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TSjudas
post May 17 2021, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(sunami @ May 17 2021, 03:33 PM)
so you are saying firing rocket to the innocent or bcome a tellolist is justifiable?
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Im not taking sides but u must know, they are now being occupied. When u take away others land, u expect them to play nice?

Dont turn into another history lesson of who is right and wrong. Both are wrong; but it is still jews that took other peoples land, annexed it, while west sit there watch with popcorn.
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post May 17 2021, 03:45 PM

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sure, send wonder womens here
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post May 17 2021, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ May 17 2021, 03:38 PM)
erm no, jews were not welcomed from the start, btw before WWII there were already jews in that part of the world, co-existing with christians and muslims. they were driven out in 1930s and 1948 during wars.
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Please state your source where jews were not welcomed from the start?

Jews, christians and muslims have been living in this land for centuries.

The British occupation gave a mandate to Palestinians in 1920 and formed a government of Palestine.
Government of Palestine allowed jews to migrate here.
The British restricted amount of jews who are able to apply and get a visa from the government of Palestine as too many came that shifted the demographic of the nation.
The illegal immigrants who were mostly jews were stateless living in Palestine.

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"What was the British policy on Jewish immigration?

British policy regarding Jewish immigration into Palestine evolved during the mandate period, as did the Jewish European response to it.

A policy favouring it from 1919 to 1930: The British were in favour of the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. The first Zionists, under the Ottoman Empire, had been able to establish themselves in the country under the protection of foreign consulates, notably British ones. Nonetheless, in the wake of the increase in immigration during the 20th century’s first decades, Arab Palestinians began pressuring Great Britain, which found itself in the political crossfire. From the 1930s on, the British authority began providing fewer immigration certificates than there was a demand for. But the real change in policy took place in 1939.

Restrictions and criminalisation of Jewish immigration to Palestine from 1939 on: In an attempt to mollify the Arab Palestinian population, Great Britain emitted in 1939 a “white paper” restricting Jewish immigration to Palestine to 75,000 people over five years and limiting the purchase of land by Jews.[9] The creation of an independent Arab state within 10 years was also intended. However, the policy did not really slow Jewish immigration, because it opened the door to illegal immigration at a moment when the persecution of Jews in Europe was only intensifying. Until WWII began, and even after, tens of thousands of Jewish immigrants arrived in Palestine. Despite the interception of some ships by the British, many immigrants were able to establish themselves in Palestine.

The immigrants also found out how to establish themselves in Palestine thanks to gaps in the British system of regulation. For example, given that students were not obliged to have an immigration certificate to study in Palestine, many people enrolled at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem then remained in the country. Some young women entered the country declaring fictitious marriages to Palestinians. Still others arrived as tourists and never left. In the end, between 1939 and 1948, 118,228 Jews reached Palestine, despite the British restrictions. [10]

After the war, Great Britain jailed thousands of the illegal immigrants in detention camps in Cyprus.[11] This attempt to staunch immigration failed, and Britain was reproached for it in the post-Holocaust context."

Source: https://www.cjpme.org/fs_181

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Shimon Peres, former Israeli president applied for citizenship with the Government of Palestine and was approved.
"I, ________ swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and loyal to the Government of Palestine." Signed by the former president of Israel

How ironic.

This post has been edited by Fanvil1534: May 17 2021, 04:08 PM
sunami
post May 17 2021, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(judas @ May 17 2021, 04:43 PM)
Im not taking sides but u must know, they are now being occupied. When u take away others land, u expect them to play nice?

Dont turn into another history lesson of who is right and wrong. Both are wrong; but it is still jews that took other peoples land, annexed it, while west sit there watch with popcorn.
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both are wrong..u are right...
but then...majority that support hamas is purely bcos same same mentality..
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post May 17 2021, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(judas @ May 17 2021, 03:43 PM)
Im not taking sides but u must know, they are now being occupied. When u take away others land, u expect them to play nice?

Dont turn into another history lesson of who is right and wrong. Both are wrong; but it is still jews that took other peoples land, annexed it, while west sit there watch with popcorn.
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So total destruction of Israel is what you want is it?

Say it out loud, be honest
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post May 18 2021, 12:37 AM

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Don’t worry if Malaysian Army line of defense breaks we have a lot of pubg and cod commandos to fight for us

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post May 19 2021, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Fanvil1534 @ May 17 2021, 04:06 PM)
Please state your source where jews were not welcomed from the start?

