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nic_chm
post Sep 5 2007, 10:37 AM, updated 18y ago

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This Topic is to complaint on the Dealer whom handled the sales and orders by taking his own sweet time.
At the same time, this is to seek advise and judgemet from the mod to see if this forumer will be allowed to conitnue dealing in lowyat.net in the future.

Latest update and amount left to be refunded (As of 30th OctOctober):

Refunded/Balance

Vhanded - RM 2300/(RM 1100)
nic_chm - RM 2200 /(RM 3100)
Mfharun - RM 1600/(RM 1400)

Completed List
Ng Kai Long - RM 260 (Completed)
Ah Shawn :RM 285(Completed)
Yankai RM 250(Completed)
StratOS - RM 1200/(Completed)
FCUK89 - RM 540/(Completed)
chiakc - RM 95/(Completed)
Xtreme_Heightz - RM 1340/(Completed)

Detail of complaint :
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5th September:

s[H]sIkuA claimed that he couldn't log onto LYN Forum, and will refund by installment.

7th September:

s[H]sIkuA Claimed refund will start 3rd week in September.

Refund list :

1) nic_chm (PC bundle)
2) Ah Shawn (3x DDR2 Ram)
3) Ng Kai Long (2x DDR2 Ram)
4) Xtreme_Hightz (PSU / LCD)
5) StratOS (Multiple item)
6) Outside orders


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12th September :

Due to miscommunication between s[H]sIkuA and Supplier, the refund should take place on 17th September, latest by 20 September instead of 3rd week of september.

Refund details :
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19th September

First refund done :
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1st October 2007

QUOTE(s[H)
sIkuA,Oct 1 2007, 10:01 PM]Hallo, your HDD is back with me now. Not sure why it is taking so long for 1to1 exchange. Will send back to you tomorrow then.
For the Refund Progress

Second Refund Stage
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Refund done on 17th October 2007

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Refund as of 22nd Oct

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Refund as of 30th Oct

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Update as of 7th November 2007
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Update as of Nov 27 2007, 07:29 PM

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1. Nic_chm (Amount RM5300.00)
Date Refunded: 19th Sep 2007 - RM200.00
Date Refunded: 3rd Oct 2007 - RM200.00
Date Refunded: 12th Oct 2007 - RM 200.00
Date Refunded: 30th Oct 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 6th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 12th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 25th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Balance as of today: RM3100.00

2. Vhanded (Amount RM3400.00)
Date Refunded: 19th Sep 2007 - RM200.00
Date Refunded: 3rd Oct 2007 - RM200.00
Date Refunded: 12th Oct 2007 - RM 200.00
Date Refunded: 22th Oct 2007 - RM 200.00
Date Refunded: 30th Oct 2007 - RM 300.00
Date Refunded: 6th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 12th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 25th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Balance as of today: RM1100.00

3. Mfharun (Amount RM3000.00)
Date Refunded: 17th Oct 2007 - RM200.00
Date Refunded: 30th Oct 2007 - RM 200.00
Date Refunded: 6th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 12th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 27th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Balance as of today: RM1400.00

Sorry for late update
QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Feb 27 2008, 06:20 PM)
1. Nic_chm (Amount RM5300.00)
Date Refunded: 19th Sep 2007 - RM200.00
Date Refunded: 3rd Oct 2007 - RM200.00
Date Refunded: 12th Oct 2007 - RM 200.00
Date Refunded: 30th Oct 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 6th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 12th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 25th Nov 2007 - RM 400.00
Date Refunded: 28th Jan 2008 - RM 1100.00
Date Refunded: 03th Feb 2008 - RM 500.00
Date Refunded: 27th Feb 2008 - RM 1500.00
Balance as of today: RM0.00

4. unbreakableneo (Amount RM1320.00)
Date Refunded: 28th Jan 2008 - RM 520.00
Date Refunded: 27th Feb 2008 - RM 800.00
Balance as of today: RM0.00
Ok. Done  smile.gif
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post Sep 5 2007, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Hyde`fK @ Sep 5 2007, 06:04 PM)
I think you all have to understand the current situation. First off, he's not a dealer. He's just a middleman to wish to deliver some good offers to LYN ppl and also earn some side incomes. The main cause of late arrival of goods are purely entirely his supplier faults. He believes in him, we believe in s[H]sIkuA. Simple.

Those who have follow his thread closely should know the best. Yes, the goods that arrived late, or no way to be seen, it sucks. But s[H]sIkuA can't help with it. If you are in his shoes, I don't think most will be fork out such a large sum of money to get the deal done first for his customer. Maybe he wants to, but he's still a student, rushing for his project that was due last month. My stuffs also got delayed quite long.

I'm just contacted him. He wasn't able to open LYN website these few days due to his connection problem in his area. If there's anything to inform him, let me know about it.
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We all know for sure he is not a dealer, as he always mentioned that the problem always lies with the supplier, but doesn't mean that He himself got no responsibility. His main responsibility is just to delivery our concern to the supplier, and let us know the update to resolve any issue which occured. BUT, the problem was never resolve for so long. Even just a simple estimated TAT can't be answered even tho already pass 14 working days, i don't see that's what we called dealing.

