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why so many EcoWorld Horizon houses for sale?, batu kawan?
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massive amount of subsale but less buyer?
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stone friend is good place. said CM.
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Ulu area who wants, faster pass on to next water fish lar. Else later cry till red eye 🤭 Quiksilver Box and idunnolol liked this post
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Sampah place harga Yahodeeeee
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Aug 28 2021, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(samquah @ Aug 28 2021, 11:43 AM) U buy house so can go ikea everyday? 😅 |
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Aug 28 2021, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(samquah @ Aug 28 2021, 11:43 AM) Got berbillion flies too!Have many reban ayam nearby. That area used to be swamp land so expect settlement problem in 5 to 10 years like door/windows cannot close properly, white ants infestation, etc. |
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Aug 28 2021, 12:05 PM
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I went around Batu Kawan a few times, but in the end also didn't buy. It looks well planned and there are some factories nearby. Maybe will improve in a few years time.
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Aug 28 2021, 12:08 PM
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i don;t like gateless,.. no privacy,..
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rm 838k ? lol wow
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Aug 28 2021, 12:18 PM
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838k for that price go fly kite
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Former swamp area? Sure sinking after a few years
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QUOTE(ericangtzeann @ Aug 28 2021, 11:41 AM) Factories in Batu Kawan doing quire well before the pandamic. Problem with this eco world development is that it is leasehold but still so expensive. Freehold penang mainland is cheap. If cheaper and leasehold maybe ok If expensive and freehold also maybe ok But it is both expensive and leasehold, I don't think many penang lang will want. At that price might as well buy landed in island. 850k can buy in good location on island already |
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Harga Yahoodee
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So cheap meh . Not over 1million?
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 12:24 PM) Factories in Batu Kawan doing quire well before the pandamic. RM850k can buy landed in Penang? balik pulau also not as cheap as this price now.Problem with this eco world development is that it is leasehold but still so expensive. Freehold penang mainland is cheap. If cheaper and leasehold maybe ok If expensive and freehold also maybe ok But it is both expensive and leasehold, I don't think many penang lang will want. At that price might as well buy landed in island. 850k can buy in good location on island already |
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Everybody wants to live on island side la. Even mainland people. Lmao pgpg liked this post
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Aug 28 2021, 12:35 PM
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wat kinda house is that, no gate summore
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Aug 28 2021, 12:40 PM
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Leasehold for that price tag better go fly kites. Isobel liked this post
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Aug 28 2021, 12:41 PM
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There successfully attracted non penang buyer with mind of buying penang hs as a batch to show off to others, hoping the potential in 20 yrs time
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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Aug 28 2021, 12:26 PM) older ones lahin the south https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/bayan-lep...Price=900000&l1 tanjung bungah even have one https://www.iproperty.com.my/property/tanju...sale-102025480/ ayer itam https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/ayer-itam...Price=900000&l1 700k-800k in balik pulua are those new houses in botanica ct only I think Penang lang always overestimate the cost of landed house there It is similar to places like Subang and PJ |
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QUOTE(samquah @ Aug 28 2021, 01:13 PM) QUOTE(ericangtzeann @ Aug 28 2021, 01:16 PM) QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 28 2021, 01:19 PM) Got berbillion flies too! Have many reban ayam nearby. That area used to be swamp land so expect settlement problem in 5 to 10 years like door/windows cannot close properly, white ants infestation, etc. QUOTE(iGamer @ Aug 28 2021, 01:40 PM) You all so sad life at stoned friend.IKEA and home..everyday ikea you also bored edi. |
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i thought batu kawan 400k can get double storey 3000 sqft house. no ah?
still need 800k ah, expensive wei. |
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This type of layout ..... hari hari gaduh parking .... pasal tayar atau buntut lari sikit. This post has been edited by mini orchard: Aug 28 2021, 01:06 PM prolexus liked this post
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Aug 28 2021, 01:02 PM) That's what they said about Puchong and Sunway, ex-mining areas will surely sink .....looked at them now after decades ... U don't compare high profile areas with ulu places lo. Back then developers knew their address is worth the investment so won't luanluanlai with their foundation systems. |
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u already have your answer. rm800k for fucked overpriced house? Go fly kite. Malaysians not waterfish or stupid enough to buy their properties at 800k
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Butterworth South they call it?
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Mahai giler babi sial
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jus like EcoMajestic... all the hype .... price so expensive but ulu place.
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Reminds of hawkers at the Chinese restaurant.
