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post Jul 6 2021, 05:15 AM, updated 5y ago

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A crime-linked owner of a large casino and resort in Southeast Asia’s Golden Triangle has resumed construction on a private airport in a bid to bring more tourists into his large resort and special economic zone, sources say.
Zhao Wei, chairman of the Dok Ngiew Kham Group and owner of the Golden Triangle Special Economic Zone (SEZ) in Bokeo’s Tonpheung district, has been tied to human trafficking, money laundering, and the illegal trade in drugs and wildlife products.
In 2018, the U.S. Treasury Department declared the Zhao Wei business network, including the Golden Triangle’s well-known Kings Romans Casino, a “transnational criminal organization” (TCO) and sanctioned Zhao and three other individuals and companies across Laos, Thailand, and Hong Kong.
Speaking to Radio Free Asia (RFA) a member of the Golden Triangle SEZ management team said the Dok Ngiew Kham Group and Kings Romans are now clearing land for a new airport after making payments in compensation to area landowners who had previously objected to the work.
“It seems that all landowners are happy with the compensation they’ve received, and are showing no objection to the land-clearing process,” the Dok Ngiew Kham official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
“The company is planning to complete the construction of the airport and to welcome more tourists in 2022,” he said.
A woman living in the Tonpheung district who lost her land to the project confirmed the work was going ahead and said she was happy with the payment she had received, adding, “At first, many of us were opposed to the construction plan, but now all of us have given up our resistance to the project and have accepted compensation.”
Airport may increase illegal activities
Other local residents were less happy with the project, though, with one Bokeo villager saying the new private airport is being built only to bring in large numbers of wealthy tourists and won’t benefit the local population.
“This airport isn’t needed, because we already has an airport in the town of Houayxay,” the resident said. “The Dok Ngiew Kham Group wants to build this airport just to serve the wealthy people who want to come gamble at the casino,” he said.
“Zhao Wei, the owner of the Kings Romans Casino, wants to build his own private airport in order to expand his business and serve his customers,” a villager in the town of Houayxay agreed. “We already have an airport here in Houayxay for the general public.”
But while the new airport will mostly help the casino, “it may also bring some benefit to the local people and economy by bringing more tourists into the area,” another local resident said.
Adosorn Semyam—a Thai expert on Laos at the Asia Studies Institute at Thailand’s Chulalongkorn University—voiced concern that with the new airport being built to serve Chinese and not domestic customers, it may soon function as a new route for drug trafficking and other illegal activity.
“This SEZ is a very free and open zone with all kinds of entertainment for tourists, including prostitutes, drugs, and wildlife,” agreed one worker in the Golden Triangle, speaking on condition of anonymity to protect his safety. “These things are available at all the entertainment venues,” he added.
Asked about the presence of illegal activity in the Golden Triangle SEZ in Bokeo and the Boten SEZ in Luang Namtha, also in the country’s north, an official in the Special Economic Zone Control Department of the Lao Ministry of Planning and Investment replied simply, “I can’t comment on that issue.”
In addition to concerns over crime, many in Laos worry about growing Chinese influence as a result of massive investment in hydropower dams, a high-speed railway, and other infrastructure projects under Beijing’s $1.3 trillion Belt and Road Initiative.
China is Laos’ largest foreign investor and aid provider, and its second-largest trade partner after Thailand.

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Zhao Wei is a Chinese gangster and the founder of Hong Kong-registered company Kings Romans Group (formed in 2007), which owns the Kings Romans casino franchise. Zhao Wei is currently under sanctions by the United States Treasury Department for his involvement in laundering money and assisting in the storage and distribution of heroin, methamphetamine, and other narcotics for illicit networks, including the United Wa State Army which operates in Myanmar. Based in Laos within the Golden Triangle Special Economic Zone (GTSEZ), Zhao Wei is also reported to engage in human trafficking, bribery, wildlife trafficking and other forms of transnational organized crime. Much of this illicit activity is facilitated through the Kings Romans casino franchise located within the GTSEZ.
Born in Heilongjiang, China, Zhao Wei started out as a timber trader before moving into Macau in 1990s where he holds permanent residency and began investing on numerous casino establishments. In 2001, Zhao Wei moved to Mong La, Myanmar where he founded first casino franchise, Landun Entertainment. He established ties with National Democratic Alliance Army whose leader, Sai Leun financed the operations of the casino industry in Mong La. In 2005, China imposed a travel ban to Mong La following reports of officials gambling state funds. The travel ban led into shuttering of many casinos within the city.
Soon after the travel ban was imposed, Zhao was invited by government of Laos to invest in Bokeo Province. In 2007, Zhao negotiated and struck a 99-year lease with them to establish and operate the Golden Triangle Special Economic Zone, which was located in the same province. In early October 2020, a $50 million dollar investment to build a port in the Laotian town of Ban Mom, directly north of the Golden Triangle Special Economic Zone, was made by Osiano Trading Sole Co., a partner or front company of Zhao Wei and his organization. The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) has raised concerns several times about Laos being used by organized crime to traffic drugs, precursor chemicals and other illicit commodities, and that the purchase of the Ban Mom port is a representation of organized crime infiltrating critical infrastructure in the region. The Ban Mom port is located in the remote stretches of Mekong River which has been confirmed as a smuggling route for trafficking drugs and precursor chemicals into and out of the Golden Triangle.
Zhao Wei is married to Chinese Australian Su Guiqin (born 1960). Alongside her husband, Su Guiqin runs the Kings Romans casino.

