Can you list down all your requirements and preferences? Every little detail will help haha.

Reckon it would be easier for everyone to suggest or chip some ideas with an easy list for reference.

a very confusing post, TS doesnt seems to know what he wnats..hence, is juz throwing around ideas and notion that his famili (or relatives) owned contis before and is unreliable..but doesnt seems to address what is unreliable...

First: bajet (budget include purchase price, and maintenance price ok)

then we can start talking...

to some of us used car punters (quoting @zenix) , most cars are pretty reliable..esp now so many spare parts around
(of cuz not too old junk like w126 la, c;mon, w126 shud b in museum dy..old and slow)
other than that, most cars are pretty reliable...and for fun cars, u expect to drive it every day? or juz weekends only?..

this would make a difference...cos there's always the E92 m3...not practical cos 2 door...or the audi A8...practical but, how willing are u to budget for the emergencies... or, u can even consider the S500..which is around 40-50k max (cash la), cheaper than vios and pretty reliable...

MCO stress, so yea, no bulshiat...straight talking ...

This post has been edited by fastreader: Jul 10 2021, 12:33 PM

Thank you for chipping in ideas.

Requirement as below:
Car price 80k
Standby 10k for furnish/change part (if used unit)
For daily use and weekend use
Practical, reliable, fun, all in one
Easy to own and maintain
Should there be any breakdown, spare part should be easy to source and affordable
High availability
No headache

take Japanese model. then start from there. own a Accord 2.4 2015, until now no issues, just regular oil change which I did outside after warranty ended. Cost me around rm160 (0w20 4L + 1L at Hingan Auto Parts), RM25 for Oil Filter. The Air filter, Aircond Cabin filter do on my own, and bought them from Shopee. Brake pad RM190 per pair front tyre, RM170 rear pair.

PS4 235/45/18 cost me rm580/pcs at Oscar Tyres Bukit Kemuning.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: Jul 10 2021, 01:13 PM

> fun, practical, reliable in a conti?
> not more than 7 years old?
> price 80k?
> no headache?
> easy to own and maintain?
> easy to source spart part and affordable?

all these doesn't fit in a conti.
GT86/BRZ probably does the job if practical isn't the thing you are looking for.
Subaru WRX should work fine, if you could spend a little bit more. Do ask the owners of these cars, they are able to give more insight on spare parts and maintenance.

just get a used ketam turbo, fits almost or every requirement.

Accord worth considering, I was looking at Camry before this.
Mustn't be a Conti, it's just that in the Malaysia market, secondhand fun to drive Conti are more accessible (lower price).
Eg: 80k Jap vs 80k Conti, the Conti is more pleasurable to drive, but biggest headache is the maintenance.

The GT86/BRZ won't be in my list for now. Practicality is still having the higher priority.
I was looking at the subbies for a while and the fan base is huge. There is a specialist in Klang Valley. The engine is pretty much okay, but other components are the cause for concern.
For ketam turbo, biggest put off is the CVT

Perhaps my expectation is too high

Have you considered a Honda Civic FN2R?

I believe that's the car you're looking for albeit a bit older than what you're expecting but its bang on the money for your budget and requirements.

It overheated due to the water pump.

Not modded but it had 270,000km on it when it blew.

Unfortunately not had much of a chance to drive it the last 8 months due to work schedule.

Lexus. is not conti.

But since you wanted conti for no specific reason...
i guess you are looking for atasness


i can understand if you wanted Merz/BMW ( brands specific for certain traits )

But specific for conti??? then it must be atasness ( which is something for most malaysian but not me... )

Just go Lexus. you get atasness and reliability in 1 package.

Lexus is250 v6

Older Camry has no relationship with "fun to drive"
New Camry with TNGA yes but you need to pay more

The only reliable conti is Porsche.. but out of your budget.

Japanese brand that is close to conti feel is Mazda.

If you want to take a bit of risk, then older IS250.. be prepared that prices of old Lexus are high.. a used BMW plus maintenance cost also less than a used Lexus.
However, Lexus driving dynamic is still no where close to BMW.. Lexus is mainly aiming for luxury

This post has been edited by twincharger07: Jul 13 2021, 03:47 PM

I drive a Clio RS and from what I know Megane is quite reliable as long as you know the history of the car. My advice when you purchase such a car is to join a club because I've found out that it can help a lot especially when you're faced with problems. Buying a car with a recorded history will help a lot in terms of reliability.

Thank you for the constructive comment, it is really helpful.
Is the older accord fun to drive may I ask?

Actually I don't mind too much on the brand or make.
The main purpose I would prefer a continental is that the technology much more advance and the resale value is much lower.
That means with a lower budget, for example RM80K, we are able to obtain a more "luxurious and faster" conti than japanese.
With that being said, the main concern for conti is still the reliability, which puts me off everytime I looked into one.

The older IS250 price really does have an awesome resale value, which means we have to fork out more.
Any comment on IS250 vs 218i Active Tourer vs B200?
Not exactly a really fair comparison but at least it (almost) matches my requirement;
Certainly, main concern is still the reliability
Great idea, will try to scout around for some megane/renault related club.
Thus far, it is really limited, will do more survey on this.
As far as I can comment, I am aware that Renault is related with Nissan, but not sure the same can be said for it's reliabililty.

you are aware megane is manual only? And if you're looking at Renault Club then I'm in the Renaultsport Club, only for Renaultsport models. Most of the members own Megane RS.
Clio RS shares same engine with Nissan Juke Nismo (not officially sold in Malaysia) but Megane RS doesn't share engines with Nissan.

go for F30. I am driving a 328i Msport. This is the 7th year clocked 150k. Only replace the wear and tear parts. 1 wheel speed sensor, 1 oil pan gasket. That's all. The most expensive parts is the adaptive suspension, but I consider that as wear an tear. You can always refurbish the shock instead of replacing full set.
The only draw back is the sound insulation for F30 is very bad.

Have you fixed the timing chain issue?

this one is known issue? or happen selectively to a certain engine models?

all this adaptive can be repair?
May i know where you go although i'm from PG?

No. I asked the foreman, he said no need. Just need to monitor. It won't kill the engine instantly when the chain stretch.