What's more, last month we give him some time due to his previous supplier, and more time due to his project. How long more you think it's rasional for us to give ? another quarter year ?

Noted with the problem he has for going LYN Website, but that won't change the facts he never Reply on msn. I understand now they do have OFFLINE message. even if 10 people msg him, i don't see that he need a week time to answer all.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

QUOTE(StratOS @ Sep 5 2007, 07:46 PM)
Well.. I'm also waiting for my refunds now.. All we can do is wait la. I also have to wait. Eventhough u keep complaining and give him what dispute tag, the supplier no refund him the money means we are not getting the money back.

I'm also sometimes very worried like you guys that i wont get back my money, or some of you are urgently in need of the money to buy or pay other seller your stuffs. I'm in the same state/situation as well.

Getting a refund of a huge amount from your supplier ain't as easy as it seems. Its not like u call and just directly get the refund. I ahve to be honest saying im also angry over this matter but we cant pressure him more as it wasn't his fault.

When doing a bulk, this is the worse thing that might happen to the seller. Pressure from customers when item late received or late refunds but everyone do care about their reputation.

And now his supplier is refunding per week, not per hour or per day.

s[H]sIkuA ✪ 黄 says:
supplier will do installment refund
s[H]sIkuA ✪ 黄 says:
per week
s[H]sIkuA ✪ 黄 says:
i will comes up with the total of all the buyers who need refudn and from there I discuss with supplier how much per week can he refund

So give him time to collect the refunds and refund to you all.

Thats all i want to say now. icon_rolleyes.gif notworthy.gif
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I believe all those who deal with him understands that as well. Are we really pressuring him by just asking him for update ONCE a WEEK ? I don't think so.
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post Sep 10 2007, 07:39 PM

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sIkuA,Sep 10 2007, 05:21 PM]Hi vhanded, PMed you my number.
Well you have your exam, so am I. If you want to, I'll sms you everyday to let you know but frankly, theres no meaning doing that as all I got to say is "Still no news" , "Processing" . You get my meaning?

Supplier didn't update me although I already asked him everyday, there isn't anything to update and what you want me to tell you? Yea you have been cheated about the time of arrival, so am I. Supplier everytime didn't let me know the exact details and all even I keep asking him and he will simply reply back with same answer.

Here is the update to the refund

RM1250 ( per 7-10 days or Weekly )

I will come out with how many individually that you guys can get soon. BTW, is it okay if I pay those smaller amount to settle off first? nic ,  I need your opinion here, as yours are the largest sum and I think if you agree then I might clear off others and after that , all go to you.

BTW, I won't be updating daily as exam starting on Wednesday and I need to concentrate on that. Nonetheless, I will post updates here ASAP after I got something from supplier. That's all.  notworthy.gif
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Can't really comment on that cause I don't understand such a complicating process from your supplier, infact this is the first time i've heard someone doing installment refund when the order can't be fufilled, what's more the payment was not in installment form at first.

I do not know how much Your supplier can refund at a time either. Furthermore,the challenges or problems that HE is facing in order to refund us remain unknown. Where is all the money we have bank in to you to make the order ? Was the problem the Bank transfer limit ? or He's applying for loan from the bank to pay us all(im just kidding); No, i no idea at all.

If you don't furnish us with these info, there's no way we could suggest on the refund in any matter. What's more, we're doing this to favour your Supplier way. (Where is the consumer rights ? These money shouldn't be handled this way At the first place when there's a failed order. Not to mentioned we have not asked for compensation for all those time wasted waiting)

Additionally, i think you left out most important matter here, when only will the first refund taken place ? You said it will be this week. Please don't let us think that you/your supplier intending to only start the refund in 10 days time starting today. So your weekly refund is not weekly anymore isn't it.

Please state everything clearer, cause i just have a few simple question, When, How long and what amount of refund i could get in your so called weekly "7 to 10 days".

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post Sep 13 2007, 07:24 PM

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I would appreciate if everyone could drop the point of commenting "Due to Exams..." and "Supplier fault.." from here. The seller should held responsiblity for their own buyer. Cause in the end buyers are the one who do all the waiting, and not to mentioned the order was not fufilled.

I would agree that we should, or we already did give him ALL the time he wants (without fufilling the order), but who will compensate all the time we lost ?

14 - 18 working days, order will delay is NOT good enough even tho it was stated as Terms and Condition, but not being able to update what are the status for the order even after the 18 working days period is just plain ridiculous.

And again, another wait here until 20th September.

QUOTE(March05 @ Sep 13 2007, 07:08 AM)
Guys, hasn't s[H]sIkuA said he's gone off for his holidays? sorry I mean exams.

Anyway, from what I gather from his usual wishy washy replies, his supplier (not s[H]sIkuA) is proposing (based on latest update) RM1,250 per 7 to 10 days (big maybe here). This will be shared amongst those on the list.