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Several Chinese killed in shootout near Kings Romans casino in Laos
A notorious casino in Laos is at the center of a police investigation into a shootout that resulted in the deaths of four Chinese nationals.
Earlier this month, Lao police reported being called to the Kings Romans Casino in the Golden Triangle Special Economic Zone near the intersecting borders of Thailand and Myanmar. According to some accounts, the call came after three Chinese nationals entered the casino with a suitcase containing around RMB1m (US$143k) in cash.
According to some reports, the Chinese nationals brought the cash to make good on a gambling debt but some kind of argument ensued, resulting in their decision to flee with the cash, with other Chinese nationals in hot pursuit. A shootout occurred in which the three Chinese who fled the casino were killed by their pursuing countrymen, one of whom was subsequently shot and killed by police.
However, other reports claim that four Chinese nationals were killed and a fifth wounded in a rented house near the casino in an apparent robbery. The alleged robbers, a Chinese man and his wife, then fled the scene with stolen cash only to be cornered by police the following day, resulting in a shootout and the arrest of the wounded husband, while the wife reportedly escaped.
Whatever the truth, it’s par for the course for the Kings Romans venue, which last year was the site of a daring robbery in which a gang of robbers dressed as Chinese police relieved the property of around RMB3m.
Kings Romans is owned by Chinese national Zhao Wei, who US officials have accused of being the head of a ‘transnational criminal organization’ involved in trafficking everything from drugs to endangered wildlife to human beings. Zhao has dismissed the allegations as “malicious rumor-mongering.”
Like most casinos around the world, Kings Romans was shut down earlier this year to minimize COVID-19 transmission. The property was only just cleared to reopen several days before the shootings of the Chinese nationals.

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Kings Romans Casino robbery ringleader busted in Thailand
Thailand authorities have arrested the suspected ringleader of a group who stuck up the Kings Romans Casino in Laos earlier this year.
On Monday, Thai media reported that immigration police in Samut Prakan province had arrested a Chinese national identified only as Ying who is suspected of leading a gang of 22 robbers who staged a daring heist at the Kings Romans in Laos earlier this year.
The crime was reportedly enabled by Ying dressing up as a Chinese policeman and convincing members of the casino security team to allow several other members of the gang to enter. Other gang members were already on the casino floor, pretending to be gamblers.
Once the gang was all inside, they forced the casino’s actual gamblers to fork over RMB3m (US$427k), while also making off with several smartphones and computers.
Ying reportedly entered Thailand legally in March but Thai immigration officials plan to revoke his visa so that Ying can be extradited to China to face prosecution.
It’s not clear why Ying is going back to China, since Kings Romans is based in the Golden Triangle Special Economic Zone near Laos’ borders with both Thailand and Myanmar, but not China. Clearly, Ying has a rap sheet in his home country that Beijing is determined to enforce.
News of Ying’s arrest came just days before the ministers of public security for both China and Laos announced a plan to enhance law enforcement cooperation between the two countries. Among the naughty behaviors the two parties want to crack down include “telecommunications fraud and online gambling.”
China may also seek to rein in shipments of illegal drugs coming into the country from Laos. In 2018, US officials named Zhao Wei, the co-owner of the Kings Romans Casino, as the head of a ‘transnational criminal organization’ responsible for distribution of heroin, methamphetamine and other illicit substances. Chinese officials have reportedly seized large drug shipments that were eventually traced back to the casino. Zhao Wei has denied the US allegations, calling them “malicious rumor-mongering.”
Laos doesn’t have many casinos, particularly since the government shut down gaming venues in its Boten region, which is close to the Chinese border. Beijing reportedly leaned on the Lao government to act after multiple reports of Chinese citizens being held for ransom because they couldn’t pay their gambling debts.
Besides the Kings Romans, the country’s biggest casino is likely Macau Legend Development’s Savan Legend Resorts in Savannakhet province, which may soon be facing additional financial obligations. In June, the Lao government announced that it would increase its “levy” on casinos from its current 35% to 50%. It’s unclear whether this levy referred to a tax rate or a flat fee.

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Wumao mad dy. Your thread got lipoted for saying harsh truth
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Must be backed by CIA, just like Chang in Ronaapur
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TS you know golden triangle many of them were the remnant of KMT troops who retreated there after they lost the civil war right?

And Cambodia Casino is owned by a Malaysia from Jenjarum.
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TS you know golden triangle many of them were the remnant of KMT troops who retreated there after they lost the civil war right?

And Cambodia Casino is owned by a Malaysia from Jenjarum.
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Not nagaworld the biggest operator in Cambodia?
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Not nagaworld the biggest operator in Cambodia?
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Yes, and it is owned by Malaysian.

They have special agreement with Hunsen, no other casino can get nearer than 100km from Nagaworld.

Those is Shihanaukville are all dying now, because the Chyna government is forcing Hunsen to shut them down.
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TS you know golden triangle many of them were the remnant of KMT troops who retreated there after they lost the civil war right?

And Cambodia Casino is owned by a Malaysia from Jenjarum.
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Born in Heilongjiang, China, Zhao Wei started out as a timber trader before moving into Macau in 1990s

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Ying reportedly entered Thailand legally in March but Thai immigration officials plan to revoke his visa so that Ying can be extradited to China to face prosecution.
It’s not clear why Ying is going back to China, since Kings Romans is based in the Golden Triangle Special Economic Zone near Laos’ borders with both Thailand and Myanmar, but not China. Clearly, Ying has a rap sheet in his home country that Beijing is determined to enforce.

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jul 6 2021, 07:20 AM)
Yes, and it is owned by Malaysian.

They have special agreement with Hunsen, no other casino can get nearer than 100km from Nagaworld.

Those is Shihanaukville are all dying now, because the Chyna government is forcing Hunsen to shut them down.
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Why China wants Cambodia to shut down the casino in there?
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QUOTE(drug5 @ Jul 6 2021, 07:17 AM)
Not nagaworld the biggest operator in Cambodia?
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jul 6 2021, 07:20 AM)
Yes, and it is owned by Malaysian.

They have special agreement with Hunsen, no other casino can get nearer than 100km from Nagaworld.

Those is Shihanaukville are all dying now, because the Chyna government is forcing Hunsen to shut them down.
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Besides the Kings Romans, the country’s biggest casino is likely Macau Legend Development’s Savan Legend Resorts in Savannakhet province

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Stopped reading at Radio Free Asia nuff said.
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Cambodia overun by China people.
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So you know this guys is a gangster and he will be prosecuted once he returned to Chyna right?