They put very nice pic of the food but when you order it's like crap and they overcharge you for it APA la This post has been edited by lopo90: Aug 28 2021, 01:22 PM |
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 12:52 PM) older ones lah Sub sales can not count like this. sub sale you can use RM2.8million to buy RM4.5million house which LGE done before.in the south https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/bayan-lep...Price=900000&l1 tanjung bungah even have one https://www.iproperty.com.my/property/tanju...sale-102025480/ ayer itam https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/ayer-itam...Price=900000&l1 700k-800k in balik pulua are those new houses in botanica ct only I think Penang lang always overestimate the cost of landed house there It is similar to places like Subang and PJ |
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Aug 28 2021, 01:22 PM
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No gate no discount?
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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Aug 28 2021, 01:22 PM) Sub sales can not count like this. sub sale you can use RM2.8million to buy RM4.5million house which LGE done before. so means actual selling price even lower than listingwhich further proves my point. 850k can get freehold landed on island, not many willing to fork out the same amount for mainland leasehold. landscaping isn't that important to most malaysians |
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 01:30 PM) so means actual selling price even lower than listing its not only about the freehold landed, but the gated residencewhich further proves my point. 850k can get freehold landed on island, not many willing to fork out the same amount for mainland leasehold. landscaping isn't that important to most malaysians landscaping is quite important cause i find cables hanging around lamp post quite ugly tky1993 liked this post
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 01:30 PM) so means actual selling price even lower than listing Only if you are bumi may be else extremely hard.which further proves my point. 850k can get freehold landed on island, not many willing to fork out the same amount for mainland leasehold. landscaping isn't that important to most malaysians |
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Look at all these sourgrapes. 850k complain expensive. Nowonder still stay in kampung baru slums and low class narrow road neighbourhood. Kindergarten every corner, insonsiderate neighbours parking infront your house, flower pots everywhere at outside longkang area is probably what you guys want? lioncarlsberg, Gadget_Freak, and 1 other liked this post
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 12:52 PM) older ones lah I dont think you can actually directly compare with the houses above in the south https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/bayan-lep...Price=900000&l1 tanjung bungah even have one https://www.iproperty.com.my/property/tanju...sale-102025480/ ayer itam https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/ayer-itam...Price=900000&l1 700k-800k in balik pulua are those new houses in botanica ct only I think Penang lang always overestimate the cost of landed house there It is similar to places like Subang and PJ ecoworld is gated & guarded residence with facilities like gym / pools lioncarlsberg liked this post
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QUOTE(LazadaGot @ Aug 28 2021, 01:54 PM) I dont think you can actually directly compare with the houses above These are exactly the low class slums Im talkin about lo. Prefer to stay in slums then complain why got low class mentality neighbour, why strangers can cum in rob their hse, why some owners not paying maintenance fees yet nothing can be done.ecoworld is gated & guarded residence with facilities like gym / pools They didnt mention in ecoworld neighbourhood, the guard roaming around the taman every 2-3 hours and punching checkpoints in every corner. You dont even need to install grille in these houses. |
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No wall.
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RM838k and they are wondering why nobody is buying their houses. Even RM500k houses are considered expensive sudah. And our salaries so low and unstable.
Time to sell on OF |
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QUOTE(Redshelf411 @ Aug 28 2021, 03:25 PM) RM838k and they are wondering why nobody is buying their houses. Even RM500k houses are considered expensive sudah. And our salaries so low and unstable. not many ppl can affored 800k++ house these days, even bank is strict Time to sell on OF imagine the lawyer fee upfront is deal killer |
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No comment about eco world.
But batu kawan area, if the morning/night time is quite humid, all you smell is just chicken shit |
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Aug 28 2021, 03:36 PM) not many ppl can affored 800k++ house these days, even bank is strict IKR.imagine the lawyer fee upfront is deal killer Also a lot of people who earns quite a sizeable income buy houses that are rm300k and less. The leftover houses are mostly rm500k and up. That means a lot of Malaysians are unable to own a home in the future. Looks like we gonna rent till the day we die lol. |
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you not just buy a house in ecoworld. you buying a lifestyle in a township with the exclusive experience.
island 800k only can buy upper tier condo or very old subsale terrace in old area with no guard and facilities with narrow roads and many cars parked at the roadside as there is not enough parking in the house compound just like buying 2 myvi vs 1 X70. you get more cars with myvi but you cant get the comfort and safety of the X70 no place in island you can find this type of well designed township with potentially huge growth potential. batu kawan is just like bandar utama/mutiara damansara/ kota damansara 20 years ago. |
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Aug 28 2021, 04:15 PM) 😂😂😂😂😂Omg lol 😂😂😂😂😂 kaiserreich liked this post
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That place is a living oven. Isolated and hot af, 24 7 sir condition indoor.
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Wow... 800k in Penang...
