Because Dr hard to get?

cuz insecure. wanna show off mentality. datuk go other country just like any average joe only.

To demand respect and business related.

Got cucu insta become datuk

same reason why people pay extra money for luxury car

TS please go to ask liew soon hee, he need the most.

lol if Dr title alone can give you business deal better than Datukship, we wont have idiots running this country.

status helang

Laugh at these: Datuk Dr PU

same like Britain also, why need those Sir title?

Honestly don’t know why or what a dato is.

Like people be addressing them as Dato instead of their first names, but i could never be fucked.

They acted like they were speaking with royalty but i never got it, maybe i’m dumb.
When i was a kid i just called my parents’ dato friends uncle, and now i just call them by their first name.

This post has been edited by knives.: Jun 16 2021, 01:14 PM

Yeah, this one recognized worldwide

Easier for them to con people and lesen besar songlap

Inherited from the British system, where the Monarch confer knightship, lordship etc.

Ini versi Malaysia.

Title used to show prestige.

Because we were under Monarchy-based colonization.

King, Queen, Prince, Princess, Duke, Duchess, Lord, Baron, etc.

So we adopted the same with our King, Queen, etc.

But... it has lost its meaning over time as politics became all encompassing.

Belajar susah2 but go korek vag kek

2 inci

PU got apa super power?

Datuk-ship is just a member in certain industry. maybe wanna be like Hong Kong meh chor tai di club

Its a club. Seriously. It is a club.

If you have friends who have title like Datuk or Dr, do you address them using their title? Or just by their name?

Because 2 inch and feudal mindset.

If you throw a stone, u might hit a dato's head

Dunno, ask nicky

Address them by title unless they insist otherwise.

exactly. Ade ape kat PU tu ?

Somehow people excited about it. Bow to it. Kaki tunggang jugak.

By their names. If business related only use title

But then I address my friends by their name since I am used to that since school

Was I being rude?

This post has been edited by blanket84: Jun 16 2021, 01:24 PM

That's what I was doing all this while. Now I wonder if i was being disrespectful.

Rude or not depends on whether your friend thinks it is acceptable or not.

budaya tidak sihat diwarisi dari british.

Most of them seems okay with that..

dulu bangga sebab sikit je org dapat
now u go outside yell banyak ada

if ur fren mind about that

it's time to unfriend him

Good if they are ok outwardly. Maybe inwardly will think you biadap.

#jk

That's why I thought too..

I mean, even my uncle call menteri wilayah "wa" only not Tan Sri, it would be awkward to call my Dr friend Dr instead of his name. Feels like talking to a stranger.

2 scenario if u have to address that:

1) dia suka muka, kasi dia la, free je
2) hi bye fren, not very close fren

I guess I should just avoid seeing ex schoolmates with title except for my real friends.

But angmoh will no address people like dato Lee datuk kho like that wor

Follow UK. They also ade banyak title

Sir, OBE, CBE, etc.

got the title means all urusan can i help u u help me

What if we just call name
No call dato datuk
No respect?

Justice peace no one want?

go yindia

semua panggil sir

owaiii

Loltopkek

Best if just to avoid

The burden of privilege on the economy
28 Jan 2021
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5094906
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Got la.

Sir, Duke, Duchess mana ada you refer by name saja.

But of course not as perasan as those here, because here banyak get title by way of purchase with purchase ala Watsons/Guardian.

In Malaysia only?


+1

But why you dont consider them as your real friends after they get titles?

I said, I would avoid schoolmates, not real friends. Real friends, I would stick with calling them by names

Name

I don't value dato datuk title at all in Malaysia
Since those title can be bought
Hahahahaha

Can only wish.

But I do know there are some helang that avoid using the titles they have if possible, even in writing letters.

Yup Malaysia only. In overseas they will said they got an honorary title given by the king. If you are a foreigner when you hear that, melompat tak? Ingat Knights of Round Table...

This post has been edited by Capt. Marble: Jun 16 2021, 01:44 PM

Itu Java pun ada including one cinapek with Tan Sri Datuk Dr (Cam Soh). Open mouth speak english, worse than my sampah man from Bangladesh. Even the cinapek can't read contracts, hire PA from chinese school to read and indicate where to sign.

Intro ownself with first name even if got title

Address others with title unless they say otherwise

That is the best

Dont need to act all konfiused over nothing

You ran into email addresses that incorporate honorifics ?

As in DatoDrKnives@glcxyz.com.my

I've seen it a few times

Cringe like fark i tell you, like what you say taken a few notches up

We're a feudal society with an unhealthy obsession with titles

Close friends with Dr got a few , medical doctor and academician. Usually the Dr is tongue in cheek mostly i refer to them by their name.

Dato i seriously know none personally. Zilch. Those that are acquaintances arent close

I just see Dato as someone idiot nowadays

Ditto. I don't have any dato' or datuk friends.

But plenty of Dr (PhD and Medical Dr) friends and ex schoolmates/college mates.