It is laos decided to let him stay there.
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Why China wants Cambodia to shut down the casino in there?
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Chyna shut down all Casinos / Online gambling etc all over the globe as long as they found out they were operated by Chinese and using WeChat pay and Alipay as money laundering tools.
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send so much money into a country to build infra knowing they can't repay u
thn u own the country...they have to do whatever u say

that's how they do it
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send so much money into a country to build infra knowing they can't repay u
thn u own the country...they have to do whatever u say

that's how they do it
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Yes, send the freedom bomb better. brows.gif
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Wumao mad dy. Your thread got lipoted for saying harsh truth
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Yap Ah Loy of Laos?

Probably another city built from gangsterism. Even if the boss is caught and executed, this city may still flourish from its location, at the heart of the golden triangle
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People use casino to launder money.
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QUOTE(Slowpokeking @ Jul 6 2021, 07:08 AM)
Must be backed by CIA, just like Chang in Ronaapur
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 6 2021, 07:30 AM)
send so much money into a country to build infra knowing they can't repay u
thn u own the country...they have to do whatever u say

that's how they do it
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Reminds me of my trip to Sihanouk which is totally unpleasant with all those massive construction where most rows of buildings are casinos and the majority of the tourists are PRCs. It seems like traveling in Malaysia is also cheaper than traveling around Cambodia on taxi.

Beaches and seaside view may be beautiful (which beaches don't?) but other than that it is obvious that the majority of the citizens there are of the uneducated and poor and can only watch the Chinese from afar enjoying the cleaner beaches of their country - as beaches are privatized for tourists and they borders are set as a deterrent which they complied to.

Plenty of crap to say about that place, and wouldn't recommend the area for travel as it they are no match to Thailand... unless you want to flex in social media spending USDs on this undeveloped country where the cost of living is equivalent to US & Europe.
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Lol. Radio Free Asia…. rolleyes.gif

What’s next? Falunggong is real news and not a anti China cult? rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jul 6 2021, 09:39 AM)
Reminds me of my trip to Sihanouk which is totally unpleasant with all those massive construction where most rows of buildings are casinos and the majority of the tourists are PRCs. It seems like traveling in Malaysia is also cheaper than traveling around Cambodia on taxi.

Beaches and seaside view may be beautiful (which beaches don't?) but other than that it is obvious that the majority of the citizens there are of the uneducated and poor and can only watch the Chinese from afar enjoying the cleaner beaches of their country - as beaches are privatized for tourists and they borders are set as a deterrent which they complied to.

Plenty of crap to say about that place, and wouldn't recommend the area for travel as it they are no match to Thailand... unless you want to flex in social media spending USDs on this undeveloped country where the cost of living is equivalent to US & Europe.
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I on the other hand enjoy my stay there.

Why so tense judge this and that when go holiday?

Open mind la don’t so easily dengki.

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I on the other hand enjoy my stay there.

Why so tense judge this and that when go holiday?

Open mind la don’t so easily dengki.
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Because holidays is supposed to be relaxing or pleasurable or both?

Didn't know it has to do with jealousy.
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QUOTE(hammer2020 @ Jul 6 2021, 08:39 AM)
Lol. Radio Free Asia…. rolleyes.gif

What’s next? Falunggong is real news and not a anti China cult? rolleyes.gif
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Publisher is Changraitimes, they just told Radio Free Asia.
Don't come with your whataboutism again, it doesn't make the report less true in any sense.
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If you’ve been to outskirts casino towns in Cambodia u know how cowboy it is.
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Just like Myanmar, all the drug lord control the gov regardless under the junta or even democratic Aung San Suu Kyi.... nod.gif


Shadowy Drug Lord Wei Hsueh-kang’s Influence Still Felt in Myanmar’s Wa Region and Beyond



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picture-State Counselor Daw Aung San Suu Kyi welcomes the United Wa State Army delegation to the National Reconciliation and Peace Centre in July 2018. / Myanmar News Agency


By Aung Zaw 9 March 2020

His Burmese name is U Sein Win, though he doesn’t speak Burmese. His primary language is Chinese—a colloquial, unpolished variety of the Yunnan dialect.

One of Southeast Asia’s most notorious drug lords, he has spent the past decade lying low somewhere along the Myanmar-China border. And he recently held a meeting with Myanmar officials in Kunming, China.

Wei Hsueh-kang (as he is more commonly referred to), now in his 70s, may be shadowy, but he is far from unknown to the powers that be in Myanmar and elsewhere in Southeast Asia. Speaking through an interpreter, the fugitive drug lord, who presides over a vast business empire, asked Myanmar peace officials in December to convey to State Counselor Daw Aung San Suu Kyi an invitation to visit Panghsang, the headquarters of the United Wa State Army (UWSA) in the Wa Self-Administered Zone in northern Shan State.

He also promised the Myanmar delegates that a peace deal could be agreed between the central government and the Wa leaders if the State Counselor accepted the invitation and visited the Wa region. Surprised to see him sitting in the room together with the other top Wa leaders, the Myanmar peace negotiators said his unexpected presence made for an awkward meeting, adding that his authority could clearly be felt in the room. They noticed that Bao Youyi, the No. 2 in the UWSA leadership, politely prepared a chair for Wei, a sign of his influence and status as a member of the UWSA’s politburo.


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picture-The US State Department’s announcement in 2009 of a reward for information leading to Wei Hsueh-kang’s arrest.


The Wei brothers

Wei is the most prominent of three brothers. The eldest, Hsueh-long, is believed to have retired, leaving only Hsueh-kang and Hsueh-yin still active.

According to veteran journalist Bertil Lintner, who has written several books on Myanmar and the illicit trade in Shan State, the Wei brothers “were engaged in both espionage and opium trading.”

The Wei brothers were connected with the Kuomintang-CIA spy network along the Yunnan frontier until the Burmese communists drove them out in the 1970s, Lintner notes in his book “Burma In Revolt: Opium and Insurgency Since 1948.”

Wei Hsueh-kang subsequently joined the late drug lord Khun Sa’s Mong Tai Army (MTA), and apparently became treasurer to Khun Sa, who would later briefly detain Wei.

