Hi Guys, its been a while that im active in comp hardware.

Recently brought a 5600x on a Asus B550 A Gaming and cooled with Deepcool Castle 240EX in a CM TD500 Mesh with stock fans.

My idle temp is around 40c+ and light work task is around 60c + while playing on warzone the temp can go as high as 70c+ which i don't feel comfortable in.

So my question is this a bad AIO ? should i upgrade to Arctic Liquid Freeze II 240 or even 360 ? Since i think my case can handle it.

A proper good air cooler will do the better job than AIO , unless you go for custom water cooling build

From what I've heard , its really pretty normal and shouldn't harm your cpu in a long run. Mine is sitting in the 50s with just a few apps running , surfing web and nothing heavy. Cooler is just a Wraith Prism rgb

Yea I had this AIO because of a combo sales . So no choice unless stick with stock cooler which I heard it works for 3600 but not 5600x as the temp would go spike up fast and I didn’t turn on the A/C daytime so room temp is around 30c I would said during the daytime . I think moving air around in hot temp won’t be much ideal then water cooled ?

This post has been edited by MazeLoL: Jun 25 2021, 06:23 PM

Ya, I think mine was slightly above average as my room temp I would said probably around 30c? Perhaps improve on air intake at the case would be ideal ? As I’m using the preset fan from cooler master and I can’t find the specification for those fan 😥

The thermal junction for 5600x will max out at 95C.

So your current temperature is very safe.

It's perfectly fine, note that Ryzen chips are designed to utilize as much thermal headroom as possible, and the 7nm process node means high thermal density

High temperatures are perfectly normal and should not impact the longevity of the CPU, as long as it is not throttling

Ya that’s for the info , but I’ll always like to keep my things as cold as possible 😅

Ya bro, after some Googling for the pass few day yes I did realise that AMD mentioned it is ‘normal’ to be hot but again just wondering how much colder it can be after swapping this Castle to Arctic liquid freezer II 240mm or 360mm not sure whether it’s worth chasing it . 🤔

You want the lowest temp, set your AIO fans and pump to run max speed all the time, it will get as cold as possible.

360 AIO likely only going to give difference when CPU is full load. Idle and low load no difference.

processor can keep up all this heat, everyone have their own ideal temperature preference meaning during game you must make sure your room keep AC on, your room easily warming up since your GPU also produce a lot of heat than your CPU and everything cramped inside the case can easily reach 80c without noticing and your radiator fan ,GPU fan cranked up like no tmr those noise annoying af

No offense I'm not a fan AIO , I'm old school long time ago I have a custom liquid cooling system but also annoying af when alloy or copper get corroded and Most AIO you can't even see a thing

So those CPU cooler are better choice for me

Yea, true at first I was thinking to go back to Noctua NH-D15 but feel like trying AIO since my old build is doing all air cooled . Anyway thanks for your reply 👍

Yea perhaps I should go with 360mm next one 👍

Max out your pump speed. The radiator fan you can adjust the fan speed curve in your BIOS. My own 360mm AIO i max out both my fan and pump speed. Since the fan im using max out at 1500rpm , its not that noisy anyways. Im using CM H500P Mesh. However my R7 3700X still can spike up to ~60C once a while , running Dota2.

It’s is recommended to run the pump 100% at all time ?

I dont see anything wrong with that. Unless you feel its too noisy. I have 2 Asetek AIO in my rig. 1 for GPU , 1 for CPU. It has been running like this for years.

Either go with custom liquid cooling or stay with air-cooling

Hey, sure man no problem will ramp it up see it helps .

air cooler FTW

Ya i was previously a Aircool FTW person , but after seeing just a pump sitting on the process which make the build looks clean, i move sides as well

isnt aio cooler noisy?air cooler silent

Not really, depends what fan you gonna use for the AIO tho.

The stock fan at my deepcool castle is kinda noise at 100% , Might getting some Arctic F12 to replace it tho so i can operated 100% at all time.

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I was on water cooling with a 360mm radiator + triple Arctic F12 fans. Then out of a sudden, there's a leak between the hose & pump. Took me a while to clear everything up.

After that, I swapped to this, and running all applications as I did previously without any sort of overheating sign. The water cool parts & components all sold left the EK water block. No regret going back to air cool.

So many people recommend to go Air cool , oh well i'll wait for my new castle to die first then only swap back to aircool with Noctua NH-D15

in most situations, the fans on the AIO will be also used as the exhaust or intake so basically you will have fewer fans overall as compared to aircooling.

it wont really solve much. AMD is just hot, that's all. changing to D15 will give you roughly the same temp as your current 240 AIO.

when it comes to thermals, AMD will tend to stay at its peak so in your 5600X case, 50-80C average at all times but it doesnt go higher than that. Intel will see much lower temps at normal usage but will go 90C when you max it. So what you are seeing is absolutely normal... you can consider using low power mode by cutting your cpu performance in your windows power settings when you dont need cpu power to drop the temps for normal usage.

This post has been edited by Bonchi: Jun 29 2021, 06:58 PM

max out 70c is perfectly normal and good temp TS, dont worry about it

Ya, AMD is just hot like you said at least it doesn't go 90c at peak. well what you have any experience in using low power mode ? for the time being i just leave the Asus Performance Enhancement (ON) and run DOSP at 3600mhz for my ram. i came across an article mentioning that fixed the CPU ratio at 45 and keep voltage at 1.2 or 0.01+- just incase its not stable but had yet to give it a try tho.

Whats your opinion on this matter?

Alrighty

I'm using 5600x + Scythe Mugen 5 ARGB air cooler in Lian Li TU150 itx case. Getting near 60c on normal usage. Not a good thermal performance. So decided to undervolt my cpu to 1.2v and actually manage to reduce it by 10c. Now around 48c. If you are not comfortable with your thermal performance, you should consider that.

Yo bro, Did you setup your CP ratio fixed at 45 ? or just leave it auto and set the voltage fixed at 1.2v ?

Just ignore and close the thermal monitoring tools and use the cpu. Any changes or tweaks usually ends up with performance or stability problems. Fixed cpu ratio will cause it to run hot when idle. Yes voltage comes down but powerdraw still high due to LLC. Low powermode will drop temps by almost 10C but the cpu will lose more than 20% performance so it's a huge trade off. You can toggle between power modes for browsing/gaming/working. But if you lazy with all these annoying issues then just change to intel like myself.

Going back to intel after they dump this 14nm tech .

Long way to go they will need some time to optimize their new big little architecture and windows11. Pretty sure there will be very inconsistent performance for a few months. Some apps it will be super fast but some apps super slow.

Agree its gonna be long way to go since they just launch Win11 .

Well i think everyone is afraid to move over at early stage as you mentioned its gonna be unstable and alot of app compatibility issue.

I actually swapped from AMD to an older 10th gen because also worry of inconsistent performance on the 11th gen. But well since ive been using AMD for a pretty long time sometimes you do have to observe the fan because sometimes the processor will stuck at max boost for very random things. Mine stuck that way on a music player... back then didnt notice so it was running over 90C for 8+ hours everyday as I was using a tiny noctua NL9... and that cpu went to RMA .

Just fix the voltage.