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TSseong22368
post May 28 2021, 07:20 AM, updated 5y ago

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I had make my furniture purchase on March at Manja Living a.k.a Manja Furniture Design at Semenyih. I bought dining set from the boss Mr.Ang and he promise that I can get my dining set on end of May or begin of June. However when I contact him he said his supplier didn't deliver the dining chair that I wanted. After several discussion I finally requested refund for the chair price only. As he told me before I make purchase that the chair was RM250 each. So I requested to refund RM 250 each, but he told me after he check the sales order the chair only sell me RM200 so he only willing to refund RM200 for each chair. Here come our argument because in sales order it written whole dinning set is RM1650. So I then request since he said is RM200 and I said he told me is RM 250before I make purchase,then I requested to full refund instead of only the chair So we don't have to argue the chair price, but he refuse So my question is how can I get back the refund as RM 250 as he mentioned to me before. He refuse to refund to me if I insisted to get back RM 250 each and mentioned the sales order has a clause mentioned non refundable. Is it really that if the seller don't have stock and customers request to refund is still not refundable? Any ways that I can claim back without need to file a claim at tribunal?
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post May 28 2021, 07:31 AM

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I think you misunderstood him.

If you buy the complete set, the chair is special at RM200.

If like your reasoning, then many would have ordered a set and strip the purchase later on.

A per unit complete set is always cheaper than an individual unit purchase ... a norm in any industry.

If the seller is smart, he will tell you the table now cost RM850 and refund you the balance. I assumed is 4 chairs.

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TSseong22368
post May 28 2021, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ May 28 2021, 07:31 AM)
I think you misunderstood him.

If you buy the complete set, the chair is special at RM200.

If like your reasoning, then many would have ordered a set and strip the purchase later on.

A per unit complete set is always cheaper than an individual unit purchase ... a norm in any industry.

If the seller is smart, he will tell you the table now cost RM850 and refund you the balance. I assumed is 4 chairs.
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I don't know because he didn't write in the sales order. Now I feel like he tells me 250 when come to refund is 200. The feel like cheated by this seller. So in your opinion the way he calculate is correct and I should accept that?
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post May 28 2021, 08:02 AM

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QUOTE(seong22368 @ May 28 2021, 07:58 AM)
I don't know because he didn't write in the sales order. Now I feel like he tells me 250 when come to refund is 200. The feel like cheated by this seller.  So in your opinion the way he calculate is correct and I should accept that?
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No seller will write individual unit price in the sales order if is a set purchase..

As explained earlier, he is not cheating you. He reduced his profit margin to sell a complete set.

If you can wait, then you get the chair at RM200.

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TSseong22368
post May 28 2021, 08:25 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ May 28 2021, 08:02 AM)
No seller will write individual unit price in the sales order if is a set purchase..

As explained earlier, he is not cheating you. He reduced his profit margin to sell a complete set.

If you can wait, then you get the chair at RM200.
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But the fellow don't have timeline when can I get the chair. Been waited for almost 3 months. How I gonna dine without my dining chair. Lol. If really like what you mentioned why when I ask him the price for chair and he only tell me RM 250 but he didn't mentioned if buy in set the chair is only RM200. If statement made clear at the first place then is ok la. That's why felt cheated. Also feel that it's not make sense to wait for chairs more than 3 months.

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post May 28 2021, 08:27 AM

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Anyone has experience before can advise?
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post May 28 2021, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(seong22368 @ May 28 2021, 08:25 AM)
But the fellow don't have timeline when can I get the chair. Been waited for almost 3 months. How I gonna dine without my dining chair. Lol. If really like what you mentioned why when I ask him the price for chair and he only tell me RM 250 but  he didn't mentioned if buy in set the chair is only RM200. If statement made clear at the first place then is ok la. That's why felt cheated. Also feel that it's not make sense to wait for chairs more than 3 months.
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His supplier will give him the same deal.