Datuk dato title quite useful in wow-ing gomen employees and getting gomen projects for some reason.

To me, datuk usually means crook.

just saja go google what is PU (Pencetus Ummah), da fak wei, its just self titled for contestant on an Astro TV realiti show.
instead of competing like acting, singing or talent, they compete on how well they are in the religion, and how good they can spread it....
Change.org petition on this issue

Income

LEL petition bukak 2 years never meet target

To show off & get high salary lah. Did not have a good education qualification, but have pangkat

but filipino calls everyone sir.

Damn i’ve never seen that luckily.

My doctor friends I would never address them as Dr except if i’m being goofy.

Older people who i know as doctors (my parents’ friends usually, then i do coz ive kinda grown up calling them that).

But I’ve never uttered the word dato, and i dont think i will coz it feels weird.

kek, petition.
I still duno what PU is even after gugel it.. I wonder what people are thinking at all to begin with to have this thing a thing lol.

for convincing ppl.

like usually you need 1 hour to con ... vincing certain ppl, with that title, you will save up to 30 mins.

Overseas will X giv a fuck and will still beat the shit out of you even with tansri or datuk title

Yes sir

Thinking back yes I have a dato schoolmate. Not close in the slightest. His dad was an IR. He unfortunately was a gangster and I think he's turned away from that path and used dad's money to open businesses like foreign worker resource company, event management cos. and is now a developer.

Last I heard from a mutual friend that fucker tied up with a small time diagnostics centre claiming to provide vaccination. From NIP or Selangkah no one knows but his sales pitch is don't be stupid, faster register with me else you miss out. They claim to have 2 million vaccines.

If I would guess he's signing up to be a vaccination center for govt and using the nanes to lobby for vaccines from NIP. Then get money from govt get money from private citizens. Truly a scum and acts like the stereotypical crooked dato.

It’s annoying when you goto thai club either in KL or dannok, the retard thai girls be like “that guy is dato, that’s why all go to him buying tequilla”

I was like facepalm*
Dato label can be bought from Pahang.

we have bunch of this running the country right now and it's unfortunate

Sad

If u kena dato datuk title, u want ka?
If me I don't want

Dato or Tan Sri only for MY. I know one client which is a Dato but had a diplomatic passport and treated like a diplomat anywhere in the world.

If you can get Datukship for the likes of Dato Red, Dato AC Mizal, Dato gangster pukul Rela apanamadia tu.. it goes without saying.

This post has been edited by grumpydrive: Jun 16 2021, 03:20 PM

ikut british la..Sir bagai

but then we went overboard..tak nak kalah

Those got datukship got 2 types.
1 type is low profile got theirs datukship the correct or legal way of contributions to society. They don’t bother you not address them as datuk/dato. If fact, I also dunno they got the title.

The other types, if you accidentally not address them correctly, susah lor want to do business let alone be friends to them unless you are the higher rank lor

Helang

Becos can scam legally

more like helang mini compared with other titles

and yet the pipits in Malaysia still treat those Datuk Dato like a God and worship them

the dato title was supposed to be mean that this person is trustworthy, got potential n competent. so it grant us confidence to work together

but unfortunately there is no quality control that control this award which made the position become no value

this is short cut way shit people become clean.

I thought Malay use it long before British come as king associate.

Just a club. Too much money. Buy datoship la.

This is all pengaruh UK. Titles everywhere

Ours recognised overseas?

Yeah. I have plenty of friends who are anak datuk, but I never knew their father is some datuk until their death came in the news/obituary

Everyone we call pakcik only.

I think I'd still call my real friends by their nicknames or just oi / woi even if they got titles lol

Bcos sometimes royals need money too.

I had one (ex) senior colleague from another branch. I usually addressed her by her first name in emails (it was the company's culture) . Until one day I have meeting with her and her team in person, den I overheard her staff called her Datin. O.o So I was told that she is in fact a Datin (i.e not becoz her husband is a Dato) .

Ya she is humble and kind in general, and didn't bother to correct me. But as a polite gesture, I call her Datin from then onwards lol

coz got many rulers can gip title

member from show called Pencetus Ummah, basically celebrity

I dont want. I wanna be li KJ

lol I know what full PU is.

how to explain ah.. something macam you get something but you don't get it at the same time.
like at least dato title got power in business, doktor title is because you got your doctorate, then comes PU and you be like whaaat? get it or not? haha

oh I think an example is macam BTS, you know they are famous idol, some people worship them like god and you're confused like what is BTS again..
haha yeah, maybe bad example also.

This post has been edited by Acher13: Jun 16 2021, 04:16 PM

Depends, Datuk / Dato got many level one mang.

Low level datoship you will qualify and get the title if you know who to pay that will pull the correct string. Some can only be bestow by the royalty and ruling regime of our land.

I once met a client who is 20 ish already got Dato title, he said papa help kawtim one i dont want this title, all i want is the company pay my gaji, my Cayenne and my credit card expenses.

ohh, I get your point
got the same feeling, before know what it means, I tot its another title same level as ustaz