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Aug 28 2021, 04:15 PM) you not just buy a house in ecoworld. you buying a lifestyle in a township with the exclusive experience. You not looking hard enough.island 800k only can buy upper tier condo or very old subsale terrace in old area with no guard and facilities with narrow roads and many cars parked at the roadside as there is not enough parking in the house compound just like buying 2 myvi vs 1 X70. you get more cars with myvi but you cant get the comfort and safety of the X70 no place in island you can find this type of well designed township with potentially huge growth potential. batu kawan is just like bandar utama/mutiara damansara/ kota damansara 20 years ago. On the island RM600k 1300 sq ft 3bed 2 toilets 1 car park apartment, 4 units to a floor, near schools and market. Many flipper & investors kenot tahan almost 2 yrs of covid are desperately cutting their loss! So too are developers, gives you fully furnish unit, just wanna you to move in and stay! Not to give the impression of a dead condo - ada guards but no resident!! focusrite liked this post
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"Got ikea nearby so price must increase 99"
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What is the original price ?
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QUOTE(Quantum Geist @ Aug 28 2021, 04:29 PM) IKEA was set up there due to cheaper land for larger business premises, yet “smart” prop flippers think the land is valuable…. The irony. ceo684 liked this post
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 12:52 PM) older ones lah For this kind of houses with township planning and gated/guarded that is around the price.in the south https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/bayan-lep...Price=900000&l1 tanjung bungah even have one https://www.iproperty.com.my/property/tanju...sale-102025480/ ayer itam https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/ayer-itam...Price=900000&l1 700k-800k in balik pulua are those new houses in botanica ct only I think Penang lang always overestimate the cost of landed house there It is similar to places like Subang and PJ For penang island those with similar township planning for comparison: Botanica - balik pulau Southbay - batu maung Quayside - tg tokong Permai garden - tg bungah Still got some boutique one with not as large township but yeah prices not cheap for these that want “clean/neat” neighbourhood. Those you mentioned one some are old neighbourhood with alot of legacy issues, like drainage, illegal parkings, small narrow lorongs etc. |
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RM838k for 2.4k sqft is quite okay to pay for a premium price.
you don't expect to walk into Gucci/Prada/Hermes/LV and expecting to pay Bonia/Carlo/Nike price right? First phase was only 7xxk when its first launched. Anyhow it is fully sold by the developer during the Launch |
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 28 2021, 04:39 PM) For this kind of houses with township planning and gated/guarded that is around the price. The Light - GelugorFor penang island those with similar township planning for comparison: Botanica - balik pulau Southbay - batu maung Quayside - tg tokong Permai garden - tg bungah Still got some boutique one with not as large township but yeah prices not cheap for these that want “clean/neat” neighbourhood. Those you mentioned one some are old neighbourhood with alot of legacy issues, like drainage, illegal parkings, small narrow lorongs etc. ChAOoz liked this post
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 28 2021, 11:49 AM) Got berbillion flies too! This is true alot of big ass flies. But the problem lies in location just not nice and far from island. Have many reban ayam nearby. That area used to be swamp land so expect settlement problem in 5 to 10 years like door/windows cannot close properly, white ants infestation, etc. Well in terms of settlement issues, I remember when straits quay launching people also say don’t buy cause its reclaimed land. Well that turn out alright, cause the neighbourhood and its residence prop up the prices. |
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 28 2021, 04:47 PM) This is true alot of big ass flies. But the problem lies in location just not nice and far from island. Actually if you really go to that place, the only weak point is - bad signalWell in terms of settlement issues, I remember when straits quay launching people also say don’t buy cause its reclaimed land. Well that turn out alright, cause the neighbourhood and its residence prop up the prices. Theres no such thing about bad/foul smell or flies |
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 28 2021, 04:47 PM) This is true alot of big ass flies. But the problem lies in location just not nice and far from island. Settlement issues is dependent on the developer.Well in terms of settlement issues, I remember when straits quay launching people also say don’t buy cause its reclaimed land. Well that turn out alright, cause the neighbourhood and its residence prop up the prices. Many tall buildings in Singapore/Hong Kong seldom have this issues. Straits Quay landed property do have water ponding issues & some roads & pavement are slightly lower than original. |
