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chongkiatz
post Jun 23 2024, 08:52 AM

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hi guys , i been looking around LED downlight , recently seeing alot of RM6-8 LED downlight with SIRIM , is that they are good enough as long as got SIRIM?

some recommend me MEGAMAN brand around RM16-19 per unit


i not sure those brand actually make huge diff?
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post Jun 23 2024, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Benefon @ Jun 23 2024, 10:19 AM)
Basically led lights around Rm6-8 , even tho Rm16-30 also made in China.
Maybe about lifespans on 6-8 lesser a year and make sure buy extra light bulb to keep for spare
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those expensive can tahan ke? i last time using the Perfect One brand around Rm20-30 without sirim one , some also can't tahan more than a year , some become dim too , now my "perfect one" spare unit LED already finish replace those broken LED , just recently try search shopee/lazada and found out alot of SIRIM LED nowaday RM6-9 sweat.gif

maybe i buy 2pcs to try it out? hmm.gif

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post Jun 25 2024, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(brutus @ Jun 23 2024, 09:49 PM)
Get those better ones from PHILIPS, surely you will not regret it. Basic PHILIPS MESON are good enough for most homes. Discerning owners will want to try something like PHILIPS DN027- comes with 3-Year Warranty amd low power.
Eg.
PHILIPS MESON D150 1200lm = 17W
PHILIPS DN027 D150 1300lm = 12W
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my friend told me last time philips is good , but nowaday de philips quality macam not so good already
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post Jun 25 2024, 04:55 PM

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Yup , during change downlight, have some chance to damage a little of plaster board , can easily get the Filler Putty from Mr Diy , most of the time the outer Downlight White Frame can cover up those damage plaster

i been DIY and change myself the led downlight for around 10 year time already , within this 10 year i think got change around 20 unit already (bought 4 time x5 spare unit) , just recently found out some cheap LED with SIRIM for only price RM7-8 , holy shit LOL ,

last few day i order the MEGAMAN downlight for RM16.90 1 unit to test out from lazada (because i no dare to order those RM6-8 downlight yet) , now i gonna test out those cheap SIRIM LED and see how is the quality and life spend ....


and do expensive vs cheap LED play jimat electric roll ? or same only because both 12w
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post Jun 25 2024, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(brutus @ Jun 25 2024, 07:56 PM)
Your house your choice. Your friend all this while using PHILIPS?
My home upgraded to PHILIPS DN027 during 2020 and till now, no single failure or flickering.
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Previous house he using philips , now he move to new house and using MEGAMAN this brand , and he saying that this brand is very famous now, price range rm16-19 , cheaper alittle bit compare to philips which is around rm20-22

He do satisfy with megaman and recommend me , so i just give it a try 😀

But i do wan to try those cheap sirim downlight , see will have huge diff or not 😆
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post Jun 27 2024, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Jun 25 2024, 11:11 PM)
recessed e27 reflectors require to be oversized for heat dissipation. otherwise you end up changing them every 2-3 years. And their light are more narrower require either up the W or add more. With modern downlight eg osram or philips lasting 6-8 years, really don't see the reason unless you want scene switch or some smart settings.
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those osram / philips brand , after 2-3 year also wont dimming? Sometime the light no rosak , but can see very obvios dimming already
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post Jun 29 2024, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Jun 28 2024, 07:59 PM)
It does, but not obvious.
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The cheap SIRIM LED from shopee just arrive 2 day ago , really susprise nowaday LED so light weight and with build in Driver , yesterday install it and let see can tahan how long to get DIM or burn out

The old LED that i replace was 2015 date Chop at the LED (actually this LED stil working , just become dimming) , and the old one with driver is heavy , time fly already 9 year using that LED biggrin.gif , back to 9 year ago it was consider as China Unbranded RM30 LED laugh.gif , at that moment those Philips branded need RM60-70 for 1 Unit LED shakehead.gif (nowaday philip LED only need around RM20++) sweat.gif

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post Jun 29 2024, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(qwerty223 @ Jun 29 2024, 11:44 AM)
indeed, led changed the land scape. But the earlier ones were really not that efficient compared to tube. the efficient really came from being compact enough to distribute lumens better in a given space. So it was really a lot of investment in wiring extra switches. I started with Philips 2nd gen recessed when it only does 700lm/W @ 35myr per pop for 10w ones at bulk price.
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actually i wan to test out the Philip downlight too , but i see the outer size for philip is only 140mm , compared to my old china & megaman downlight which is 145-150mm+- , the philip run small , my inner hole is 130mm , just wonder why philip didnt follow standard 4inch size outer which is 145-150mm sad.gif

if replace the old light to philip , confirm will saw the square black mark sweat.gif , can be solve easily with repaint a little at the edge of downlight , just need do extra step

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post Aug 6 2025, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 6 2025, 08:11 AM)
Hi there.. How's your testing going so far? I'm in the verge of getting some downlights. Is the cheaper SIRIM LEDs worth it or still stick to Phillips? Thanks.
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I been using the light since 06-2024 til today , so far non of them are shutting down , i actually quite surprised for the quality at this price 😅

I even repeat order few time and replace some of my dimming old LED downlight. Now my storage stil have 3unit for spare , for rm6-7 1 unit , that really insane. Cheaper than 1 plate of chicken rice 😂

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post Aug 6 2025, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 6 2025, 09:13 AM)
Wow, that's really good to hear. At least one year on and no issues. Can you please share the link? Can pm also if you prefer. Much appreciated.

Another thing, what do you all think about those non-smart multi-color LED downlights? For use in say bedroom, sometimes need really bright light, while other times, just warm cosy lights. Contractor says they aren't as reliable. True?
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Here the link , I think as long as with sirim approved will be good to go.

https://my.shp.ee/5xeMgDG , u might go to the seller profile to look for other size or option.

About the multi-color led , i cant comment much as i dont use any of them, i feel it just a gimmick , because i stay few airbnb with multi-color LED but i dont feel i need it , might be excited for few day or to show off to friend & family member , but after this will be like.....trash.

Since multi-color led not that expensive too, not a bad choice to try it , if next time really rosak le , just change it , its so easy to replace an downlight LED.
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post Aug 6 2025, 09:29 AM

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life short bro , just go for it if u really want to try , u can change back anytime if it causing u problem , for me not a big deal.
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post Aug 6 2025, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 6 2025, 10:46 AM)
Hmm, will try in shop first & consider the tricolour for one room je. At 1/3 cost, can use single color variant everywhere else. These options might be worth it. Might also just play around with spot downlights too or cove lighting.

My other concern is how easy to change the LEDs. Of course no choice, have to be careful not to damage the plaster ceiling. Nevertheless, it's just plug & play right? Me first time messing with this. Current ones are screw/unscrew bulbs in housing. A pain though, cuz small housing & installed horizontally.
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My home was Square type of downlight , exchange the LED downlight might cause some damage the plaster ceiling especially if the spring is TIGHT one , but this cheapo SIRIM LED spring was not that tight , very easy to take down

For the broken plaster ceiling , i just get the PYE Putty Filler , can easily get from Mr Diy , and because my home ceilling was paint with maxilite plus (that most majority home ceiling paint) , so i just go to shopee buy 1L around RM10-15 for stand by if needed to repaint at the filler area , so far so good biggrin.gif

 

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