After being released by Khun Sa, Wei fled to Thailand and later traveled to Taiwan. In Thailand, after splitting with Khun Sa, he and his brothers set up a heroin empire along the Thai border with Myanmar and made a fortune. He was also allegedly involved in killing some of Khun Sa’s men in a revenge hit in northern Thailand.

In 1986, Wei was arrested and detained in Thailand. He was sentenced to death but managed to escape and never returned to the country. In Thai he is known as Prasit Chiwinnitipanya, but his Thai nationality was eventually revoked. Since 1993, the US has offered a US$2 million (2.7 billion kyats, at today’s rate) bounty for information leading to his capture or death, as a heroin trafficker.

In 1989, when the Wa rebels reached a ceasefire deal with the Myanmar junta, then known as the State Law and Order Restoration Council (SLORC), Wei returned to Panghsang. He bankrolled the Wa leadership, who at that time were cash-strapped and looking for assistance to rebuild the Wa region and their army, to the tune of several million dollars.

Indeed, Wei was one of the founders of the UWSA and became one of its most prominent politburo members. One seasoned observer described him as the Wa’s “ATM machine”.

At one time, Wei served as a commander in the UWSA and helped Myanmar troops to attack the stronghold of Khun Sa, who finally surrendered to the junta in 1996. Wei was allowed to take control of that MTA area.

In any case, the truce with the regime gave the Wa and other ethnic militias operating in the area, including Kokang insurgents, the opportunity to develop one of the largest drug-running operations in Southeast Asia.

The Myanmar military’s spy intelligence agency issued ID cards for Wa leaders but also provided protection for drug lords. “It is clear that the drug lords in the northeast are enjoying protection from the highest level of Burma’s military establishment, and not just from some corrupt local commanders,” Lintner wrote.


full article - https://www.irrawaddy.com/opinion/commentar...ion-beyond.html

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jul 6 2021, 08:42 AM)
I on the other hand enjoy my stay there.

Why so tense judge this and that when go holiday?

Open mind la don’t so easily dengki.
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if you're going to cambodia for holiday and you're not visiting the ruins?
you're doing it wrong already

u shouldn't be going cambodia for luxury travel and casinos...there are other countries for that...better/more suitable countries
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 6 2021, 09:13 AM)
if you're going to cambodia for holiday and you're not visiting the ruins?
you're doing it wrong already

u shouldn't be going cambodia for luxury travel and casinos...there are other countries for that...better/more suitable countries
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Yeah, Angkor Wat comes into mind when it comes to Cambodia, not Casinos.
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jul 6 2021, 09:45 AM)
Because holidays is supposed to be relaxing or pleasurable or both?

Didn't know it has to do with jealousy.
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I went for holiday and I open minded and dont judge

Example I went to Kolkatta maybe you say wtf so dirty so uncilivian so many bagger , so unrelax, so un pleasure etc etc.

I enjoy bcs i open minded and thats how the community live.

so why dengki?

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Someone told me that Malaysian was in money game, only made open for very rich ppl including billionaires

And of course for such huge money movement u need top banking people help *ahem*

And from there he form the casino in Cambodia

And I do think he suits the title The King of Gambler
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that's not the zhao wei i expected
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jul 6 2021, 09:18 AM)
I went for holiday and I open minded and dont judge

Example I went to Kolkatta maybe you say wtf so dirty so uncilivian so many bagger , so unrelax, so un pleasure etc etc.

I enjoy bcs i open minded and thats how the community live.

so why dengki?
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Wait, you responded on my comments about Sihanouk negatively but claim you are open minded and unjudgmental?

Kek, who are you to say how people are supposed to feel during traveling or review about their experiences. Who's the jealous one now?


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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jul 6 2021, 08:45 AM)
Publisher is Changraitimes, they just told Radio Free Asia.
Don't come with your whataboutism again, it doesn't make the report less true in any sense.
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told RFA means shit to me. Whataboutism my ass.

Anyone can tell anything to make propaganda.

But hey, do swallow propaganda if you like. Just don’t tell me it’s true or it is news. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 6 2021, 07:30 AM)
send so much money into a country to build infra knowing they can't repay u
thn u own the country...they have to do whatever u say

that's how they do it
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New age colonization

Why risk lives, when you can throw money at them

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LOL. i play pc online roulete at the shady shop.. from this casino .
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And guess where these Asian drug lord launder their money??their money becomes legit in little red dot.... tongue.gif


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Singapore accused of hypocrisy on drug stance

By Connie Levett and Rachel Kleinman
November 23, 2005 — 11.00am


https://www.theage.com.au/national/singapor...123-ge1als.html


SINGAPORE'S Government has been accused of hypocrisy in its pursuit of the death penalty against minor drug traffickers while retaining strong economic ties to Burma, a global heroin supplier.

Singapore is Burma's most important investor. Burma, under military control since 1988, is one of the world's biggest heroin sources. The drug accounts for more than half of the country's economy.

Singapore Democratic Party leader Chee Soon Juan said Singapore needed to focus on the Burmese drug lords not on drug "mules" if it was serious about keeping Singapore clean of drugs. "This Government keeps going on about having to take a tough stance on drugs and what a scourge illicit drugs are in our society. Fine, but go and get it at its source," Dr Chee said.

"What's the point of getting the mules? You know these drug lords are just going to find new people to get the drugs."

Dr Chee said Singapore's continuing policy of investing more than $US1 billion ($A1.35 billion) in government funds in Burma despite the regime's complicity in the opium trade was hypocritical. Burma is the biggest single provider of heroin to South-East Asia. "The Singapore Government has access to the Burmese military, it needs to ask them hard questions: what are you doing on the drug lords?" said Dr Chee, who opposes the death penalty.

Singapore has maintained a ruthless public position on drug traffickers and refused to reconsider the death sentence for Melbourne man Nguyen Tuong Van.

Bertil Linter, who has written extensively on Burma's drug trade, said Singapore was the first country to invest heavily in Burma when the regime reopened its borders to foreign investment in the 1990s.

"The main issue was the Traders Hotel, which was built by Asia World, a construction company owned by the Lo family — Lo Hsien Han and his son Steven Law, in conjunction with Singapore interests," Mr Linter said. Lo Hsien Han is widely recognised as one of the most powerful drug lords in Burma and was a frequent visitor to Singapore until recently. His son Steven Law, who has been barred from entering the US on suspicion of involvement in drug trafficking, has an office in Singapore.

