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post Aug 31 2021, 05:20 PM

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Just curious

Are you aware of the amount of tax that luno charges when withdrawing to MYR

Im not adverse to paying tax or brokerage fees of the sort, just trying to gauge what the minimum would be to make even
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post Aug 31 2021, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Aug 31 2021, 03:26 PM)
i got play forex before la.

Too stressful. To me, this makes more sense because of something I'm very familiar with the "Martingale strategy".

dollar cost averaging is a strategy that cannot lose, if you have unlimited funding.

There are settings on these bots that can fully cover a 100% drop in value. And what is the likelihood that a coin will lose all of its value overnight?

Quite low.

The bots are also working best during high volatility markets but there are methods and strategy to also make profit from low volatile markets. And even those red bags you are holding, can be turned into profit. So there are multiple strategies and settings that you can use to make $$.

After seeing what others have achieved, I believe my $100 per day target can be done.
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post Aug 31 2021, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(Cyberbullies @ Aug 31 2021, 04:14 PM)
Afaik (but don’t quote me on this), what matters is from where you are operating/trading (where the majority of the decisions are made when deriving the income).

So even if you are say a SG PR but is operating in Malaysia when deriving the income, you are subject to the taxes in Malaysia.

It is not as simple as just choosing which country to pay tax as Liamness claimed when you have SG PR (although it does not matter in his case since capital gains tax is not taxable in both SG and Msia). But then the high frequency of trading would mean that his gains are considered as income which would be taxed normally.

So to answer your question, daily trading = income hence taxable. Holding gains = capital gains hence not taxable.
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Understood, there is complication to day trading income then, just pay tax if necessary. Need to signup for CRS on SG bank side as well.
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post Aug 31 2021, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Aug 31 2021, 05:12 PM)
i used to dabble in mining too. Problem with mining is expected down time and you may need to actively manage it to ensure everything is running smoothly.

There are alot of educational youtube videos out there on this.

This guy is made 100k profit in 8 months. His capital was 30k.



Just like me, after testing the waters and learning for 1 month, he slowly started to increase his capital.

I sharing for knowledge purposes and awareness only la. It's up to ktards to do their own homework to see if want to play or not.  thumbup.gif
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Thanks for the sharing. If the money is good, 2x growth over 10k capital is very very good. If risk is manageable, by all means all out.
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post Aug 31 2021, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Aug 31 2021, 05:20 PM)
Just curious

Are you aware of the amount of tax that luno charges when withdrawing to MYR

Im not adverse to paying tax or brokerage fees of the sort, just trying to gauge what the minimum would be to make even
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ya, im aware.. crazy expensive. I don't use luno.

Try other methods perhaps? Like CIMB bank transfer. Set up a SG bank account that can transfer to Malaysia for a good rate.

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post Aug 31 2021, 05:35 PM

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Is it only effective on Binance?Only worry about the SC try to cockblock binance.
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post Aug 31 2021, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Aug 31 2021, 03:26 PM)
i got play forex before la.

Too stressful. To me, this makes more sense because of something I'm very familiar with the "Martingale strategy".

dollar cost averaging is a strategy that cannot lose, if you have unlimited funding.

There are settings on these bots that can fully cover a 100% drop in value. And what is the likelihood that a coin will lose all of its value overnight?

Quite low.

The bots are also working best during high volatility markets but there are methods and strategy to also make profit from low volatile markets. And even those red bags you are holding, can be turned into profit. So there are multiple strategies and settings that you can use to make $$.

After seeing what others have achieved, I believe my $100 per day target can be done.
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Unlimited double up, why not focus on long term investment? Or you just tangan gatal?

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post Aug 31 2021, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(PathofLife @ Aug 31 2021, 05:37 PM)
Unlimited double up, why not focus on long term investment? Or you just tangan gatal?
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got la. I got play bursa and us stock markets too. tongue.gif those buy and hold long term. No open see everyday too. haha.

Diversification yo! Road to retirement means you must keep on investing and ideally building multiple income streams. tongue.gif

don't just be unker, rely on high flying corporate job. If you 45 year old suddenly made redundant, and you have high commitments. Die standing liao. console.gif

invest whilst you still in your 20s & 30s. Then if reaching your 40s and you lose your job, you have passive income streams to lessen the burden
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QUOTE(Liamness @ Aug 31 2021, 05:06 PM)
Not sure where you got this terminology from..

Trading isn't my full time job, and to me, it's just the same as capital gains. When I declare this income source, it's clear to me and the tax people that it coming from investment.
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Haha no offence bro I am just telling you and everyone else viewing this thread in case it comes back to bite you or them in the form of penalty.

Anyway I am not plucking it from nowhere.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/thew...-need-pay-taxes

"The profits made by individuals who occasionally trade cryptocurrencies or shares may be viewed as capital gains, which is not taxable in Malaysia. But the profits earned by individuals who trade frequently may be viewed as revenue and thus, deemed as taxable income."

Bot or not, it's highly likely to be considered as "frequently trading".

Singapore's stance is more lax on individuals I guess since they are more focused on companies who do the above.

https://www.iras.gov.sg/irashome/Businesses...Digital-Tokens/

https://www.iras.gov.sg/irashome/Businesses...nce-of-a-Trade/

But tbh if you are operating the bot/viewing the bot activities/managing the bot in Malaysia, you cannot declare it as Singapore income lol.

Good luck!

