing, the center of the car bend downwards like too heavy in middle, so more stable lor???? But why honda say that as an improvement on stability?
Maybe I used the wrong terms and wording when viewed by a person who really knows what driving is but as a casual driver, for me handling means more road feel, quicker, more precise response on steering, higher stability on high speed and cornering. Power means pickup (torque kuah) and high speed acceleration still got energy to go further. That's enuf for my understanding. Don't let me talk to car enthusiast on this, its like a primary student talking to a teacher...feel so....small and my earlier talk all become like big wording with no shit understanding.
As for believing in marketing, I falls more towards the reviewers (video and articles), magazine reviews, youtube reviewers. Might be paid, might be real. When ALL the car reviewers says the exact same thing, except for the price and for some, the seat lack of sufficient cushioning, the car is really better in driving than RS, more pickup, the instant torque even on highway drive acceleration, better more stable cornering feel from someone who reviews lots of cars. That YS Khong guy say the same, those car magazine like WAPCar, Paultan, Pistonshow, etc and many individual reviewers, both locals and foreign (might be different setup oversea), say the same, some might be paid but many seems honest with some complaint but still the same view on the mentioned improvement. I'm bought and I don't think its just marketing unless all of them are paid to say good things only. I have rarely seen so many reviews harping on the same improvement with little complaints, so you can't blame me for being excited about it. I did not buy into the save FC thing tho...at least for a highway driver like me.
For CRV eHev reviews also I see, at least oversea with different trim but more into the engine performance of turbo vs eHev on driving feel, improvement and whether worth it or not. That one has split views...Civic eHev are one of those rare few without one. That is one of the reason I shift my buy target to Civic eHev. Anyway still waiting for CRV and I don't think the expected price hike will be favourable, tot maybe, hope 5% increase only but then now Australia release also say massive hike..haiz... Still talking about it coz still long wait till end of year, so I'm likely going to be around talking shit with long post (many shit to say, maybe no or wrong substance..haha) until I bought one or give up.
Might even rethink budget by end of year (the more we wait, the more we think), maybe go for BYD Atto3 hahahaha...really. I still don't trust 3rd party importer or distributor in long term servicing and commitment. Might still consider an EV a few years down the road if hype still persist and infrastructure and car range availability with affordable pricing is here.
Haiz...after think think, maybe I no buy car. 8 years down the road, take grab instead. No joke...economy not so good..
But my skeptical point of view on a full EV, long run is a huge NO NO. I don’t know about BYD battery replacement price but if you’re talking about long run, replacing that huge ass battery probably can cash buy you a City. Some might say battery prices might go down, but image a world with more technologies and more batteries are needed, probably demand will still be higher than supply.
Besides, why wait 30min at petrol station when you can do it in 5? 😆
Aug 2 2023, 09:18 AM

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