Rejected could mean authentic article of clothings that are substandard in quality, no?

BRo rejected can never be ORIGINAL as the strict control of quality.Each manufacturer has a certain level of quality control for their item.so REJECTED jersey isnt up to their standard@manufacturer hence it is dispose of or sold cheaper to reduce losses.a simple way la rejected jersey has a lot of flaws and original jersey is perfect.

original means an original or primary source from the originator. how could it be original if the stock has been declined and rejected by nike?

no point of argue rejected vs original as it's different opinion from one person to others... but i do see some authorized NIKE/ADIDAS shop selling their rejected product...but their clearly stated that the item was a reject item ( due the price is way cheaper than others )
p/s : for me... i don't mind buying for rejected cloth product becoz the item basicly use the same material as original(not reject) just maybe the tag@the printed design@the sewing isn't up to the quality they needed ( for cloth branded item the most importantly is the quality of the material right??? but it's if me who choose lar~!!! )

This post has been edited by budakdegilz: Sep 14 2007, 04:09 PM

Whatever that comes out from the Nike factory is original.

Whatever that comes from the hand of some Cambodian child is imitation.

Article of clothings that came out from the Nike factory but got rejected because of substandard qualities are still considered originals because it was produced by Nike, not some Ah Bengs in Kepong or something.

No?

Before the discussion goes any further, I suggest participants fully understand the HUGE differences between REJECTED and ORIGINAL first. They're not even interrelated at the first place.

My friend bought a Burberry bag about RM500 cheaper from the retail price because there was a small stitching problem at the bottom, but the bag IS original because he bought it from Burberry itself. How do you explain that?

This post has been edited by blinky: Sep 14 2007, 04:06 PM

There's no rule that rejected can't be sold, its just that in this case, there's a misleading, the seller stated that the jersey was Original, not Rejected.

Hence most people would take that as "original at a cheaper price", not "original with flaws and at a cheaper price", there wasn't mentioned by the seller about flaws, right?

So, as a buyer which doubts the quality and the originality of the product purchased, why can't he pose questions about the said product?

So, if the seller is selling a rejected article, he should've specified it as "Nike Original Rejected Jersey".
Then there's an understanding from the buyer that the article mentioned is with flaws, either stiching problem, colour problem etc.

erm.. do you know that most factories aren't owned by Nike/Adidas etc.
They outsource their product from third party factories which bounds by contracts.
If Nike would've canceled their contract, and the factory still have some leftover material to make and sell Nike products without being caught by Nike at a very low price to cover their losses. So, are those still Originals?

PS. Did the Burberry shop disclose to your friend that it was a product with a flaw/rejected? or did your friend discovered the problem him/herself? If the shop didn't mention the product had a problem, you could get it changed, in accordance to the shop's return policy of course.

This product is consider as REJECTED item not ORIGINAL item. Even the retail shop is selling them, they will tag it as REJECTED or problems products, do they tag them as ORIGNAL product? How do you explain that? If this vincent doesn't defined this product as REJECTED products, don't tell me as consumer you expect those products could be REJECTED products.

This post has been edited by xplora: Sep 14 2007, 06:30 PM

I did not defend the fact that these products are rejected ones.

They ARE rejected products, that I cannot deny.

I'm just going against the claims of many people that these are illegitimate stocks.

There is nothing illegitimate about them because they are manufactured by Nike or whatever brands.

They are simply just ORIGINAL clothings that are REJECTED due to substandard qualities.

Right? No?

Claiming a product to be ORIGINAL BUT REJECTED and claiming a product to be ILLEGITIMATE AND REJECTED are very different, in case you hadn't realise.

This post has been edited by blinky: Sep 14 2007, 06:33 PM

Nope, they are not original because they are not according to Nike QC

Ok, I'm done with your general knowledge.

One question before I stay out of this thread.

Assuming the jerseys WERE from Nike, but got rejected due to substandard quality, and you claiming that they are imitations, then tell me, who produced these "imitations"?.

Like I said earlier, the Burberry bag my friend bought for RM500 less cause of stitching problems, does it make the bag an imitation because it does not comply to Burberry's QC? But my friend bought it from Burberry itself, how?

And going by your logic, maybe you should start reporting to DBKL and MPPJ and get them to raid all FOS outlets since they are all selling "imitations" because they did not comply to Nike, Tommy Hilfiger, DKNY etc.'s QC.

What a joke.

This post has been edited by blinky: Sep 14 2007, 06:39 PM

Since when i mentioned this product is imitations? Where? I only mentioned this product is REJECTED products.

Not being original makes them?

Go check up on Antonyms on your dictionary or whatever, please.

so does it mean imitations?

Hahahaha ok I'm not even going to answer that.

Anyway, here's English 101 from your friendly neighbourhood English writer.

The opposite of REJECTED is ACCEPTED

The opposite of ORIGINAL is UNORIGINAL OR IMITATION.

Have a good day

You are funny, i never mentioned these are imitation. What i mean this is not defined as original because it doesn't follow the QC

You know what is QC? Quality Control!

Did i ever mentioned IMITATION? You understand the wrong part and keep saying i mentioned imitations. I am classified them as REJECTED PRODUCTS

Dude, those are REJECTED ORIGINAL PRODUCTS.

You can't just strip the ORIGINAL title from them just because there are defects.

My Proton Waja's gearstick broke off on the first day I went and collect the car, does it mean my car is not original?

Really, put your ego down and think about it.

I thought you are suppose to off right? Why are you keep talking then?

You are changing topic to cars now very good until nothing to talk with? I am sorry, i am talking about clothes now. That is your CAR warranty. Clothes got no warranty.

You keep saying your english is good right? Sorry my english is not good until your level. I never mentioned it is imitation did i? I just mentioned them as REJECTED PRODUCTS OR NOT ORIGINAL because it DOES not FOLLOW the Quality Control.

If you wish to win, then go ahead. I am wrong then.

This post has been edited by xplora: Sep 14 2007, 06:54 PM

As you wish, I'm going off

Guess your ego and pride got the better of you.

I'll let other members comment on this issue.

Have a good weekend, spare some time reading up the thesaurus dictionary when you have the time.

Nope i dont need them thanks. i dont need those anymore after i've got IELTS for my university entry. Thanks for starting the flame at the beginning.

This post has been edited by xplora: Sep 14 2007, 07:07 PM

look whose barking, ....here doggie....enuf lo, don bark all da way, later ppl catch eh,, LOL

This post has been edited by luKU: Sep 14 2007, 09:33 PM