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 thoughts on slotted / drilled rotor?, planning to upgrade but alot of myths

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mADmAN
post Jun 3 2021, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(JZenith @ May 31 2021, 01:39 PM)
considering whether to upgrade the type and size of rotor, then only can pick the right size of pads and caliper.
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thats not how u go about it. u should look at the 3 components as a kit and do everything all in 1 go. has a lot to do with fitment (gotta make sure ur wheels also has the clearance for the upgraded brakes). if u only upgrade rotor now, u will be stuck with the stock size rotor and dimensions. caliper choices will most likely be limited to just 1 - ur original (unless ur car has a massive aftermarket for PnP caliper for the stock rotor, which i doubt. coz even Hondas has minimal aftermarket for this)

QUOTE(JZenith @ May 31 2021, 01:39 PM)
if slotted / drilled rotor helps in braking distance, no harm in upgrading incase of emergency braking / minimizing accident damages.

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but why not if it helps braking distance biggrin.gif
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it doesnt help in braking distance. thats what people tend to get confused about. even if it does, its likely negligible.

slotted and drilled rotors are more for removal and dispersion of the gas build up during HARD USE. not town use. and that oso, this gas build up is more to asbestos based brake pads.....and asbestos based brake pads no longer exists these days.

supposedly better for heat management as well but then again... especially with cross drilled rotors, you have lesser surface area for heat dissipation...so this part cant say much


as many have said, for ur use and also ur stated priorities. stick to original and just upgrade the pads. the pads will give u MUCH more benefit than a rotor change. and depending on the pad, it can be cheaper than the rotor change but still give u MUCH better braking than the rotor ever will. u can install a supercar brake system in ur car with a massive cross drilled and slotted rotor and gajillion pot caliper, but if u pair that with lousy pads, ull still get lousy braking. the pad upgrade will help more in lowering braking distance than the rotor.

ive had stock brakes upgraded to custom slotted rotors.... no diff. i then upgraded the caliper from single pot to a custom 4pot kit....not much difference... the absolute biggest change ive ever had was when i was on single pot, and upgraded to better brake pads. when i went 4pot i used the same pads as well and seriously, not much diff in terms of bite even on track.



now, if the actual real reason ur interested in slotted n cross drilled is for the looks. just go for it... if thats the case then be honest to urself.....ur just here to try n justify ur purchase. which as u can see from the posts, is not really justifiable based on ur stated priorities and usage. but if looks is what ur after, no need to justify and just go get it.



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post Jun 3 2021, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 3 2021, 02:52 PM)
thats not how u go about it. u should look at the 3 components as a kit and do everything all in 1 go. has a lot to do with fitment (gotta make sure ur wheels also has the clearance for the upgraded brakes). if u only upgrade rotor now, u will be stuck with the stock size rotor and dimensions. caliper choices will most likely be limited to just 1 - ur original (unless ur car has a massive aftermarket for PnP caliper for the stock rotor, which i doubt. coz even Hondas has minimal aftermarket for this)
it doesnt help in braking distance. thats what people tend to get confused about. even if it does, its likely negligible.

slotted and drilled rotors are more for removal and dispersion of the gas build up during HARD USE. not town use. and that oso, this gas build up is more to asbestos based brake pads.....and asbestos based brake pads no longer exists these days.

supposedly better for heat management as well but then again... especially with cross drilled rotors, you have lesser surface area for heat dissipation...so this part cant say much
as many have said, for ur use and also ur stated priorities. stick to original and just upgrade the pads. the pads will give u MUCH more benefit than a rotor change. and depending on the pad, it can be cheaper than the rotor change but still give u MUCH better braking than the rotor ever will. u can install a supercar brake system in ur car with a massive cross drilled and slotted rotor and gajillion pot caliper, but if u pair that with lousy pads, ull still get lousy braking. the pad upgrade will help more in lowering braking distance than the rotor.