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 28 2021, 04:52 PM) Settlement issues is dependent on the developer. If you take a look at Karpal Singh Drive + QueensbayMany tall buildings in Singapore/Hong Kong seldom have this issues. Straits Quay landed property do have water ponding issues & some roads & pavement are slightly lower than original. These 2 areas has serious settlement issues. |
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 28 2021, 04:54 PM) Heat, if you understand the failure of Design Village, even previously brands like Coach left because the design of the structure has the maximum absorbent of heat.And most of the leatherware are torn/rosak |
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QUOTE(iGamer @ Aug 28 2021, 04:35 PM) IKEA was set up there due to cheaper land for larger business premises, yet “smart” prop flippers think the land is valuable…. The irony. It's the developer that are smart .. but buyers tot 850k still good investment.lol.. I wonder how much they wan to sell to make profit |
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QUOTE(RedBishop @ Aug 28 2021, 04:43 PM) RM838k for 2.4k sqft is quite okay to pay for a premium price. Ecoworld very good at selling. Their showroom give you the lifestyle that home buyers are looking for. Planning wise also very good. Clean and neat township that you feel will be safe for children etc.you don't expect to walk into Gucci/Prada/Hermes/LV and expecting to pay Bonia/Carlo/Nike price right? First phase was only 7xxk when its first launched. Anyhow it is fully sold by the developer during the Launch But their project will struggle in subsale, cause all this factor they already priced into the project on launching. Unless batu kawan developed into a full satellite town like bayan lepas, prices is going to stay stagnant for a long while. |
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Aug 28 2021, 05:00 PM) It's the developer that are smart .. but buyers tot 850k still good investment.lol.. I wonder how much they wan to sell to make profit If you calculate by the basic construction cost (if you are from Development/Construction Industry)Persqft is approximately RM200-RM250 (Put it at RM250 due to the quality of Eco World) 2400 sqft x RM250 = RM600,000 (Construction Cost) 1400 sqft x RM100 (Land Cost) = RM140,000 (Land Cost) Total RM740,000 (Costing Only) You can't blame the upper-end people from Penang/Mainland, when they have excessive money, they just want to put it somewhere solid. And the project just gotten the CCC this year only. |
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 28 2021, 05:02 PM) Ecoworld very good at selling. Their showroom give you the lifestyle that home buyers are looking for. Planning wise also very good. Clean and neat township that you feel will be safe for children etc. They have proven success from other states, KL and Johor, but they have failed the one in Penang (Eco Terraces). But their project will struggle in subsale, cause all this factor they already priced into the project on launching. Unless batu kawan developed into a full satellite town like bayan lepas, prices is going to stay stagnant for a long while. If you are buying Eco World, it's like you're buying Hermes/LV and such. It has the value, doesn't mean you manage to resell well in a short-run. But the value preserves. |
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QUOTE(tky1993 @ Aug 28 2021, 02:02 PM) These are exactly the low class slums Im talkin about lo. Prefer to stay in slums then complain why got low class mentality neighbour, why strangers can cum in rob their hse, why some owners not paying maintenance fees yet nothing can be done. why so butthurt?They didnt mention in ecoworld neighbourhood, the guard roaming around the taman every 2-3 hours and punching checkpoints in every corner. You dont even need to install grille in these houses. I'm just talking about the average house buyer and explaining why this isn't doing well |
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 28 2021, 04:39 PM) For this kind of houses with township planning and gated/guarded that is around the price. true, but I'm saying that when comparing location vs well-planned neighborhood, most msians and penang lang would choose the former. For penang island those with similar township planning for comparison: Botanica - balik pulau Southbay - batu maung Quayside - tg tokong Permai garden - tg bungah Still got some boutique one with not as large township but yeah prices not cheap for these that want “clean/neat” neighbourhood. Those you mentioned one some are old neighbourhood with alot of legacy issues, like drainage, illegal parkings, small narrow lorongs etc. If I have 800k-900k to buy a house in penang, I rather buy an old double storey in tanjung bungah than those places you listed. same in KV, rather buy in old PJ neighborhood than buy nicer taman in Setia Alam |
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QUOTE(RedBishop @ Aug 28 2021, 05:03 PM) They have proven success from other states, KL and Johor, but they have failed the one in Penang (Eco Terraces). Waiting to find the next desa park homerun, but penang buyer quite calculative one. Very hard to for these “branded” township to catch on especially if its on mainland.If you are buying Eco World, it's like you're buying Hermes/LV and such. It has the value, doesn't mean you manage to resell well in a short-run. But the value preserves. Better bet on penang island or like you say kl/jb. |
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Aug 28 2021, 05:11 PM
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If price is rm388k ok.