The Singapore Government's joint venture with the drug lord came through the Myanmar Fund, set up to channel investment into Burma, which has since been shut down. Singapore's involvement was through its billion-dollar Government Investment Corporation.


Professor Desmond Ball, of the Australian National University's Strategic and Defence Studies Centre, said many Burmese drugs lords used Singapore for banking.

"Some of Burma's closest economic relations are with Singapore," Professor Ball said "A lot of electronic transaction services in Burma are run through Singapore."


Singapore Technologies, a quasi-government agency, also supplied a wide range of services to Burma's ruling junta. "Internet monitoring, telephone monitoring is done with Singaporean equipment and assistance and the cyber warfare office in Rangoon is built and maintained by Singaporeans," he said.

Professor Garry Rodan, from Murdoch University's Asia Research Centre, said the relationship appeared to be one purely of economic gain. "Over the years (the drug issue) has not bothered Singaporean investors a great deal," he said.

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told RFA means shit to me. Whataboutism my ass.

Anyone can tell anything to make propaganda.

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You are just poison pen by accusing others without grounds.
The truth is recognized Chinese gangster exerted extraordinary influence in the running of the country along with a lot of criminal activities.
Refute me about that point if you have evidence otherwise instead of using poison pen tactic or misdirection.
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China drug and gambling lords is plenty abroad, not just in Laos, in some streets of Vietnam too. These gangster needs to be killed without mercy.

Over the years, they will slowly exert their controls starting first with local gov, and slowly move up the rank through corruptible politicians and local officials.
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So you know this guys is a gangster and he will be prosecuted once he returned to Chyna right?

It is laos decided to let him stay there.
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Wait, you responded on my comments about Sihanouk negatively but claim you are open minded and unjudgmental?

Kek, who are you to say how people are supposed to feel during traveling or review about their experiences. Who's the jealous one now?
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You are just poison pen by accusing others without grounds.
The truth is recognized Chinese gangster exerted extraordinary influence in the running of the country along with a lot of criminal activities.
Refute me about that point if you have evidence otherwise instead of using poison pen tactic or misdirection.
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Lol. The moment anything that comes from "China Uncensored" and "Radio Free Asia" or "Daily Mail" as far as I am concerned, they are all US propaganda.

If I put in sources from "CGTN" and "CCTV" saying shit about the US you will start whining "CCP propaganda".

Poison pen? Lol. I am just saying shit as it is. Truth pen more like.

Fact is, US and China are both now in a war - a propaganda war. RFA can be believed as much as shit can be eaten. Likewise one should be wise to treat whatever CGTN or CCTV says about the US.

So now, fuck this "Radio Free Asia" shit. Lies lies and more fucking lies.

Just like how Adrian Zenzs tells from fucking American think tank about Xinjiang, same how this article says about "gangster". Until today I have been looking for a single photo of mass graves in Xinjiang with hundreds of thousands of Uighurs getting "genocided" I got bupkis.

Radio Free Asia? Lol. Try again.
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Lol. The moment anything that comes from "China Uncensored" and "Radio Free Asia" or "Daily Mail" as far as I am concerned, they are all US propaganda.

If I put in sources from "CGTN" and "CCTV" saying shit about the US you will start whining "CCP propaganda".

Poison pen? Lol. I am just saying shit as it is. Truth pen more like.

Fact is, US and China are both now in a war - a propaganda war. RFA can be believed as much as shit can be eaten. Likewise one should be wise to treat whatever CGTN or CCTV says about the US.

So now, fuck this "Radio Free Asia" shit. Lies lies and more fucking lies.

Just like how Adrian Zenzs tells from fucking American think tank about Xinjiang, same how this article says about "gangster". Until today I have been looking for a single photo of mass graves in Xinjiang with hundreds of thousands of Uighurs getting "genocided" I got bupkis.

Radio Free Asia? Lol. Try again.
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China drug and gambling lords is plenty abroad, not just in Laos, in some streets of Vietnam too. These gangster needs to be killed without mercy. 

Over the years, they will slowly exert their controls starting first with local gov, and slowly move up the rank through corruptible politicians and local officials.
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Thanks to the British, they learn the drug trade art from them... nod.gif

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send so much money into a country to build infra knowing they can't repay u
thn u own the country...they have to do whatever u say

that's how they do it
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I believe the word that you're looking for is "loan".

It works both ways, you know. Nothing is free in this world.

Did those countries expect China to give out loans for no reason?
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I am saying the moment there are "Radio Free Asia", "China Uncensored" and other US government or Falunggong or obviously anti China websites post any shit piece about China, I will stop reading after seeing those words.

Same thing with CCTV and CGTN about America.

Yeah. As far I am concerned, lies and propaganda. Not going to waste my time with that kinda shit. rolleyes.gif

The day I swallow Western lies, deceit, propaganda are long over.

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So you are saying that the report is false, and Zhao Wei is indeed a legitimate, honest businessman instead of a gangster and his casino business is clean?
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I am saying the moment there are "Radio Free Asia", "China Uncensored" and other US government or Falunggong or obviously anti China websites post any shit piece about China, I will stop reading after seeing those words.

Same thing with CCTV and CGTN about America.

Yeah. As far I am concerned, lies and propaganda. Not going to waste my time with that kinda shit.  rolleyes.gif

The day I swallow Western lies, deceit, propaganda are long over.
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Don't misdirect the topic, do you think this article is false?
That Zhao Wei is a honest businessman who runs a legitimate casino in Laos, without involvement in crime.
Don't act, pretend, shoot and run away.
Just yes or no.
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As far as I am concerned, even if some facts are true, it will be so heavily slanted to paint a picture worse than it truly is.

So yeah, that is also false to me.

Not going to waste time on that rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jul 6 2021, 12:08 PM)
Don't misdirect the topic, do you think this article is false?
That Zhao Wei is a honest businessman who runs a legitimate casino in Laos, without involvement in crime.
Don't act, pretend, shoot and run away.
Just yes or no.
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I am saying the moment there are "Radio Free Asia", "China Uncensored" and other US government or Falunggong or obviously anti China websites post any shit piece about China, I will stop reading after seeing those words.