Jews, christians and muslims have been living in this land for centuries.

The British occupation gave a mandate to Palestinians in 1920 and formed a government of Palestine.
Government of Palestine allowed jews to migrate here.
The British restricted amount of jews who are able to apply and get a visa from the government of Palestine as too many came that shifted the demographic of the nation.
The illegal immigrants who were mostly jews were stateless living in Palestine.

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"What was the British policy on Jewish immigration?

British policy regarding Jewish immigration into Palestine evolved during the mandate period, as did the Jewish European response to it.

A policy favouring it from 1919 to 1930: The British were in favour of the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine. The first Zionists, under the Ottoman Empire, had been able to establish themselves in the country under the protection of foreign consulates, notably British ones. Nonetheless, in the wake of the increase in immigration during the 20th century’s first decades, Arab Palestinians began pressuring Great Britain, which found itself in the political crossfire. From the 1930s on, the British authority began providing fewer immigration certificates than there was a demand for. But the real change in policy took place in 1939.

Restrictions and criminalisation of Jewish immigration to Palestine from 1939 on: In an attempt to mollify the Arab Palestinian population, Great Britain emitted in 1939 a “white paper” restricting Jewish immigration to Palestine to 75,000 people over five years and limiting the purchase of land by Jews.[9] The creation of an independent Arab state within 10 years was also intended. However, the policy did not really slow Jewish immigration, because it opened the door to illegal immigration at a moment when the persecution of Jews in Europe was only intensifying. Until WWII began, and even after, tens of thousands of Jewish immigrants arrived in Palestine. Despite the interception of some ships by the British, many immigrants were able to establish themselves in Palestine.

The immigrants also found out how to establish themselves in Palestine thanks to gaps in the British system of regulation. For example, given that students were not obliged to have an immigration certificate to study in Palestine, many people enrolled at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem then remained in the country. Some young women entered the country declaring fictitious marriages to Palestinians. Still others arrived as tourists and never left. In the end, between 1939 and 1948, 118,228 Jews reached Palestine, despite the British restrictions. [10]

After the war, Great Britain jailed thousands of the illegal immigrants in detention camps in Cyprus.[11] This attempt to staunch immigration failed, and Britain was reproached for it in the post-Holocaust context."

Source: https://www.cjpme.org/fs_181

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Shimon Peres, former Israeli president applied for citizenship with the Government of Palestine and was approved.
"I, ________ swear by Almighty God that I will be faithful and loyal to the Government of Palestine." Signed by the former president of Israel

How ironic.
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Will Malaysia be another Palestine? Later rohinya take over😂
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post May 19 2021, 06:57 PM

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post May 19 2021, 07:17 PM

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Why USA support such actions
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Malaysia Says It Will Send Arms to Bosnians


By Michael Richardson
Published : July 24, 1995




SINGAPORE— In the first public breach of the United Nations ban on supplying arms to Bosnia, Malaysia said Sunday that it would ignore the embargo and send weapons to the Muslim-led government in Sarajevo.

In a clear sign of growing resolve by Islamic countries to become directly involved in the conflict, even if it means a wider, more intense war, Malaysian officials said that other Muslim nations were also committed to providing military aid to Bosnia.

Mahathir bin Mohamad, the Malaysian prime minister, said that while the UN and NATO forbade the supply of arms to all parties in the former Yugoslavia, separatist Serbs in Bosnia were getting weapons and oil to attack and seize territory held by the Bosnian government.

The UN and NATO were " allowing the slaughtering of Bosnians by the Serbs, " Mr. Mahathir said.

Analysts said that Kuala Lumpur's decision to ignore the embargo was significant because Malaysia already has a substantial military presence in Bosnia and its views reflect those of many other governments of Muslim- majority countries.

Malaysia has more than 1,500 troops in Bosnia serving as peacekeepers with the UN Protection Force. It is the third largest contingent after Britain and France.

Mr. Mahathir's statement followed a declaration by the Organization of Islamic Conference, which links nearly all the world's Muslim-controlled states, that the UN arms embargo on Bosnia was " invalid. "

The declaration was issued Friday in Geneva following a meeting of the foreign ministers of Malaysia and seven other countries in the organization's " contact group " on Bosnia.

They included Turkey, a NATO member, and Pakistan - both of which have troops with the UN in Bosnia - as well as Iran, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Senegal and Egypt.