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 05:09 PM) true, but I'm saying that when comparing location vs well-planned neighborhood, most msians and penang lang would choose the former. Yes you are right, but you have to understand the people/market of Mainland vs Island.If I have 800k-900k to buy a house in penang, I rather buy an old double storey in tanjung bungah than those places you listed. same in KV, rather buy in old PJ neighborhood than buy nicer taman in Setia Alam Population @ Island 700k, Mainland is 1mil People from mainland doesn't want to stay far away from their parents (Chinese Mentality) They pick up good/premium places like Eco World. Thats why you can see a lot of young people/couple with flashy cars driving around that Taman (Eco Horizon) |
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QUOTE(RedBishop @ Aug 28 2021, 05:12 PM) Yes you are right, but you have to understand the people/market of Mainland vs Island. good pointPopulation @ Island 700k, Mainland is 1mil People from mainland doesn't want to stay far away from their parents (Chinese Mentality) They pick up good/premium places like Eco World. Thats why you can see a lot of young people/couple with flashy cars driving around that Taman (Eco Horizon) Forgot that mainlanders are also penang lang |
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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 28 2021, 05:10 PM) Waiting to find the next desa park homerun, but penang buyer quite calculative one. Very hard to for these “branded” township to catch on especially if its on mainland. Yes but surprisingly most of their market has its own uniqueness.Better bet on penang island or like you say kl/jb. They captured a lot of "Perak" people / Mainland by selling off their brand. Anyway, Perak+Penang has the highest FD in the banks comparing to other states. |
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Aug 28 2021, 05:07 PM) After decades off course sinking problem solve..i still remember a time where Puchong too got many lalat bau busuk because of the tempat buang sampah. Off course Puchong are not built on top of marine clay. Klang however is build on top of marine clay. 600 years after 1st habitations, that place is still sinking |
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 05:14 PM) Haha i used to think like you last time, but if you expand your thoughts and understand more people from other places, then you will actually understand, the every success story of the hidden developer from mainland. focusrite liked this post
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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 28 2021, 05:15 PM) After decades off course sinking problem solve. Lalat bau busuk, I think that one is Sri Petaling leh, ex rubbish dumping area..i still remember a time where Puchong too got many lalat bau busuk because of the tempat buang sampah. Off course Puchong are not built on top of marine clay. Klang however is build on top of marine clay. 600 years after 1st habitations, that place is still sinking |
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Well setia alam when it first launch all ppl also say damn ulu who want to stay.
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Aug 28 2021, 05:18 PM) The only thing I could remember is one TV3 news Where idiots there who bought house near rubbish dumb complain bau busuk. Or how people who bought house near KLIA then complain bising. Or Klang people who live on top of Marine clay complain their road are sinking. Seriously, these people retarded or what? |
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QUOTE(darth5zaft @ Aug 28 2021, 05:24 PM) The only thing I could remember is one TV3 news yeah, you should already know what you are buying before you are buyingWhere idiots there who bought house near rubbish dumb complain bau busuk. Or how people who bought house near KLIA then complain bising. Or Klang people who live on top of Marine clay complain their road are sinking. Seriously, these people retarded or what? its up to 35 years of tenure |
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Aug 28 2021, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(Ayambetul @ Aug 28 2021, 05:21 PM) i still consider setia alam ului work in PJ.. one day company event need go setia alam SCCC.. damn far and time consuming lol so many traffic light and need pusing here n there.. from PJ go KLCC, Mines, Midvalley, maeps also feel nearer. |
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It has begun
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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Aug 28 2021, 05:31 PM) i still consider setia alam ulu i don't live in setia alam but my gf does, at SEP. That place if u are not working in PJ/KL, u can get everything u need within setia alam... so called self sustainablei work in PJ.. one day company event need go setia alam SCCC.. damn far and time consuming lol so many traffic light and need pusing here n there.. from PJ go KLCC, Mines, Midvalley, maeps also feel nearer. |
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Ecoworld in bt kawan side consider very ulu.. i forsee bt kawan next 10years also wont be fully populated with ample development
most of working class now renting in Utropolis beside Design Village. those work in ikea, WD, inari, hotayi, hp, micron and the likes. no petrol station atm, everything nearest in simpang ampat/tambun which about 20-30 mins drive. my ex-boss also bought Eco but left empty.. prefer rent and stay in bkt mertajam coz everything also got.. restaurants, schools, government office, near chai leng and icon city. but if stay in batu kawan, shopping best is to go queensbay.. juz cross bridge no traffic light. This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Aug 28 2021, 05:49 PM |
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 01:24 PM) Factories in Batu Kawan doing quire well before the pandamic. It's a freehold actuallyProblem with this eco world development is that it is leasehold but still so expensive. Freehold penang mainland is cheap. If cheaper and leasehold maybe ok If expensive and freehold also maybe ok But it is both expensive and leasehold, I don't think many penang lang will want. At that price might as well buy landed in island. 850k can buy in good location on island already |