Same thing with CCTV and CGTN about America.

Yeah. As far I am concerned, lies and propaganda. Not going to waste my time with that kinda shit.  rolleyes.gif

The day I swallow Western lies, deceit, propaganda are long over.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jul 6 2021, 12:08 PM)
Don't misdirect the topic, do you think this article is false?
That Zhao Wei is a honest businessman who runs a legitimate casino in Laos, without involvement in crime.
Don't act, pretend, shoot and run away.
Just yes or no.
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From my visit to Sihanouk.... the place is surrounded by casinos and ran by PRCs. Development by PRCs. Construction workers and laborers. Many businesses also have PRCs as taukeh. The locals are mostly working in menial jobs as cab drivers, or in those kedai runcits or casino workers. If you think PRCs are running Malaysia, try visiting there and you will understand lucky we are (other than that island around Johor I think).

Of course those syndicate - be it ran by that mobster Zhao Wei or that used-to-be-fapped Zhao Wei was another thing.....
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Hey, Cambodians wanted Chinese money and business. Also, bear in mind those places are designed to attract Chinese gamblers as well.

The PLA did not invade Cambodia to force them to let them run Sihanoukville. This is what everyone forget. China has not let a single of their bombs anywhere around the BRI to compel people to join.

You want their investment, money and infra? Of course you need to accede to their T&Cs. If you don't, just say no. Plenty of countries had. No harm done.

It is after someone takes their money and then whine like a bitch about "debt traps" later that I can't stand. You are all sovereign countries. Most of the democratic. With democracy comes responsibilities. Vote in lah honest leaders.

QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jul 6 2021, 12:25 PM)
From my visit to Sihanouk.... the place is surrounded by casinos and ran by PRCs. Development by PRCs. Construction workers and laborers. Many businesses also have PRCs as taukeh.  The locals are mostly working in menial jobs as cab drivers, or in those kedai runcits or casino workers. If you think PRCs are running Malaysia, try visiting there and you will understand lucky we are (other than that island around Johor I think).

Of course those syndicate - be it ran by that mobster Zhao Wei or that used-to-be-fapped Zhao Wei was another thing.....
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Hey, Cambodians wanted Chinese money and business. Also, bear in mind those places are designed to attract Chinese gamblers as well.

The PLA did not invade Cambodia to force them to let them run Sihanoukville. This is what everyone forget. China has not let a single of their bombs anywhere around the BRI to compel people to join.

You want their investment, money and infra? Of course you need to accede to their T&Cs. If you don't, just say no. Plenty of countries had. No harm done.

It is after someone takes their money and then whine like a bitch about "debt traps" later that I can't stand. You are all sovereign countries. Most of the democratic. With democracy comes responsibilities. Vote in lah honest leaders.
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moral of the story,.. don't petty crime,.. do big crime,...
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Same like stealing milo get life time jail, steal berbillion no jail
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Dengkike? Many businesses are control by helangss, be it PRCs or not. Many are just pipitss living the way they want you to be.
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TS you know golden triangle many of them were the remnant of KMT troops who retreated there after they lost the civil war right?

And Cambodia Casino is owned by a Malaysia from Jenjarum.
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Nagaworld lo

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QUOTE(1designs @ Jul 6 2021, 11:53 AM)
I believe the word that you're looking for is "loan".

It works both ways, you know. Nothing is free in this world.

Did those countries expect China to give out loans for no reason?
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actually it's the receiving countries that are stupid to accept it...knowing they can't repay it at all

it's the same as ah long case...if u don't borrow, which ah long is gonna be able to kacau u...u have to be stupid enough to initiate the loan 1st
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ehemmm u knmow alot msian owned cambodia casino right ??
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Y r u spreading fake news?
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No shame like takmaluapaboosku ah?

Which part you think is fake? Which part you think cannot be googled?
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Besides the Kings Romans, the country’s biggest casino is likely Macau Legend Development’s Savan Legend Resorts in Savannakhet province
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If they do, all Casinos in Macau has to be shut down. No Casino is allowed in mainland China.
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Invasive species.

Should just stay in China ecosystem.


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No shame like takmaluapaboosku ah?

Which part you think is fake? Which part you think cannot be googled?
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Ppl aledi show u post fake news...
Obviously u are a shameless retard...

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those casinos operating in sihanoukville cambodia use for laundering
see the amount of players knew already
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Ppl aledi show u post fake news...
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Typical loser.
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kek, unable to provide any evidence and losing a debate resort to personal attack.

Typical loser.
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whats wrong?

you walk into penang bayan lepas factories,
the place is surrounded by factories and own by americans. Development by indons. Construction workers and laborers. Many businesses also have Omputehs as taukeh.  The locals are mostly working in menial jobs as cab drivers, or in those kedai runcits or casino workers.
see how silly you sounded?
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Reminds me of my trip to Sihanouk which is totally unpleasant with all those massive construction where most rows of buildings are casinos and the majority of the tourists are PRCs. It seems like traveling in Malaysia is also cheaper than traveling around Cambodia on taxi.

Beaches and seaside view may be beautiful (which beaches don't?) but other than that it is obvious that the majority of the citizens there are of the uneducated and poor and can only watch the Chinese from afar enjoying the cleaner beaches of their country - as beaches are privatized for tourists and they borders are set as a deterrent which they complied to.

Plenty of crap to say about that place, and wouldn't recommend the area for travel as it they are no match to Thailand... unless you want to flex in social media spending USDs on this undeveloped country where the cost of living is equivalent to US & Europe.
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You went to the town part of sihanoukville izzit? Only PRC tourists go there. Wanna enjoy sihanoukville should go to Otres beach area.

Cost of living equivalent to US and UK? You want cheap food got a lot of option as long as you avoid areas nearby nagaworld. Near otres can get 10 -20 usd per person for fine dining. Normal meals around KL price only that is in decent restaurants. If wan cheaper option can go where the locals go. Some are not bad, found a local shop which taste quite gooding, me and wife eat total 8 usd only. But most of the time we go for more nicer place to eat la since it’s fairly cheap.


QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jul 6 2021, 09:13 AM)
if you're going to cambodia for holiday and you're not visiting the ruins?
you're doing it wrong already

u shouldn't be going cambodia for luxury travel and casinos...there are other countries for that...better/more suitable countries
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Depends what you want la, sihanoukville is a chill place just depends which part of sihanoukville you go to.


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You went to the town part of sihanoukville izzit? Only PRC tourists go there. Wanna enjoy sihanoukville should go to Otres beach area.

Cost of living equivalent to US and UK? You want cheap food got a lot of option as long as you avoid areas nearby nagaworld. Near otres can get 10 -20 usd per person for fine dining. Normal meals around KL price only that is in decent restaurants. If wan cheaper option can go where the locals go. Some are not bad, found a local shop which taste quite gooding, me and wife eat total 8 usd only. But most of the time we go for more nicer place to eat la since it’s fairly cheap.
Depends what you want la, sihanoukville is a chill place just depends which part of sihanoukville you go to.
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Ya town part. Went to plenty of beaches also la dunno got one populated with Turkish or some kind of arabian descent town as well. Got ripped there also.

Damn, if I had known you had gone b4 would had asked you about that. In town area, that roti naan also costs USD8. bangwall.gif

Maybe if got time may reconsider, but after experiencing other countries very likely not to... After all prefer to chill on hills than getting burnt on beaches....
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jul 6 2021, 12:25 PM)
From my visit to Sihanouk.... the place is surrounded by casinos and ran by PRCs. Development by PRCs. Construction workers and laborers. Many businesses also have PRCs as taukeh.  The locals are mostly working in menial jobs as cab drivers, or in those kedai runcits or casino workers. If you think PRCs are running Malaysia, try visiting there and you will understand lucky we are (other than that island around Johor I think).

Of course those syndicate - be it ran by that mobster Zhao Wei or that used-to-be-fapped Zhao Wei was another thing.....
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Do you know how sihanoukville was like before prc money flooding in? how much was local wages and what job opportunity available? do you know how much locals made from prc in land lease, etc?

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Ya town part. Went to plenty of beaches also la dunno got one populated with Turkish or some kind of arabian descent town as well. Got ripped there also.

Damn, if I had known you had gone b4 would had asked you about that. In town area, that roti naan also costs USD8.  bangwall.gif

Maybe if got time may reconsider, but after experiencing other countries very likely not to... After all prefer to chill on hills than getting burnt on beaches....
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The usd 8 place is like a small pekan around 10 min bike ride from otres I also not sure what it’s called but I know how to ride there from otres la. If you do go there again I suggest just chill at otres beach and makan all also can settle at otres beach u want simple makan minum most of the beachside shops/restaurants there with drink wise 5-7 per person can settle and it’s a hearty meal.

For breakfast/brunch I usually go to papa pippo, their pizza is quite nice. Around usd 8 or 9 for a seafood pizza, more than enough for 2 person to eat. Not too far from it also got restaurants where you can get roasted chicken with rice and mash for 4 or 5 usd like that. Still ok la for tourist area, 2x5 with Thailand also, Phuket simple fried rice already 100-120 baht nowadays.

For dinner, usually I just pay a bit more extra and go eat at secret garden, nice environment, candle light, better food quality. 2 person usually between 30-50usd could be more of course if you order wine by bottle.

One thing I love about sihanoukville though is their Chang draught beer, 0.5 usd during happy hour and only 1usd non happy hour. I find myself having Chang for breakfast, lunch, dinner, supper. Hahaha 😂

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The name i thought it was the the actress Zhao Wei.

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Do you know how sihanoukville was like before prc money flooding in? how much was local wages and what job opportunity available? do you know how much locals made from prc in land lease, etc?
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Can only more or less guess from the looks at the non developed areas, which suggest Felda-like settler poverty or worse. Other than that didn't think the PRC money flowing in could be any better for the locals there. Btw what's the point of the question?

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The usd 8 place is like a small pekan around 10 min bike ride from otres I also not sure what it’s called but I know how to ride there from otres la. If you do go there again I suggest just chill at otres beach and makan all also can settle at otres beach u want simple makan minum most of the beachside shops/restaurants there with drink wise 5-7 per person can settle and it’s a hearty meal.

For breakfast/brunch I usually go to papa pippo, their pizza is quite nice. Around usd 8 or 9 for a seafood pizza, more than enough for 2 person to eat. Not too far from it also got restaurants where you can get roasted chicken with rice and mash for 4 or 5 usd like that. Still ok la for tourist area, 2x5 with Thailand also, Phuket simple fried rice already 100-120 baht nowadays.

For dinner, usually I just pay a bit more extra and go eat at secret garden, nice environment, candle light, better food quality. 2 person usually between 30-50usd could be more of course if you order wine by bottle.
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My time there was mostly spent going out to the beaches from my 100usd/night hotel and then back (forgot the name), breakfast usually taken at hotel and others usually at the golden roundabout area. That should be a rip-off place, right?

Need to ask wife if we went to Otres b4 or not bcos itinerary all arranged by her.

Anyway great advise, the way you described the spending cost was somehow similar to when we were in Bali.
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jul 7 2021, 01:45 PM)
Can only more or less guess from the looks at the non developed areas, which suggest Felda-like settler poverty or worse. Other than that didn't think the PRC money flowing in could be any better for the locals there. Btw what's the point of the question?
My time there was mostly spent going out to the beaches from my 100usd/night hotel and then back (forgot the name), breakfast usually taken at hotel and others usually at the golden roundabout area. That should be a rip-off place, right?

Need to ask wife if we went to Otres b4 or not bcos itinerary all arranged by her.

Anyway great advise, the way you described the spending cost was somehow similar to when we were in Bali.
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Golden roundabout area is the most rip off place of all man. Memang they potong you nicely one around there.

Yeah cost wise I would say it’s similar to bali/Phuket(patong beach) kinda pricing.