ive had stock brakes upgraded to custom slotted rotors.... no diff. i then upgraded the caliper from single pot to a custom 4pot kit....not much difference... the absolute biggest change ive ever had was when i was on single pot, and upgraded to better brake pads. when i went 4pot i used the same pads as well and seriously, not much diff in terms of bite even on track.
now, if the actual real reason ur interested in slotted n cross drilled is for the looks. just go for it... if thats the case then be honest to urself.....ur just here to try n justify ur purchase. which as u can see from the posts, is not really justifiable based on ur stated priorities and usage. but if looks is what ur after, no need to justify and just go get it.
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Sadly many mod their car parts without weighing the safety aspects. Especially fake BBK. If wanna go for both looks and performance, just go for the brembo refurbished/recond 18z or f50. Pricey? Yes, but definitely better than a set of fakes from Thai, Taiwan or even China.
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post Jun 3 2021, 03:51 PM

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Upgrade your brake pads ( the easiest and quickest way to feel improvement i.e. Bendix Metal King Titanium etc ), your brake fluids and steel braided hose.

If you can afford to combine those 3 package you will see quite a lot of improvement for city drive.

You do not need to go further.
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post Jun 7 2021, 03:54 AM

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 3 2021, 02:52 PM)
as many have said, for ur use and also ur stated priorities. stick to original and just upgrade the pads. the pads will give u MUCH more benefit than a rotor change. and depending on the pad, it can be cheaper than the rotor change but still give u MUCH better braking than the rotor ever will. u can install a supercar brake system in ur car with a massive cross drilled and slotted rotor and gajillion pot caliper, but if u pair that with lousy pads, ull still get lousy braking. the pad upgrade will help more in lowering braking distance than the rotor.
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Actually very well said on just the brake pads alone.
I drive a pickup truck with dinner plate discs (all standard factory), pads also have eco range and better compound ones. The elcheapo ones only produce lots of dust and doesn't stop well.

Getting the right pads (actually right now im running MK Kashiyama https://www.mk-kashiyama.com/en some less famous brand pads) and consistent brake fluid changes every 2-3years work well for me. I leave the pad selection to my regular mechanic. He knows my preference- I like them grippy (for normal street use), I just leave it to him and he kautim for me; as I remember definitely not "commonly heard of" TRx or Bendxx brands smile.gif

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post Jun 7 2021, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(JZenith @ May 31 2021, 11:41 AM)
planning to upgrade my brake rotor to slotted + drilled.
mainly city drive, normally drive fast but not aggressive, soft on pedals and brakes.

been through online researched and here's what i know about slotted+drilled rotors:
1) brake pads wear faster. (but how fast? my cousin motorcycle 200cc is slotted rotor, 40k city driving brake pad still have around 30%)
2) drilled rotor will crack eventually if rotor too hot but doesn't affect much for city driving. (not really a concern for me, rarely hard braking)
3) braking is much more quiet. (is this true?)

appreciate all for the time and effort on replies !
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What brake pads are you using now? Choosing the right pads can improve your braking without affecting cold/initial bite of the braking system. Not necessary to get higher temp or sports/race pads as some have below par cold bite.

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post Jul 24 2021, 10:04 PM

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hi sifus

came across these 2 rotor at shopee

plain to upgrade to my Perodua

which is better

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post Jul 24 2021, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Jul 24 2021, 10:04 PM)
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hi sifus

came across these 2 rotor at shopee

plain to upgrade to my Perodua

which is better
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Neither. Get the trw xps instead and pair with their dtec ceramic brake pads.
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post Jul 25 2021, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Jul 24 2021, 10:04 PM)
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hi sifus

came across these 2 rotor at shopee

plain to upgrade to my Perodua

which is better
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for cosmetic wise any will do, for better braking, a good brake pad + steelbraided brakehose.
i changed my brake pads and hose, the effect is superb.
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post Jul 25 2021, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(JZenith @ Jul 25 2021, 01:20 PM)
for cosmetic wise any will do, for better braking, a good brake pad + steelbraided brakehose.
i changed my brake pads and hose, the effect is superb.
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Super sweet spot combo:

Good brake pads + steel braided brake hose + good set of tyres

Decent recipe for a competent braking performance
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post Jul 25 2021, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(darkdevilrey @ Jul 24 2021, 10:04 PM)
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hi sifus

came across these 2 rotor at shopee

plain to upgrade to my Perodua

which is better
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None, don't buy those drilled ones. Get the TRW XPS slotted if you need to replace, otherwise just leave it stock.

 

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