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 28 2021, 05:35 PM) i don't live in setia alam but my gf does, at SEP. That place if u are not working in PJ/KL, u can get everything u need within setia alam... so called self sustainable every township also like dat given enough time.. juz whether development will be fast enough... 1 decade, 2 decade, 3decades?... 2002 equine still a rubbish dump.. now also sustainable sg long last time damn ulu... now also sustainable.. but i wont want go there.. furthest is balakong and back lolx cyberjaya looks like still got long way to go... |
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QUOTE(RedBishop @ Aug 28 2021, 05:02 PM) If you calculate by the basic construction cost (if you are from Development/Construction Industry) Didn't know u can count like that, maybe landed only. How about common area ?Persqft is approximately RM200-RM250 (Put it at RM250 due to the quality of Eco World) 2400 sqft x RM250 = RM600,000 (Construction Cost) 1400 sqft x RM100 (Land Cost) = RM140,000 (Land Cost) Total RM740,000 (Costing Only) You can't blame the upper-end people from Penang/Mainland, when they have excessive money, they just want to put it somewhere solid. And the project just gotten the CCC this year only. |
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I went to design village. Walked around 2 hrs only bought socks n my dad 2 pair of jeans from Levi's. Looks dead
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QUOTE(lee_lnh @ Aug 28 2021, 05:46 PM) every township also like dat given enough time.. juz whether development will be fast enough... 1 decade, 2 decade, 3decades?... 2002 equine still a rubbish dump.. now also sustainable sg long last time damn ulu... now also sustainable.. but i wont want go there.. furthest is balakong and back lolx cyberjaya looks like still got long way to go... QUOTE(dickybird @ Aug 28 2021, 05:47 PM) another thing we notice is... Setia Alam is quite a lot safer relative to other areas i.e. Klang, PJ old town, other seksyen in shah alam in terms of covid hot spots... extra benefit in that sense. Again, I don't own any properties in that area. Sg. Long is a fine place, I very much prefer Bukit Jelutong, from roughly the same period. Cyber is.. no....... tak boleh. |
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THE PLACE location not worth the price....paid a visit recently.
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QUOTE(RedBishop @ Aug 28 2021, 05:02 PM) If you calculate by the basic construction cost (if you are from Development/Construction Industry) +1Persqft is approximately RM200-RM250 (Put it at RM250 due to the quality of Eco World) 2400 sqft x RM250 = RM600,000 (Construction Cost) 1400 sqft x RM100 (Land Cost) = RM140,000 (Land Cost) Total RM740,000 (Costing Only) You can't blame the upper-end people from Penang/Mainland, when they have excessive money, they just want to put it somewhere solid. And the project just gotten the CCC this year only. I am an Ecoworld owner (but Eco Majestic in Semenyih) I know the land here is obviously cheaper, but what we notice is that the gap between precincts are very big (basically a lot of buffer from perimeter fencing to main road) No matter how many times we try to roughly calculate the cost of materials in building a house + land, it's very hard to believe that EW can still make a decent profit out of it. A lot of cost in maintaining the common area landscaping (outside of precinct, so no sinking fund used), too. ![]() |
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 28 2021, 06:02 PM) +1 how much you paying for maintenance?I am an Ecoworld owner (but Eco Majestic in Semenyih) I know the land here is obviously cheaper, but what we notice is that the gap between precincts are very big (basically a lot of buffer from perimeter fencing to main road) No matter how many times we try to roughly calculate the cost of materials in building a house + land, it's very hard to believe that EW can still make a decent profit out of it. A lot of cost in maintaining the common area landscaping (outside of precinct, so no sinking fund used), too. ![]() |
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QUOTE(kel32 @ Aug 28 2021, 05:59 PM) yeah.. dunno why they close islandside one at gurney.BK biznes is good.. DV onealwiz see more abang grab/panda then walk in customers. haha.. i wouldnt call DV premium outlet... when 1st visit i was expecting similar to JB, Genting and those i visit in US and Japan. manatau is tryhard copy... not the exact registered "Premium Outlet" groups... but beside ikea soon gonna have standalone mcD. |
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QUOTE(focusrite @ Aug 28 2021, 06:04 PM) 11 cents per sqft. 24*75 = RM198 (Cradleton)covers landscaping, guards, state of the art security system, weekly mosquito fogging, etc. |
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 28 2021, 05:57 PM) another thing we notice is... Setia Alam is quite a lot safer relative to other areas i.e. Klang, PJ old town, other seksyen in shah alam in terms of covid hot spots... extra benefit in that sense. Again, I don't own any properties in that area. Setia alam is actually close to top glove factory. I wouldn't say it is safer.Sg. Long is a fine place, I very much prefer Bukit Jelutong, from roughly the same period. Cyber is.. no....... tak boleh. |
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 28 2021, 05:57 PM) another thing we notice is... Setia Alam is quite a lot safer relative to other areas i.e. Klang, PJ old town, other seksyen in shah alam in terms of covid hot spots... extra benefit in that sense. Again, I don't own any properties in that area. I was looking at Bukit Jelutong previously too. But the whole area only has one place that sells pork. Ended up buying Bandar Kinrara despite being more expensive.Sg. Long is a fine place, I very much prefer Bukit Jelutong, from roughly the same period. Cyber is.. no....... tak boleh. |
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 28 2021, 05:57 PM) another thing we notice is... Setia Alam is quite a lot safer relative to other areas i.e. Klang, PJ old town, other seksyen in shah alam in terms of covid hot spots... extra benefit in that sense. Again, I don't own any properties in that area. HahaSg. Long is a fine place, I very much prefer Bukit Jelutong, from roughly the same period. Cyber is.. no....... tak boleh. Setia alam is like Park City i guess, but for richer Klang peeps. If you work in KL/PJ, it's a bit far. As for covid hotspots, it helps that it isn't very high density and as well as the demographic being mainly kiasi cinas. Nice developement just a bit far for people like me used to living closer to Kl and pj. |
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Aug 28 2021, 06:45 PM
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Alot keh ?