Did you guys go visit the killing fields?
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jul 7 2021, 01:47 PM)
Golden roundabout area is the most rip off place of all man. Memang they potong you nicely one around there.

Yeah cost wise I would say it’s similar to bali/Phuket(patong beach) kinda pricing.

Did you guys go visit the killing fields?
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Niamah... One bottle of that similar Chang beer (as previous reply) at golden roundabout was USD3 or 6... can't remember much because not a memorable trip. Regret gila there.

Killing fields that was other place right... so no... We were only at Sihanoukville...
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jul 7 2021, 01:57 PM)
Niamah... One bottle of that similar  Chang beer (as previous reply) at golden roundabout was USD3 or 6... can't remember much because not a memorable trip. Regret gila there.

Killing fields that was other place right... so no... We were only at Sihanoukville...
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Yeah bro golden roundabout area mainly cater to the rich PRC tourists. I took a bike there and was there for barely 2 hours, everything was so expensive!

Most non Asian tourist go to otres beach and you got accommodation all the way from the budget/backpacker range to some really nice premium ones like secret garden which need to book way way in advance. I stayed at white boutique hotel which is around 80usd per night and quite nice but still wish to get to go to secret garden next time, it looks even nicer.
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QUOTE(MishimaZ @ Jul 7 2021, 01:45 PM)
Can only more or less guess from the looks at the non developed areas, which suggest Felda-like settler poverty or worse. Other than that didn't think the PRC money flowing in could be any better for the locals there. Btw what's the point of the question?
My time there was mostly spent going out to the beaches from my 100usd/night hotel and then back (forgot the name), breakfast usually taken at hotel and others usually at the golden roundabout area. That should be a rip-off place, right?

Need to ask wife if we went to Otres b4 or not bcos itinerary all arranged by her.

Anyway great advise, the way you described the spending cost was somehow similar to when we were in Bali.
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few locals complained of in flood of $$$. suggest you find out more from locals rather than imposing your opinion from one short visit.

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jul 7 2021, 06:29 AM)
You know PRC didn't intervene Macau business operation right?

If they do, all Casinos in Macau has to be shut down. No Casino is allowed in mainland China.
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So, the point of your argument is?
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QUOTE(tikaram @ Jul 6 2021, 09:18 AM)
I went for holiday and I open minded and dont judge

Example I went to Kolkatta maybe you say wtf so dirty so uncilivian so many bagger , so unrelax, so un pleasure etc etc.

I enjoy bcs i open minded and thats how the community live.

so why dengki?
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You are a know yindian defenders

So off course you say can open mind there.
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post Jul 8 2021, 06:22 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jul 7 2021, 08:40 PM)
So, the point of your argument is?
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I am providing fact. not argument
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post Jul 8 2021, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Jul 7 2021, 03:28 PM)
few locals complained of in flood of $$$. suggest you find out more from locals rather than imposing your opinion from one short visit.
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Well, wasn't that is what happened to Msia back then, and don't Malaysians complaint about how prices of goods are unreasonable now?

Would try your suggestion if there are possibilities of long visit in future, though likely the opinion wouldn't change.

QUOTE(scorptim @ Jul 7 2021, 02:22 PM)
Yeah bro golden roundabout area mainly cater to the rich PRC tourists. I took a bike there and was there for barely 2 hours, everything was so expensive!

Most non Asian tourist go to otres beach and you got accommodation all the way from the budget/backpacker range to some really nice premium ones like secret garden which need to book way way in advance. I stayed at white boutique hotel which is around 80usd per night and quite nice but still wish to get to go to secret garden next time, it looks even nicer.
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Really bang head liow. Remembered seeing a PRC owned grocery that sold Thailand durians (quite big) at USD75 each. Maybe that would fetch RM100 in Malaysia at most bangwall.gif

Maybe next time when plan to really go to Cambodia itself... As my trip is solely at Sihanoukville and those Khorong beaches.


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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jul 8 2021, 06:22 AM)
I am providing fact. not argument
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jul 7 2021, 06:29 AM)
You know PRC didn't intervene Macau business operation right?

If they do, all Casinos in Macau has to be shut down. No Casino is allowed in mainland China.
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I don't know what you intend to say in a gangster rule casino topic in Cambodia.
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macam bkh but without casino la

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jul 8 2021, 12:19 PM)
I don't know what you intend to say in a gangster rule casino topic in Cambodia.
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I don't know what is your intention to show gangster who fled chyna and committing crime in golden triangle
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jul 9 2021, 06:37 AM)
I don't know what is your intention to show gangster who fled chyna and committing crime in golden triangle
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That we have to beware of Chinese criminals.
That not all money from China is good.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jul 9 2021, 07:50 AM)
That we have to beware of Chinese criminals.
That not all money from China is good.
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Criminals is everywhere and you think those KMT troops' descendant are innocent? They were once the bigest opium cartel before the middle east took over. Now still fighting against the host country.
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and world don't care this country exist or not.
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post Jul 9 2021, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jul 9 2021, 07:54 AM)
Criminals is everywhere and you think those KMT troops' descendant are innocent? They were once the bigest opium cartel before the middle east took over. Now still fighting against the host country.
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Chinese Whataboutism never dies.
KMT is 100 years ago, and Zhaowei is born in Liaoning.
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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jul 9 2021, 07:57 PM)
Chinese Whataboutism never dies.
KMT is 100 years ago, and Zhaowei is born in Liaoning.
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Are you trying to say there is no criminal is other countries?
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QUOTE(jibpek @ Jul 10 2021, 06:56 AM)
Are you trying to say there is no criminal is other countries?
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Another Chinese whataboutism, "other people don't have meh?"
Other country criminal couldn't possibly get casino license, influence country and build airport.

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Jul 10 2021, 07:10 AM)
Another Chinese whataboutism, "other people don't have meh?"
Other country criminal couldn't possibly get casino license, influence country and build airport.
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You means El Chapo?
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I remember this case, both the guy and GF is murdered.
I think the Chinese murderer ran to Thailand and was caught there.
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apa kes, can share link?

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apa kes, can share link?
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https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-as...police-hunt-two

 

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