If you rent a room. Why not rent 1 nearer to your office? So you can walk, take public transport to work? Which means you won't need to buy car yet. Save you RM900. Add back RM100 for taking public transport.
Just choose a plan that gives you free phone.
Only pay your parents after probation with increment.

erm where is insurance? EPF cant count as expenses. phone cost is phone instalment?

There is a difference between bringing up kids into this world that THINKS they are ENTITLED versus bringing up kids into this world that understands everything that is given to them is a BLESSING and teaching them that everything comes with a price..

Digitization is a blessing for those who can afford them. Its not a necessity in life of needed for basic human life.
If a parent cant reach the kids to know the difference at a young age, then its the parents fault.

When given a choice of teaching gardening and carpentry vs how to use the internet to your kids, i would choose gardening and carpentry instead.. What about other skills like basic plumbing/pipe works and fixing basic electrical skills. I use to hate my dad when i was young asking me to help him to do all these things and took my time from playing with my friends or hanging out.

But now i am greatful that this was instilled to me by him and they will learn to understand it when they grow up.

Survival skills like this is needed more than ever for our kids in the future that we are sending them into..

Fresh grad want daily starbucks salary, can continue to dream...

Yep. 600. And even then, I think I'm eating pretty decent. I up my budget to 900 and I will be gaining a lot of weight. So it's a health thing also. I only eat 2 meals a day, maybe with a light snack in between meals. So 20/day is more than enough to splurge on cheat days. I make my own coffee because it's better. Tapau most of the time so don't have to spend on unnecessary drinks.


Again. Fresh grads are asking all the wrong questions. You are just starting out. Ask NOT what you can live WITH, but ask what you can live WITHOUT.

very true bro, i agree...when we first started as freshie we did not expect to drink starbucks everyday or go clubbing all the time, that time savings is most important to build up your financial standings...everyone goes through the same process except for those truly exceptional

Depends on your negotiation skills..
Generally fresh graduate should be around RM2.5k .
And also depend on what type of company and role they offered you.
You see the JD is super long like your school R&R Board with only RM1.8k , you pretty much know the company doesn't know what they're hiring.
Speak up abit on the salary.
Convince them that the role they're hiring requires more then what they offered. Just don't be rude. If they don't buy your advise, just move on with other company.
When you step into society.. it doesn't takes only 1-2 interview for that perfect job and salary.
Sometimes 10-20 you can't even find what you want. But the worse thing is just seating around waiting for that golden opportunity to appear.

My list of accommodations also need to come with parking. Give or take, not much he can save. If he has a Myvi 1.5 petrol also he cannot save. Food is 900 because the guy also need to eat healthier not just any fried bee Hoon like our time. These days humane treatment is different vs 2005-2010. I still think 2,300 cannot. 2,900 possible. 3,500 is for good graduates. 4,500 for best grad. My thought only.

May need to go 100 interviews in this market

To be honest salary for fresh grad is not enough for almost all major cities in the world?

Maybe in canada or NZ is the good place for fresh grad to be since i really havent heard them complaining low pay there.

Yeah lol
Now imagine rm2.3k for those with work experience
I feel kesian to them.

delete your account from all social media and forum

and start work hard

confirm you getting 10x later

if you continue to stay on social media, confirm you couldnt run anyway from this figure

Myvi is a luxury. If you have to cut out money for health because you're driving a Myvi, then you're not going to make it.

Why drive a Myvi when can downgrade to an Axia?

If you know that money is an issue, then you can't be fussy about choices. That's life.

RM2,900 - RM3,500 businesses will reduce hiring, simple.

That's already RM34,800 per annum on a single graduate not including EPF and SOCSO (employer's share).

I am sure any MNC or banks will pay more than that for fresh grad, local small business not sure.

Business need to plan on efficiency and productivity. We created too many non productive jobs that allow business to earn low margins.

10 years ago auditing firm already offer 2,800 for fresh grad.

Covid-19 aside, 2,300 is really very low.

Kalau pandai sangat, jadilah boss sendiri. No one owes you a living.

Many employees would be doing that the coming decades

My opinion sits with the 2 fellow forumers below.

I don't get why there's a phone bill and phone cost. Let me assure you i'm only paying RM40 for my phone package and i don't even have Wifi at home

RM2.3k is tight by today's standard but it's not impossible to have an average lifestyle.

Get an average car befitting one's affordability. Even if it's an Axia, it's fine so long it does the job. Public transportation is the best to reduce petrol, maintenance or any toll cost. Despite renting a house/ room for RM600 and still need RM300 for petrol is pretty high btw. If this person is renting a room, I would think it's a smarter choice to rent nearby the office (ie. within 10km). In that case, petrol would be like, probably RM150-RM200 per month or less.

Food RM 900 is like average RM30 per day. Yes and no to it. At most only have 1 meal (lunch) with colleague right? I'll presume it's RM 10 for lunch.
- breakfast can make oats/ boil eggs etc at home = cost less than RM5
- dinner can cook or takeaway from zhapfan shops or nearby noodle/ rice shops = aim for less than RM10
- Lunch RM10

Total should be around RM25 or less per day. If wanna save, meal prep own lunch and occasionally makan with colleagues. By eating with colleagues 3x a week (Mon, Wed and Fri) you still maintain that rapport and get to save 2 days a week (or the other way round). In fact yes, you can still pack lunch and eat with colleagues.

It might seem like petty calculation but at the end of the day, it's about making smart adjustment to your lifestyle based on what you have/ able to get.

I'll say if RM2.3k:
- Meal: RM 600
- Car: RM 400
- Petrol: RM200 (would expect this to be lower since renting outside)
- Rental: RM600
- Phone: RM60
- *Insurance (ie. medical card): RM40
- Parents: RM 300
- Parking: RM 100

*Optional of course, can subscribe later when he/ she gets a raise. But still, imo it's essential.
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Hahahaha sayur ah, thought it's strawberry!
But that's right... indeed back in the days cost aren't that high.

Coming decades? That's slow.... now is the time... the push is already here now...

got job = bonus already.

you don't want, plenty others out there ready to take the position.