6000 and above too glaring for me.

used 4000 for whole house

Mine depends on area and task (mix of task lighting, accent/decor light and ambient/general light)

General for living & bedroom: 3500k or 3000k (warm light that looks cozy and comforting without being too harsh)

General for bathroom & kitchen: 4000k (bright light that lets me see things clearly but not so cold that it's too clinical)

General for study/home office & laundry yard: 6500k (coldest temp in the house, allows brightest contrast and promotes alertness, but this kind of brightness will disrupt sleep patterns so better not spend too many late study/work sessions).

Accent/decor lights (only in bedroom and living): 1000k to 2500k (still on warm spectrum so won't clash if turned on with the warm general lights on as well, gives a soft intimate glow if used without general lights).

Task lighting in kitchen: 4500k (specific for under overhead-cabinet lights to see countertop/hob while doing kitchen things)

hi guys , i been looking around LED downlight , recently seeing alot of RM6-8 LED downlight with SIRIM , is that they are good enough as long as got SIRIM?

some recommend me MEGAMAN brand around RM16-19 per unit


i not sure those brand actually make huge diff?

Basically led lights around Rm6-8 , even tho Rm16-30 also made in China.
Maybe about lifespans on 6-8 lesser a year and make sure buy extra light bulb to keep for spare

those expensive can tahan ke? i last time using the Perfect One brand around Rm20-30 without sirim one , some also can't tahan more than a year , some become dim too , now my "perfect one" spare unit LED already finish replace those broken LED , just recently try search shopee/lazada and found out alot of SIRIM LED nowaday RM6-9

maybe i buy 2pcs to try it out?

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jun 23 2024, 05:05 PM

Get those better ones from PHILIPS, surely you will not regret it. Basic PHILIPS MESON are good enough for most homes. Discerning owners will want to try something like PHILIPS DN027- comes with 3-Year Warranty amd low power.
Eg.
PHILIPS MESON D150 1200lm = 17W
PHILIPS DN027 D150 1300lm = 12W

my friend told me last time philips is good , but nowaday de philips quality macam not so good already

the best downlight. IMO lah. is the E27 bulb holder, and get E27 LED bulbs from IKEA. Little known secret, IKEA makes the best affordable LED bulbs, with CRI >90 and very good efficiency beating all major lighting brands such as Philips, Osram and Megaman.

All these LED downlight.. during removal you need to remove from plaster ceiling is troublesome, and may damage the plaster ceiling. Using E27 can easily unscrew/screw and you are done.

That's my honest opinion after having installed led downlight. For home setting, overall I prefer 3000k as it is more comfortable, with the exception of kitchen where I have 4000k task light when needed. Bathrooms are also 4000k.

If you want something that looks aesthetically more pleasing that the E27 holders, can look at GU10 led bulbs with holders.

another vote for e27.

the ceiling lamp is messy to dismantle and replace. during the process, you may damage the plaster board.

Yup , during change downlight, have some chance to damage a little of plaster board , can easily get the Filler Putty from Mr Diy , most of the time the outer Downlight White Frame can cover up those damage plaster

i been DIY and change myself the led downlight for around 10 year time already , within this 10 year i think got change around 20 unit already (bought 4 time x5 spare unit) , just recently found out some cheap LED with SIRIM for only price RM7-8 , holy shit LOL ,

last few day i order the MEGAMAN downlight for RM16.90 1 unit to test out from lazada (because i no dare to order those RM6-8 downlight yet) , now i gonna test out those cheap SIRIM LED and see how is the quality and life spend ....


and do expensive vs cheap LED play jimat electric roll ? or same only because both 12w

Your house your choice. Your friend all this while using PHILIPS?
My home upgraded to PHILIPS DN027 during 2020 and till now, no single failure or flickering.

Previous house he using philips , now he move to new house and using MEGAMAN this brand , and he saying that this brand is very famous now, price range rm16-19 , cheaper alittle bit compare to philips which is around rm20-22

He do satisfy with megaman and recommend me , so i just give it a try 😀

But i do wan to try those cheap sirim downlight , see will have huge diff or not 😆

recessed e27 reflectors require to be oversized for heat dissipation. otherwise you end up changing them every 2-3 years. And their light are more narrower require either up the W or add more. With modern downlight eg osram or philips lasting 6-8 years, really don't see the reason unless you want scene switch or some smart settings.

those osram / philips brand , after 2-3 year also wont dimming? Sometime the light no rosak , but can see very obvios dimming already

Get yourself a digital light meter if you plan to test out the market available Downlight.

It does, but not obvious.

The cheap SIRIM LED from shopee just arrive 2 day ago , really susprise nowaday LED so light weight and with build in Driver , yesterday install it and let see can tahan how long to get DIM or burn out

The old LED that i replace was 2015 date Chop at the LED (actually this LED stil working , just become dimming) , and the old one with driver is heavy , time fly already 9 year using that LED , back to 9 year ago it was consider as China Unbranded RM30 LED , at that moment those Philips branded need RM60-70 for 1 Unit LED (nowaday philip LED only need around RM20++)

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jun 29 2024, 11:31 AM

indeed, led changed the land scape. But the earlier ones were really not that efficient compared to tube. the efficient really came from being compact enough to distribute lumens better in a given space. So it was really a lot of investment in wiring extra switches. I started with Philips 2nd gen recessed when it only does 700lm/W @ 35myr per pop for 10w ones at bulk price.

actually i wan to test out the Philip downlight too , but i see the outer size for philip is only 140mm , compared to my old china & megaman downlight which is 145-150mm+- , the philip run small , my inner hole is 130mm , just wonder why philip didnt follow standard 4inch size outer which is 145-150mm

if replace the old light to philip , confirm will saw the square black mark , can be solve easily with repaint a little at the edge of downlight , just need do extra step

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jun 29 2024, 01:43 PM

hard to say its not standard. it just standard to different region. I remember philips is interchangeable with osram. never used them i think they are over priced. in fact i like them compact and less intrusive