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 DG Hisham: KKM MAY start using Ivermectin

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SUSslimey
post Jul 11 2021, 08:24 AM


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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 11 2021, 08:02 AM)
He got no choice now but to allow ivermectine

mRNA VACCINE INVENTOR CALLS FOR STOP OF COVID VAX
https://thehighwire.com/videos/mrna-vaccine...p-of-covid-vax/

go watch that video.
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Lel. Another Malone.
SUSslimey
post Jul 11 2021, 08:34 AM


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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 11 2021, 08:33 AM)
that video is 1 hour 40 mins, but it took you 27 mins to reply me with your con-clusion. LOL
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The Malone video has been discredited and debunked many times liao
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post Jul 11 2021, 08:40 AM


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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 11 2021, 08:39 AM)
ofcause debunk by the manufacturer lah.. u think they will let u get in the way of their fortunes?
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Dah dah dah.

You are just another tin kosong. No substance
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post Jul 11 2021, 09:03 AM


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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 11 2021, 08:45 AM)
The Lancet peer reviewed study confirms vaccine efficacy, not at 95%, but as:

* Astra Zeneca 1.3%
* Moderna 1.2%
* J&J 1.2%
* Pfizer 0.84%

They deceived everyone by reporting Relative Risk Reduction (RRR) rather than Absolute Risk Reduction (ARR)
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pi...%2821%2900069-0

https://twitter.com/MindshockPod/status/1414007190898229250
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“Let’s say a study enrolled 20,000 patients into the control group and 20,000 in the vaccine group. In that study, 200 people in the control group got sick and 0 people in the vaccine group got sick. Even though the vaccine efficacy would be a whopping 100%, the ARR would show that vaccines reduce the absolute risk by just 1% (200/20,000= 1%). For the ARR to increase to 20% in our example study with a vaccine with 100% efficacy, 4,000 of the 20,000 people in the control group would have to get sick (4,000/20,000= 20%).”

see the issue with ARR?
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post Jul 11 2021, 09:42 AM


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QUOTE(lowya @ Jul 11 2021, 09:25 AM)
the real issue is Vit D is likely to beat that ARR of vax of merely 1% out of it's living daylight. 20k subject is not even enough to represent human genome, worse to use RRR for marketing to 3 years olds.

do u know what is <1% ARR called? placeabo. Almost do nothing to reduce your risk, except maybe increase it as we found out later on:



how many times u want me to explain this? Please don't reply me, i don't want to waste more time on people that don't matter to me.
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it is just an example on how arr is calculated.

again you just bring in some words without supporting evidence.............tin kosong je
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post Jul 12 2021, 12:23 AM


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QUOTE(diffyhelman2 @ Jul 12 2021, 12:06 AM)
I think you are not getting the idea of ARR. ARR is dependent on the background risk of catching covid in the first place. For the lancet article, they had low ARR because during the time they were doing the trials the  prevalence of Covid was not as high as during the second wave. you mention 5mil/60 mil population in the UK already infected with Sars2-covid. that is for the entire period since pandemic started in Mar 2020. ARR is always calculated base on a defined period (for eg the vaccine trial period).

If you can imagine that over a period of X years, you will have 100% chance of catching covid, then the vaccine ARR = RRR.

This is also why using ARR is problematic during an ongoing infectious pandemic cycle. ARR would be more appropriate if used during a steady state endemic level situation where the background risk is stable and constant. However during a pandemic, the force of the infection is dynamic, if its not well controlled by vaccines, SOP etc, the background risk would increase exponentially. The ironic thing is, the higher the background risk, the higher the ARR figures would be.
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exactly.

event rate multiply by time would be the real picture.



 

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