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Aug 28 2021, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 28 2021, 06:02 PM) +1 actually accordingly to their annual report, their earnings is around 10% per annum by average.I am an Ecoworld owner (but Eco Majestic in Semenyih) I know the land here is obviously cheaper, but what we notice is that the gap between precincts are very big (basically a lot of buffer from perimeter fencing to main road) No matter how many times we try to roughly calculate the cost of materials in building a house + land, it's very hard to believe that EW can still make a decent profit out of it. A lot of cost in maintaining the common area landscaping (outside of precinct, so no sinking fund used), too. ![]() you can roughly calculate. 740k+10% = 814,000 it's roughly around there |
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Aug 28 2021, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE(etan26 @ Aug 28 2021, 01:02 PM) That's what they said about Puchong and Sunway, ex-mining areas will surely sink .....looked at them now after decades ... Not sure about ex mining but swamp areas in miri toward Brunei border were turned in huge multiple housing estates by awarded winning developerNow after warranty period, some houses had cracked walled n sinking floor |
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Aug 28 2021, 11:21 PM
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Aug 28 2021, 11:24 PM
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Aug 28 2021, 11:25 PM
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Rm250k then i might consider buy
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Aug 28 2021, 11:31 PM
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Imagine that price 850k+ bordering mainly kilang2.
And I m sure there's maintenance fee 200-300 easily |
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Aug 28 2021, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(samquah @ Aug 28 2021, 11:40 AM) massive amount of subsale but less buyer? 22 x70?![]() rm838k https://www.mudah.my/Ashton+Gated+Guarded+E...CE-91419709.htm Sell it around 500k. U can get buyer |
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Aug 28 2021, 11:34 PM
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Aug 29 2021, 02:24 AM
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Funny no one mention bout the daily traffic there. Huge ass lorries , containers to the factories there. For industrial is ok. For residential a huge no no. And factories still mushrooming here n there.
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Aug 29 2021, 02:34 AM
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800k can get good superlink in klang valley ady
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Aug 29 2021, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE(Vista-X @ Aug 29 2021, 02:24 AM) Funny no one mention bout the daily traffic there. Huge ass lorries , containers to the factories there. For industrial is ok. For residential a huge no no. And factories still mushrooming here n there. actually not much big lorries.. semi-truck with containers wont be able to turn due to narrow and sharp 90 degree road. also coz it's directly out of PLUS 1st exit left to BKIP, 2nd exit right to ikea, aspen, ultropolis, eco, bandar cassia.. so semi trucks got no reason to go right unless send to ikea (only a few semi without kontena on the way back mau jimat toll go back to juru auto, bkt minyak and perai industrial). if go straight is enter 2nd bridge to bayan lepas btw they're building a flyover instead of previous traffic light to bypass ecohorizon main junction. maybe will complete next 2 years? so now and then see lorry for carry soil only for new developments. i'm more not syok PLUS is 2 lane consider heavy traffic nearing to juru toll.. This post has been edited by lee_lnh: Aug 29 2021, 03:15 AM |
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Aug 29 2021, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(galkelly @ Aug 28 2021, 01:21 PM) ![]() the back of the house looks horible... where the privacy ... i would never even consider this type.. all the selling point, but in fact dev potong many thing and sell at sky price...sorhai ppl buy de |
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Aug 30 2021, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE(RedBishop @ Aug 28 2021, 05:02 PM) If you calculate by the basic construction cost (if you are from Development/Construction Industry) How confident are you on the costing for each individual segment? Can elaborate with reason & percentage confidence? Persqft is approximately RM200-RM250 (Put it at RM250 due to the quality of Eco World) 2400 sqft x RM250 = RM600,000 (Construction Cost) 1400 sqft x RM100 (Land Cost) = RM140,000 (Land Cost) Total RM740,000 (Costing Only) You can't blame the upper-end people from Penang/Mainland, when they have excessive money, they just want to put it somewhere solid. And the project just gotten the CCC this year only. |
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Aug 30 2021, 03:59 PM
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Aug 30 2021, 04:03 PM
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Aug 30 2021, 04:04 PM
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And so what got IKEA. IKEA bukan budaya kita. Rather buy a house in Alma/Bukit minyak/Bukit mertajam at rm600k.