1. He didnt expect his suplier have no stock.

2. You didnt ask about individual purchase price from start. He will only tell you the price for complete set. No seller will like to sell individual item due to logistic problem. Colours may varies from batch to batch.

3. Communication breakdown


Well let wait for others to reply.


Edit ...

If he refund you RM250 each for the chair, he will make a loss for the sale of the table.

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post May 28 2021, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ May 28 2021, 08:50 AM)
His supplier will give him the same deal.

1. He didnt expect his suplier have no stock.

2. You didnt ask about individual purchase price from start. He will only tell you the price for complete set. No seller will like to sell individual item due to logistic problem. Colours may varies from batch to batch.

3. Communication breakdown
Well let wait for others to reply.
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If he refund you RM250 each for the chair, he will make a loss for the sale of the table.
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Now I know. You are the seller from manja living.
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post May 28 2021, 09:29 AM

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submit an inquiry to e-tribunal, they will tell you if can sue them.
but of course, u must have the prove, maybe a conversation history.

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QUOTE(seong22368 @ May 28 2021, 09:04 AM)
Now I know. You are the seller from manja living.
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You can't expect to have the only answer you want here at forum, what orchard said could be true, if you really couldn't accept what the seller offer you only can go to tribunal. From my opinion the seller don't have any reason to cheat you as if he want he can simply say the chair only worth 50, 100, 150 or any lower amount than 200.
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post May 28 2021, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(hendry91 @ May 28 2021, 09:29 AM)
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submit an inquiry to e-tribunal, they will tell you if can sue them.
but of course, u must have the prove, maybe a conversation history.
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Thanks for your advice, however I don't wish to go to tribunal as it time consuming and not worth the effort. l'm looking for other solutions
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post May 28 2021, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(seong22368 @ May 28 2021, 09:04 AM)
Now I know. You are the seller from manja living.
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A childish reply.
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post May 28 2021, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(apalexar @ May 28 2021, 09:33 AM)
You can't expect to have the only answer you want here at forum, what orchard said could be true, if you really couldn't accept what the seller offer you only can go to tribunal. From my opinion the seller don't have any reason to cheat you as if he want he can simply say the chair only worth 50, 100, 150 or any lower amount than 200.
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Make sense, just wondering if anyone faced this problem and has experience to solved this without tribunal involved. My very first time facing this kind of issue. Just check here.

Thanks for advise. But don't make sense if seller said it only worth 50 or so when outside selling more than 200. Anyway thanks.
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post May 28 2021, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ May 28 2021, 09:40 AM)
A childish reply.
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Thanks you.
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post May 28 2021, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(seong22368 @ May 28 2021, 09:44 AM)
Thanks you.
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Welcome. Hope you learn something today.

I share info with forumers in good faith and if you dont agree, is your right.

Dont simply accused without proof as if I know your real identity, I would just take you to court.

Btw, this is not kopitiam section.

Show some respect for others.

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post May 28 2021, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(seong22368 @ May 28 2021, 09:04 AM)
Now I know. You are the seller from manja living.
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Huh?
From what I see.. years in this property/home Reno & design section...
He/she just giving logic advice....
Quite knowledgeable person....
To accused... Is not proper...
TSseong22368
post May 28 2021, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ May 28 2021, 09:49 AM)
Welcome. Hope you learn something today.

I share info with forumers in good faith and if you dont agree, is your right.

Dont simply accused without proof as if I know your real identity, I would just take you to court.

Btw, this is not kopitiam section.

Show some respect for others.
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Sure. Thanks. And sorry about that because you have all details as what I communicate with the seller where I didn't post those details in this t topic. That's cause me to suspect that.
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post May 28 2021, 10:48 AM

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I will close this topic now. Thanks for all your advise.
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post May 28 2021, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(seong22368 @ May 28 2021, 10:48 AM)
I will close this topic now. Thanks for all your advise.
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This is how i reply to other forumers.

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5150716

 

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