Analysts said that the declaration was intended to encourage the U.S. Congress to defy President Bill Clinton and pass a resolution that would in effect oblige the administration to lift the UN arms embargo on Bosnia. The Senate is to vote on the measure on Tuesday.

America's NATO allies say such a move would force them to withdraw their troops from the country to keep them from being caught up in intensified fighting between Bosnian and Serbian forces.

The Bosnian foreign minister, Mohammed Sacirbey, who attended the Islamic conference meeting, said afterward that he had received pledges of weaponry from a number of countries. He declined to say which ones.

There have been persistent reports for some time that Muslim countries have been channelling arms to the Muslim-led Bosnian government, but until Friday they had all formally recognized the embargo.

According to the declaration issued in Geneva, Islamic states that already have troops with the UN in Bosnia would leave them there, perhaps beefed up, if the UN Protection Force pulled out, Reuters reported.

Syed Hamid Albar, Malaysia's defense minister, said recently that Kuala Lumpur wanted to double the strength of its battalion in Bosnia and supply it with long-range heavy weapons.

Razali Ismail, Malaysia's ambassador to the United Nations in New York, said Sunday that although Malaysia did not want the fighting in Bosnia to escalate, something decisive had to be done to enable the Bosnians to defend themselves against the Serbs, who are mainly Orthodox Christians.

The declaration by the Islamic conference sought to defuse concerns in Europe, promoted by the Serbs, that Muslim countries were intent on waging a " holy war " in defense of Islam in Bosnia.

The declaration said that Muslim states would give " all kinds of support " to strengthen the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, a structure under which Bosnian Muslims and mainly Catholic Croats have joined in an uneasy alliance.

Chandra Muzaffar, a political scientist at the Science University in the Malaysian state of Penang, said Sunday that there were fears among some in the West that the emergence of a Muslim-led Bosnian state would strengthen Islam in a predominantly Christian Europe.

But he said that the sympathetic stand over Bosnia taken by individuals and aid agencies in the West, including Christian organizations, showed that the issue transcended religion.

Mr. Muzaffar said that Malaysia and other Muslim nations supporting Bosnia were responding to " a humanitarian cause involving helpless human beings trapped in a tragic situation. "



Sources : http://www.nytimes.com/1995/07/24/news/24iht-malay_0.html





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post May 19 2021, 09:11 PM

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post May 19 2021, 09:21 PM

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No wonder lah in Malaysia they defend hamas like some sort of deity organisation
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post May 19 2021, 09:37 PM

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They have been doing this all along... No surprise
Like what happened to UniKL lecturer in 2018

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43851065
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post May 26 2021, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ May 17 2021, 02:13 PM)
Malaysia vs Israel military ranking

44/140 vs 20/140

not that far pun, come !
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So near yet so far...shalom !

Israel Spy plane flew pass by Malaysia
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post May 26 2021, 09:56 AM

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post May 26 2021, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(harumanis_man @ May 16 2021, 05:50 PM)
destroy operative for what ?

useless operation

just invade with Abbas troops

then leave n ask PLO troops to takeover...problem settle no more rockets
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it means a final warning if you don't want to order free missile delivery better shut up.
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post May 26 2021, 10:22 AM

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PN just made enemy with both North Korea and Israel within a year.

Consider this their achievement putting all Malaysians lives at risk.
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post May 26 2021, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(white_ra @ May 16 2021, 07:10 PM)
Answer me . You acknowledge or not ? HAMAS is terrorist , yes or no.

Keep saying my stand towards the Israel. But not answering my question.

Don't try to shift the focus.
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whoever starts a war is a terrorist, or whoever retaliate is the terrorist?

definition differs depending which side you are on.
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post May 26 2021, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(B1az3 @ May 16 2021, 07:15 PM)
leave the rest alone. those that want to fight can go ahead.
but then if war happens, the innocents will suffer too.
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they should send those who want to fight to settle in combat by trial, make it like olympic sports live telecast worldwide let the world see who is the winner and let it end right there.

the rest just shut up.

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post May 26 2021, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ May 16 2021, 08:36 PM)
Cause & effect.

Locally, I also symphatize with the folks in Kelantan who seem to be caught in the same Catch 22 situation.
Perhaps, they are incapable of making any other decision hence the constant loop of death & destruction.

You are right that it is a mess halfway around the world that we should not get dragged in to.
There is a Malay saying that the germs across the river are visible to the eye but the elephant in the backyard is disregarded.
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"the germs across the river are visible to the eye"

they must have invented the the hybrid of microscope and telescope back then.

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