How much each gets per refund event, s[H]sIkuA has not stated and I think he still hasn't a clue how he's splitting it. Notice, he asked the TS (who is on top of the refund list) whether he can refund others first, and he promptly ignores the TS's post for clarification?
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Hi, we talk on MSN regarding this. Sorry for not updating here.

And the first reflected amount should be RM1250 for me. Then the 2nd Refund (On the following week) he will split the RM1250 to refund other people instead of refunding me since i don't really in rush of the money. Yes, i'm helping the seller in a way. Pretty weird huh in a business environment.

To s[H]sIkuA

You should clear this doubt up ASAP, i don't think spending 30 minutes at most replying here will effect your exam that much.

QUOTE(StratOS @ Sep 12 2007, 08:43 PM)
Ok.. lets wait till next week to see lor... What u mean is you rcan 1 time refund rm 1250 to only 1 buyer right, coz ur supplier refund u rm 1250 per week Right. So u will refund by deviding the rm 1250 or refund to 1 person rm 1250..??
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QUOTE(vhanded @ Sep 12 2007, 11:23 PM)
Yes, that's what I want to know, is it 1 person will get all RM1250, or divide into 5 or 6 per person?
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post Sep 15 2007, 11:20 PM

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No update on the refunds ? No update on my Ready HDD which you says i could get it either Today or Tomorrow (Sunday) ?
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post Sep 21 2007, 11:41 AM

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sIkuA,Sep 19 2007, 06:16 PM]Thanks smile.gif
Yea got it
UPDATE:

Done :

Ng Kai Long - RM 260 (Completed)
Vhanded - RM 200
nic_chm - RM 200

Pending :

Non-maybank account, tomorrow going to respective bank to settle this, sorry can't do it today cause tomorrow is my final exam last paper notworthy.gif

StratOS
Xtreme_Heightz
Ah Shawn

mfharun and yankai will be added on next refund
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Hi, thanks. I received. Out of good will i will create a list of the amount left that you need to refund, and update in the first page. Please provide the balance amount you will be refunding, and if there's any amount that's refunding in the upcoming refund as vhanded mentioned on previous post, do post here so that i could update.

*Still wondering when only i could get all my refund tho = =" *

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post Sep 26 2007, 05:16 PM

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No update yet on the next refund ? Or it'll be drag until exactly 10 days...
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post Sep 30 2007, 03:39 AM

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Let's give him until sunday. Since tomorrow is the 10th day as promised.
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post Oct 2 2007, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Oct 1 2007, 10:01 PM)
Hallo, your HDD is back with me now. Not sure why it is taking so long for 1to1 exchange. Will send back to you tomorrow then.
For the Refund Progress

Second Refund Stage
Please double confirm the total with me again, might got the wrong figure wink.gif

1. nic_chm : 400 / 5500
2. Vhanded : 400 / 3400
3. StratOS : 200 /  1200 (Interbank process)
4. Xtreme_Heightz : 200 / 1340 (Interbank process)
5. FCUK89  200 / 540
6. Mfharun 0 / 3000

Completed List
1. Ng Kai Long : 260 / 260
2. Ah Shawn : 285 / 285
3. Yankai 250 / 250 (Done 1 Oct 2007)

Please bear with me for 2 more weeks as currently supplier still having problem with cash flow so only able to provide 1250 per refund, after that , more cash will be refunded per stage
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Excellent.

It seems that you are puttingthe full amount here, i have already updated on the mainpage. PLease crosscheck if the balance and refunded amount is correct as well. Thank you

Looking forward to the next refunds.
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post Oct 3 2007, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Oct 2 2007, 01:43 PM)
Hallo nic sorry the full amount for yours are wrong as I double checked my mail, it seem yours are 5530, btw , I deduct the HDD from the total okay? RM230 =)

so its 5300 new total for yours smile.gif
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Noted =) Thank you
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post Oct 15 2007, 11:09 PM

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Hi s[H]sIkuA, please provide a more accurate info on the refund so that i can update on the front page.

Additionally, as vhanded mentioned, will there be more funds to be refunded next ? cause this is taking too long if it continues.

Please revise the amount. If you want us to make an upfront payment for the items, please don't take your own sweet time when it comes to refunds.

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post Oct 21 2007, 02:55 PM

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The usual, when will be the next refunds ?
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post Nov 22 2007, 04:34 PM

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post Dec 19 2007, 10:08 AM

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What happened to "more" refund after clearing the other's amount ?

Your Supplier really is a joker, already 6 months and still can delay somemore on the delay ? c'mon. The money was not suppose to be that LONG to refund in the beginning.
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post Jan 14 2008, 08:14 PM

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Still no news or any update ?
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post Feb 7 2008, 03:11 PM

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o.O b Excellent
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post Feb 21 2008, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(s[H]sIkuA @ Feb 18 2008, 04:51 PM)
nic : just want inform you that the money is abit delayed,will be here on 28th this month. Sorry to inform you about that.

I will clear all the fund on 28. (and also RM95 for sanfa , sorry I forgot about you)
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Noted, no problem.
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