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nihility
post Sep 24 2021, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Wanie404. @ Sep 8 2021, 03:33 AM)
My neighbour house almost on fire last time due to wire melt while using some appliances , i think microwave.

Since this is very old house on taman area.. very long time ago
Wiring also start aging too

Guys, can suggest what wire to use that good handling appliances like aircond, hair dryer, washing machine, water heater etc

I want to adviced those nice folks on this wiring issue.. but i no idea to say

Plz help
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Highly likely it is due to the over current. The normal 13A plug point may not be suitabe for the microwave. If the microwave is rated at 15A or 20A but the appliances was plugged into 13A SSO, it will coz the trouble.

For the wiring, as long as the product have the Sirim certificate, it should be safe for usage. On the wiring size selection, better get the advice from the certified wireman. Cable size selection to be selected according to the rated MCB rating.
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post Sep 25 2021, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Sep 25 2021, 01:36 AM)
Also DB box component like RCD, MCB can fail over time so for those >30 years already time to change lah. If planned right, medium (28 way) full DB box incl metal box should be 500-600 parts costing with ABB stuff. Hager also good but their RCD mahal sikit, so I usually do ABB.
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Only the electrical engineer will appreciates thing like ABB & Hager. For the normal consumer, the product price will takes the highest precedence as long as it is common in the market.
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post Sep 25 2021, 07:17 AM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Sep 9 2021, 10:59 PM)
If you want to do the work yourself, then I suggest you buy the wires by the roll, and not try to buy the exact length of cables you need. If there is extra cable, then just accept it as a loss and sell the extra to electricians, or to recycle centre.

You don't have to buy all the cables at once; buy 14 rolls*, use, and continue buying as you run out. It just means you have to make more trips to the shop/Sh.pee/Laz.da, but your excess wires will be minimum at the end.

You can try and estimate if you can save money as compared to hiring an electrician. NOTE : This is not a price quote.
First socket point = RM 150
Loop additional socket point from the first one = RM 100
First light point = RM 100
Loop additional lighting point from the first point = RM 70
Fan point = RM 100
Water heater point = RM 300
Air cond point = RM 200
Door bell point = RM 200
Auto gate = RM 450
Change DB = RM 1500
Take into account what your time is worth, and if you have the skills, manpower, and equipment, to take on this job yourself, and decide if it is worth it to you.

* 1.5 mm² = 1 x red, 1 x yellow, 1 x blue, 2 x black, 2 x green = 7 rolls. Add the same colours for 2.5 mm² wire for a total of 14 rolls
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These rate, almost can fight with JKR's published rate already but JKR's specification is very stringent, I doubt normal housing will use such specification, in other word, it looked pricey to me.
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post Sep 25 2021, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Sep 25 2021, 08:43 AM)
As I have always said, the low-class customer always looks at price first. Even the "YouTube famous" Malaysian solar installer says the same, and gives pointers on how to spot them.

What makes you think a qualified, competent electrician won't be using proper materials and proper installation procedures to complete their contract?

That is the flaw in your conclusion. You are confusing your opinion on being a cheapskate with reality. Quality customers actually look at quality-of-job first, price second. Even if funds are short, they will try to stretch, because quality, both for materials and installation, is worth paying for in the long run.

But anyway, it is a free market, and you are free to think the "bawah pokok electrician" is great, if that is what fulfills your needs.
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There are just too many this kind of consumers.

JKR's specification slightly different, they specified G.I conduit / accesories , whereas in normal private sector, the conduit used will be high impact UPVC. This difference alone will make a significant different to the cost. Both G.I or high impact UPVC are proper materials, only the cost will be difference. Perhaps the price of material really increases so much already at present time from last year to this year alone, otherwise I really still cannot digest the cost.

Kawan, most of the time in the market, the competent electrician "loan" out their license, the one who carry out the work will maximise the profit coz the license not their , $$ is their primary objective.

Hahaha, I really hope I'll be wrong on the perception on the consumers behavior, like I stated, only the person with the knowledge of this field will appreciate quality jobs & willing to pay the fair price for it. Those who are not, most of the time they cannot accept it.

This post has been edited by nihility: Sep 25 2021, 02:28 PM

 

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