QUOTE(hft @ Aug 31 2021, 05:27 PM)
Understood, there is complication to day trading income then, just pay tax if necessary. Need to signup for CRS on SG bank side as well.
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If you are currently in Malaysia, then you have to pay taxes in Malaysia. If you are currently in Singapore, then I guess it's more of a grey area, so as long as your day trading income is not your sole income and just side income, IRAS will just close on eye (I think).
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post Aug 31 2021, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Aug 31 2021, 05:41 PM)
got la. I got play bursa and us stock markets too.  tongue.gif  those buy and hold long term. No open see everyday too. haha.

Diversification yo! Road to retirement means you must keep on investing and ideally building multiple income streams.  tongue.gif

don't just be unker, rely on high flying corporate job. If you 45 year old suddenly made redundant, and you have high commitments. Die standing liao.  console.gif

invest whilst you still in your 20s & 30s. Then if reaching your 40s and you lose your job, you have passive income streams to lessen the burden
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True to that, people are easily replaceable. You are your own.
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QUOTE(ne0 @ Aug 31 2021, 05:35 PM)
Is it only effective on Binance?Only worry about the SC try to cockblock binance.
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https://3commas.io/exchanges

got quite a few exchanges supported gua.

but obviously binance is the best because they have the most supported coins la.

ya la.. stupiak SC..
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post Aug 31 2021, 05:45 PM

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Everyone is an investing genius during up trend.
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QUOTE(Cyberbullies @ Aug 31 2021, 05:41 PM)
Haha no offence bro I am just telling you and everyone else viewing this thread in case it comes back to bite you or them in the form of penalty.

Anyway I am not plucking it from nowhere.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/thew...-need-pay-taxes

"The profits made by individuals who occasionally trade cryptocurrencies or shares may be viewed as capital gains, which is not taxable in Malaysia. But the profits earned by individuals who trade frequently may be viewed as revenue and thus, deemed as taxable income."

Bot or not, it's highly likely to be considered as "frequently trading".

Singapore's stance is more lax on individuals I guess since they are more focused on companies who do the above.

https://www.iras.gov.sg/irashome/Businesses...Digital-Tokens/

https://www.iras.gov.sg/irashome/Businesses...nce-of-a-Trade/

But tbh if you are operating the bot/viewing the bot activities/managing the bot in Malaysia, you cannot declare it as Singapore income lol.

Good luck!
If you are currently in Malaysia, then you have to pay taxes in Malaysia. If you are currently in Singapore, then I guess it's more of a grey area, so as long as your day trading income is not your sole income and just side income, IRAS will just close on eye (I think).
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can la, why cannot. haha.

I'm not tax resident of Malaysia. Quite weird, I got written a few times to Msia. They just asked me to show my IRAS statement, which clearly shows all my declared income in SGD.

They say im not a tax resident in malaysia lor..

I don't think the tax office can even track my crypto activities.. firstly, for binance account, im using my singaporean PR details. and the money source is from SG. everytime I withdraw to malaysia, all they will notice is my remit to Malaysia from my SG bank account. Which i can easily proof as declared SG income on my IRAS statement.

I'm good.


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post Aug 31 2021, 05:50 PM

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how long has this bot been running ? just one month or the whole year lioa ?

because if just one month, currently crypto is bullish mode... so abit easier but if sudden plunge how ? has the bot tested with these ?
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QUOTE(corebie @ Aug 31 2021, 05:45 PM)
Everyone is an investing genius during up trend.
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true that. rclxms.gif

but dont hate me ya, my method is even better during down trend.

I want the market to go down and fluctuate.

Market keep going up, I can only make few cents per trade. But if down trend, hoho.. this is where I make the big bucks with my DCA strategy. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 31 2021, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(bill11 @ Aug 31 2021, 05:50 PM)
how long has this bot been running ? just one month or the whole year lioa ?

because if just one month, currently crypto is bullish mode... so abit easier but if sudden plunge how ? has the bot tested with these ?
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Good question.
Yes, I have only been running my bot for just over 1 month now.

That being said, I have simulated backtesting on my bots.

Trading view have scripts for you to use to simulate your settings over a long period of time and see what kind of result you are looking to get.

https://www.tradingview.com/script/9NXf1Bqb...CA-bot-3commas/

Of course, this is all theoretical. But the main juice is understanding what the bot is actually doing.

You see, I have set up my bots to only enter a position if price that drop to a resistance level. Then I also added in an RSI condition, to enter the market during "overbought" scenario.

If you are a day trader, these are some scalping conditions. So once you understand what the bots are doing, you also relax abit and learn to trust the strategy and process.

Overall, just make sure you play with money you are willing to afford to lose. thumbup.gif



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QUOTE(Liamness @ Aug 31 2021, 03:10 PM)
Past 1 month, I have been playing crypto investing using resident investment sifu PrincZe advise and finding.

You can read more of his methods here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5142831/+0
So far, playing this give me a profits of below:

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Current average daily profits: 25usd/day

personal capital invested: $4800usd.

monthly rate of return: 44%  shocking.gif  However, this is during what I feel is an extended bull run. I don't expect this kind of returns on monthly basis.

income tax paid : $0. (I can claim as SG income, which is tax free on all capital gains. Then I remit to MYR, at small forex fee.
One of the ONLY benefits of being a Singapore PR..)

Best performing pair:

Alice/busd.

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Ayam Plans and Objectives.

So my plan is to set an average return of 100usd a day.
Based on my research and calculations, I will need at least US$20k capital. Over next few months, I will slowly building up towards this. I got other investments too, so this is just for fun and source of passive income.

I will update here if ayam managed to achieve this goal in next few months. Wish me luck.

Also, If you are interested, you can AMA on how to get started with this and the current strats Ayam is using. Just be warn, it can be abit technical if you have not play any day trading or forex before. But it's super fun to learn and relatively safe la..
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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Aug 31 2021, 06:02 PM)
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