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QUOTE(evangelion @ Aug 30 2021, 03:10 PM) How confident are you on the costing for each individual segment? Can elaborate with reason & percentage confidence? Hi there,First of all, the average costing is determined by -Construction (Including Raw Materials, and calculation of Inflation) -Contribution Costs (To Government) -Infrastructure -Marketing -Landscaping/Facilities It's very hard to explain in % as most of the Developers have different calculation and segmentation, but for Eco World, for sure we understood that they could have spent a lot on -Marketing, Landscaping, Construction (As their Quality of Construction is considered as very good and often highly rated by Qlassic if you know what that is) For a normal contractor / developer / QS, they used to calculate Average Cost by PSF (it may differs from Location) |
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Aug 30 2021, 09:58 PM
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I guess trying to flip for profit after conversion to freehold
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Aug 30 2021, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 28 2021, 06:02 PM) +1 wah last time u just a kiddoI am an Ecoworld owner (but Eco Majestic in Semenyih) I know the land here is obviously cheaper, but what we notice is that the gap between precincts are very big (basically a lot of buffer from perimeter fencing to main road) No matter how many times we try to roughly calculate the cost of materials in building a house + land, it's very hard to believe that EW can still make a decent profit out of it. A lot of cost in maintaining the common area landscaping (outside of precinct, so no sinking fund used), too. ![]() now u owner of ecoworld wah lao ... |
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QUOTE(victorian @ Aug 30 2021, 10:06 PM) Boss any tips on ecoworld project ? asking price nowadays I would say it's about the same as when they were new, or slightly lower, lol.Any units still available ? Looking for a gated and guard, new project and I believe most of them are at outskirt kl right. May I know how much is the asking price nowadays? I bought my unit as subsale from the original owner, lower than SPA price in 2019, pretty standard these days but the prices surprisingly held steady despite MCO. It's good la, ecoworld projects. Very safe and secure, just be mindful that you're buying a stratified property. please don't buy here if you're not prepared to follow house rules eric8618 liked this post
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Aug 30 2021, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 30 2021, 10:18 PM) asking price nowadays I would say it's about the same as when they were new, or slightly lower, lol. post la your house addressI bought my unit as subsale from the original owner, lower than SPA price in 2019, pretty standard these days but the prices surprisingly held steady despite MCO. It's good la, ecoworld projects. Very safe and secure, just be mindful that you're buying a stratified property. please don't buy here if you're not prepared to follow house rules |
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Aug 30 2021, 10:36 PM
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This kind of house 838K !!
Wow what a world has became now. |
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QUOTE(RedBishop @ Aug 30 2021, 04:07 PM) Hi there, From construction cost alone....I would say, it's over estimated by quite a bit......First of all, the average costing is determined by -Construction (Including Raw Materials, and calculation of Inflation) -Contribution Costs (To Government) -Infrastructure -Marketing -Landscaping/Facilities It's very hard to explain in % as most of the Developers have different calculation and segmentation, but for Eco World, for sure we understood that they could have spent a lot on -Marketing, Landscaping, Construction (As their Quality of Construction is considered as very good and often highly rated by Qlassic if you know what that is) For a normal contractor / developer / QS, they used to calculate Average Cost by PSF (it may differs from Location) |
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Aug 30 2021, 11:49 PM
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Mahal dan jauh gila sial!
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Aug 30 2021, 11:53 PM
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Crazy Design back of house !
just a matter of time leaks in coming ! |
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got extra money can buy and wait for 10yrs at least for the area to develop, just like the Dedaun bungalow lot down the road, last time quite cheap when launching.
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Aug 31 2021, 09:52 AM
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even mistress don't wan live at there ...
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Aug 31 2021, 05:20 PM
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