with 195/60, the overall wheel radius will be larger, but i believe the % larger is tolerable since the wheel arc is quite far away...

but usually most people will change to 195/55/15 instead of 195/60/15...

my self also surveying for replacement tyres as well coz mine will becoming 2 years old + already cover 20K km oledi...

u may visit the pinned thread on this FnF board for tyre advice..

195/55/15 will be smaller than the stock 185/60/15 while 195/60/15 will definitely bigger than the stock one...

yes... the 195 itself is the tyre width... correct... but what make the tyre calculation different is the seconed one... example:

185/60/15 means the tyre side wall thickness is 60% of 185cm = 111cm

195/55/15 means the tyre side wall thickness is 55% of 195cm = 107.25cm

so when both tyres are fitted to 15" RIM, the overall diameter (note: note tyre width, but the rolling diameter) of the tyre+wheel combo will be different, making the 195/55/15 combo smaller than the stock (185/60/15) and that will effect on the accuracy of the read out at odo meter, but the % is still consider acceptable by normal usage stand point a.k.a. no need to go for meter calibration at least...

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Added on May 20, 2008, 8:13 amhi dude06,

i never personally confirmed but the additional 1.99% in the overall diameter should not be a problem as i think the wheel arc is much further away...

however do remember when u travel at 110km/h on ur speedometer, actually u are travelling at 112km/h.... hehe


This post has been edited by leowhy: May 20 2008, 08:13 AM

140km/h!!! haha... that's the main killer for the higher FC in your case, coz running at that speed, part of the fuel burnt into energy is used to overcome the drag instead of contributing all into ur milage...

usually, i'll try to maintain 100-110km/h for best fuel efficiency...

also more stop+acceleration will also drain ur fuel fast...

did they pass back the remaining oil inside the 4L bottle to u? from there u should know its mineral or semi-syn...

hahaha... all those theorys between whether baking-in ur engine the "soft" way or "hard" way all have their own stand & reasonable explaination behind... so we just choose to believe what's making the most senses in our own understanding loh...

not quite true, i changed to full-syn from semi-syn during my 20k km service & eversince i noticed that my FC is slightly worsen...

so meaning if we drive it mostly for city driving (more stop & pickups), the engine will become more "hardworking"?
but that'll translate to higher consumption anyway...

yeah... Latio best in this department among the three...

same for me here...
i get ~11-13km/L for city driving & i can manage to get 16-18km/L for highway driving... always 2 adult (including me) + 1 child with extra luggages during highway travellings...

chances are... u rev more than neccesary in order to reach the 60-80km/h...

well, i ecourage u to open a thread just to say that instead of saying it here where most people here in this thread is the owner of the vios...

what would u expect them to do? immediately sell off?

and while speaking it to be so bad, why not at the same time to suggest an alternative which is... at least by ur standard, an alternative car that's worth all the every single penny...

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Added on June 12, 2008, 5:32 pmurs still under warranty... so wait 1st...

This post has been edited by leowhy: Jun 12 2008, 05:32 PM

all in all,

life style in US and malaysia is definitely not the same...

while there is many many bad points about malaysia, US does have its fare share of problems... but of course that is another story...

so while u can enjoy the benefits in automobile arena there, do enjoy to the fullest... as i said, many are not as lucky or fortunate to have this chance...

well, theoritically yes... but u need to keep an eye on the workmanship of the people performing the job...

accidental touches tend to happen...

BTW, do they include leather wrapping for the door panels as well?

different built materials and diffrent built process will determine the costs for the rims... generally, the lighter the more expansive...

that comes to about 12.4km/L, consider good if that's mainly on city driving...

larger rims, while they look nicer, they are also much heavier & that translate to u'll feel more underpower & suffer higher FC... unless u go for light weight rims, but those will cost at least twice ur budget...

do u guys still using the stock tyre? a.k.a. the potenza RE080 (185/60/R15) ?? my situation is similar to dstl1128...

recently i pumped the front to around 2.4 while the rear to 2.2... will monitor the pressure drop...

side topic:
yesterday night i removed some stuff from my car:

1) spare tyre - wow... 15.5kg
2) jack ~2.5kg
3) a boot seperation platform ~5kg
4) misc stuff (jumper cable being the heaviest here) ~6.5kg
5) original carpet ~3.5kg

hehe... a total of ~30kg reduction...

if ur spare tyre is the same as the stock tyres (a.k.a. the bridgestone 185/60/R15, only that its fitted on a normal steel rim) & since the size is standard, the usual 2.1-2.2 would be sufficient...

ouch... i just read somewhere not long ago on this thinner spare tyre pressure but forgot where oledi... but its just quotes from others only too... not sure about the reliability of the info... for these thinner spare tyres, we should pump more... around 2.5-2.6 if i remember correctly from that piece of info...

depends on ur own preferences actually, but for me, i would skip the E Spec totally...
between G & S, u decide for ur self whether the extra money worth the extras given in the S-Spec...

if very budget constrain but still insist on getting a Vios(Toyota mah)... then pick the J... but bear in mind J spec is the very very basic variant, even doesn't have any airbag for example... but u're down this path, do consider the manual version as its something "different" from the other higher spec variant......

well, what ur opposite uncle mention is true for malaysian launched vios but for other contry, the manual variant is not something new...
read this...

er... ayer hitam? i believe should be air itam... its on the penang island & that is where Kek Lok Si tample & Bukit bendera situated near by...
hope this help...

that is not the correct way... even low usage, it is still better to follow service period even the milage haven't achieve spesific figure...

if u travel from Kl, i assume u'll start from damansar tol
then its
damansarsa tol-south ipoh tol = RM???
south ipoh tol-north ipoh tol(jelapang) = free
north ipoh tol-Juru tol=Rm16.8 (around that)
then the penang bridge tol=RM7

ipoh tols are under reconstruction, not sure the latest status now...