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 why so many EcoWorld Horizon houses for sale?, batu kawan?

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post Aug 28 2021, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(ericangtzeann @ Aug 28 2021, 11:41 AM)
Ulu area who wants, faster pass on to next water fish lar. Else later cry till red eye 🤭
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Factories in Batu Kawan doing quire well before the pandamic.

Problem with this eco world development is that it is leasehold but still so expensive. Freehold penang mainland is cheap.

If cheaper and leasehold maybe ok

If expensive and freehold also maybe ok

But it is both expensive and leasehold, I don't think many penang lang will want. At that price might as well buy landed in island.

850k can buy in good location on island already
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post Aug 28 2021, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Aug 28 2021, 12:26 PM)
RM850k can buy landed in Penang? balik pulau also not as cheap as this price now.
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older ones lah

in the south

https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/bayan-lep...Price=900000&l1


tanjung bungah even have one
https://www.iproperty.com.my/property/tanju...sale-102025480/


ayer itam
https://www.iproperty.com.my/sale/ayer-itam...Price=900000&l1






700k-800k in balik pulua are those new houses in botanica ct only


I think Penang lang always overestimate the cost of landed house there

It is similar to places like Subang and PJ
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post Aug 28 2021, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(GOPI56 @ Aug 28 2021, 12:44 PM)
Strata title houses I think...
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means have to pay high maintenance fees as well since city council won't be maintaining the roads inside the taman
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post Aug 28 2021, 01:30 PM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Aug 28 2021, 01:22 PM)
Sub sales can not count like this. sub sale you can use RM2.8million to buy RM4.5million house which LGE done before.
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so means actual selling price even lower than listing

which further proves my point.

850k can get freehold landed on island, not many willing to fork out the same amount for mainland leasehold.

landscaping isn't that important to most malaysians
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post Aug 28 2021, 05:05 PM

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QUOTE(tky1993 @ Aug 28 2021, 02:02 PM)
These are exactly the low class slums Im talkin about lo. Prefer to stay in slums then complain why got low class mentality neighbour, why strangers can cum in rob their hse, why some owners not paying maintenance fees yet nothing can be done.

They didnt mention in ecoworld neighbourhood, the guard roaming around the taman every 2-3 hours and punching checkpoints in every corner. You dont even need to install grille in these houses.
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why so butthurt?

I'm just talking about the average house buyer and explaining why this isn't doing well


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post Aug 28 2021, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ChAOoz @ Aug 28 2021, 04:39 PM)
For this kind of houses with township planning and gated/guarded that is around the price.

For penang island those with similar township planning for comparison:

Botanica - balik pulau
Southbay - batu maung
Quayside - tg tokong
Permai garden - tg bungah

Still got some boutique one with not as large township but yeah prices not cheap for these that want “clean/neat” neighbourhood.

Those you mentioned one some are old neighbourhood with alot of legacy issues, like drainage, illegal parkings, small narrow lorongs etc.
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true, but I'm saying that when comparing location vs well-planned neighborhood, most msians and penang lang would choose the former.

If I have 800k-900k to buy a house in penang, I rather buy an old double storey in tanjung bungah than those places you listed.

same in KV, rather buy in old PJ neighborhood than buy nicer taman in Setia Alam
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post Aug 28 2021, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(blanket84 @ Aug 28 2021, 05:05 PM)
Batu kawan is like meru right? Full of workers hostels.
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no

more like setia alam


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post Aug 28 2021, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(RedBishop @ Aug 28 2021, 05:12 PM)
Yes you are right, but you have to understand the people/market of Mainland vs Island.

Population @ Island 700k, Mainland is 1mil

People from mainland doesn't want to stay far away from their parents (Chinese Mentality)

They pick up good/premium places like Eco World.

Thats why you can see a lot of young people/couple with flashy cars driving around that Taman (Eco Horizon)
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good point

Forgot that mainlanders are also penang lang tongue.gif


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post Aug 28 2021, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(uk15029 @ Aug 28 2021, 05:45 PM)
It's a freehold actually
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rest of batu kawan is freehold, but the eco horizon is leasehold
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post Aug 28 2021, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(RedBishop @ Aug 28 2021, 05:50 PM)
already converted to freehold by the developer
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Really???

Never heard of developer doing that before
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post Aug 28 2021, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 28 2021, 06:02 PM)
+1

I am an Ecoworld owner (but Eco Majestic in Semenyih)

I know the land here is obviously cheaper, but what we notice is that the gap between precincts are very big (basically a lot of buffer from perimeter fencing to main road)

No matter how many times we try to roughly calculate the cost of materials in building a house + land, it's very hard to believe that EW can still make a decent profit out of it. A lot of cost in maintaining the common area landscaping (outside of precinct, so no sinking fund used), too.
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how much you paying for maintenance?

 

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