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jack2
post Dec 9 2021, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(David900924 @ Dec 9 2021, 12:40 PM)
crypto is not acceptable activities to banks, by declaring you are doing crypto as ur job and apply loan from bank, is it even possible? they might as well close all ur banks for that matter. Coz i hav few circles all blacklist from it after they known you are on crypto.
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David is right. You can't declare "terang2" to banks.

QUOTE(hbm90 @ Dec 9 2021, 12:58 PM)
Yes declare. Under borang BE, pendapatan lain lain.
A lot of people will advise you and say no need to declare because still no guideline or whatever. But better you declare to be on safe side.
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Only declare the gains if it is due to trading gains and not capital gains.

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post Dec 9 2021, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 9 2021, 05:03 PM)
David is right. You can't declare "terang2" to banks.
Only declare the gains if it is due to trading gains and not capital gains.
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Better to declare whatever gains. It will not be easy to differentiate between trading gains and capital gains. LHDN may have their own interpretation of it.
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post Dec 9 2021, 07:00 PM

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QUOTE(hbm90 @ Dec 9 2021, 06:46 PM)
Better to declare whatever gains. It will not be easy to differentiate between trading gains and capital gains. LHDN may have their own interpretation of it.
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Interpretation is not based on "their". It is based on the rule and substance of the transactions. So the traders/investors have to define their transactions. It is very simple to differential only.

Don't tell me that I bought ETH in 4-5 years ago when it was USD150 and I sell now at USD4000 and I made huge profits and I need to pay? It is 100% capital gain.

Don't buta to pay tax just because of mahu senang. You have your rights.

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David900924
post Dec 9 2021, 08:06 PM

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if your purpose is to use reported earnings to apply bank facilities like high end credit card or loan, better forget it, coz once they find out it is derived from crypto, you are gone for good, they start send out mail to close relationship with you and you cant use any bank facilities for life coz you are flag as high risk profile in their system. you can't undo and you will regret it...
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post Dec 22 2021, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(David900924 @ Dec 9 2021, 08:06 PM)
if your purpose is to use reported earnings to apply bank facilities like high end credit card or loan, better forget it, coz once they find out it is derived from crypto, you are gone for good, they start send out mail to close relationship with you and you cant use any bank facilities for life coz you are flag as high risk profile in their system. you can't undo and you will regret it...
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So hypothetically if I kena jackpot from one of those x1000 altcoins and made RM500k now and I want to 'cash out' to buy a house or car. What is the best way? Since we can't "declare" it the normal way.
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post Dec 22 2021, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(KahVII @ Dec 22 2021, 07:05 PM)
So hypothetically if I kena jackpot from one of those x1000 altcoins and made RM500k now and I want to 'cash out' to buy a house or car. What is the best way? Since we can't "declare" it the normal way.
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My advise is better to consult auditor or accountant.

They will tell you some ways.
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post Dec 23 2021, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(KahVII @ Dec 22 2021, 06:05 PM)
So hypothetically if I kena jackpot from one of those x1000 altcoins and made RM500k now and I want to 'cash out' to buy a house or car. What is the best way? Since we can't "declare" it the normal way.
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You can contact me. I can help you.
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post Dec 23 2021, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 23 2021, 06:34 AM)
You can contact me. I can help you.
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Are you an accountant or lawyer??
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post Dec 23 2021, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Dec 23 2021, 03:11 PM)
Are you an accountant or lawyer??
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accountant
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post Dec 23 2021, 03:55 PM

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Ic..nice to meet you. Freelancer?

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post Dec 23 2021, 04:15 PM

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QUOTE(leo_kiatez @ Dec 23 2021, 03:55 PM)
Ic..nice to meet you. Freelancer?
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Yes.

Like David said, don't declare such crypto income for the purpose to buy property or assets. It won't be worked.
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post Dec 23 2021, 06:03 PM

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Anyone know how much we can withdraw per month before banks starts noticing? Eg rm20k per withdrawal will trigger them?
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post Dec 23 2021, 10:10 PM

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Someone reported my replies here.... Huhu


So I won't contribute anymore
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post Dec 24 2021, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(sixshot @ Dec 23 2021, 06:03 PM)
Anyone know how much we can withdraw per month before banks starts noticing? Eg rm20k per withdrawal will  trigger them?
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Don't think there is a definite answer, it depends on the bank. I have withdrawn more than 20k a month and it's ok
The other thread someone reporting 2k from remitano got closed account

QUOTE(jack2 @ Dec 23 2021, 10:10 PM)
Someone reported my replies here.... Huhu
So I won't contribute anymore
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Sorry to hear, but there are all kinds of people, just ignore nod.gif
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post Dec 24 2021, 10:34 PM

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Just curious, to all of you that had withdrawn via Luno, there should be no worries about tax records and blacklist or frozen account all right? Just fill in tax form like normal right? Planning to withdraw my initial BTC invested in 2017 via Luno early next year. (Have 3x)

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post Dec 27 2021, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(KahVII @ Dec 22 2021, 06:05 PM)
So hypothetically if I kena jackpot from one of those x1000 altcoins and made RM500k now and I want to 'cash out' to buy a house or car. What is the best way? Since we can't "declare" it the normal way.
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there always a way, crypto is not the only asset people want to cash out, so dont worry, im sure many bros here can share privately, as im not offering those services.


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post Dec 28 2021, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(ljken @ Dec 24 2021, 11:34 PM)
Just curious, to all of you that had withdrawn via Luno, there should be no worries about tax records and blacklist or frozen account all right? Just fill in tax form like normal right? Planning to withdraw my initial BTC invested in 2017 via Luno early next year. (Have 3x)
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i have said this many times here, consult a tax accountant or auditor.

Get advice before making decision.
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post Jan 26 2022, 10:39 PM

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My good friend kaya gila doing crypto. Ssm some IT and travel agency business then declare tax. Purchased properties in dubai and cyprus, driving new aston martin. Emirates first class flight evertime. But very lay low. Followers on ig <20. Planning to launch own blockchain and crypto coin soon.

I asked him how he move money, he answered make money first then he will show the way. Hahaha

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post Jan 31 2022, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(iena_jr @ Jan 26 2022, 10:39 PM)
My good friend kaya gila doing crypto. Ssm some IT and travel agency business then declare tax. Purchased properties in dubai and cyprus, driving new aston martin. Emirates first class flight evertime. But very lay low. Followers on ig <20. Planning to launch own blockchain and crypto coin soon.

I asked him how he move money, he answered make money first then he will show the way. Hahaha
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wow, what is the blockchain name
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post Feb 1 2022, 03:06 AM

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QUOTE(stockerzzz @ Jan 31 2022, 02:16 PM)
wow, what is the blockchain name
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I forgot the name. Not sure if he has launched it or not. He planned to launch in November last year.

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