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post Oct 21 2022, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 5 2022, 02:56 PM)
Yeah but for hihihehe case above, since he was going to settle for 65" but unsure due to the viewing distance, what I would recommend is to just settle for 65 instead of going smaller

Unless his viewing distance is really so close that its unhealthy
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what about 8ft or about 2.4m? would 65" overkill?


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post Oct 21 2022, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 21 2022, 05:00 PM)
55 inch more suitable to be on the safe side. though I feel 65 would be fine also
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ya okay, thanks mate!

But too bad they don't have 60", otherwise i think 60" would be perfect.
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post Oct 21 2022, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 21 2022, 05:15 PM)
decided to go for 65x85k after hearing all the comments. bigger is always better

hopefully can get a cheaper price in end of year
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why not x90k? full array instead?

Edit: actually i can't decide between x85k vs x90k too.... rclxub.gif rclxub.gif


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post Oct 21 2022, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 21 2022, 05:48 PM)
all about money

is either go for 55" x90k or 65x85k but i think the size does matter here  brows.gif
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true that money and size does matter here.....

by the way, astro Go app is available on this Google TV right?
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post Oct 22 2022, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 21 2022, 07:18 PM)
x90k is "better" than x85k, $ also higher la... biggrin.gif

astrogo? nah... it doesn't work on ATV devices, by design.

it works on a minority of android boxes; some need modified apks, some dun - these r rare.
if u decide to buy x85k or x90k, pls post here... price, seller, etc...

i m eyeing these 2 too, thanks! :thumbsup:
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Hahha alright. Do share the good deals that you've come across.

I'm only start looking, haven't pull the trigger yet. Probably will do so during 1111 sale. Let's see how.
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post Oct 22 2022, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 22 2022, 08:22 AM)
these promotion prices are actually quite good, ends tmr.

https://store.sony.com.my/collections/televisions

let's see if it gets better towards yr end!
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Good deal, I think so far it is the cheapest deal for 55x90k already, cheaper than one living who quoted me 4450.

now Sony 4139 nett with a free k400 logitech keyboard some more.


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post Oct 23 2022, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(tehoice @ Oct 22 2022, 04:20 PM)
Good deal, I think so far it is the cheapest deal for 55x90k already, cheaper than one living who quoted me 4450.

now Sony 4139 nett with a free k400 logitech keyboard some more.
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pulled the trigger today and got some scare, thought sold out, due to some issue earlier, but bought it nonetheless.

can't wait for it to arrive now.
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post Oct 24 2022, 12:45 PM

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Anyone bought directly from Sony before? Roughly how long would it take for them to ship to you? Or arrive at your home?
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post Oct 25 2022, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 24 2022, 02:29 PM)
post yr comments here after u tested it enuf! thumbup.gif
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hahah it's coming tomorrowwww.....

what about you? what's the Sony tv that you're using now?
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post Oct 26 2022, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Oct 26 2022, 09:03 AM)
u bot x90k or x85k?

hv not used a sony for 10 yrs now.

i hv time to wait a bit... either x90k or maybe the coming tcl c835.
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i seee okay

i bought x90k
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post Oct 27 2022, 02:49 PM

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Received my tv yesterday but hardly got time for it, only unbox it during midnight and likely won't touch it until weekend. but here's a picture of it next to my old 42 inch tv.

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post Oct 28 2022, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(sanosizo @ Oct 27 2022, 03:29 PM)
That's a big wall
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ceiling height is high, that's why the wall looks big.

i feel just okay with this 55inch when sitting about 8ft away, although could stretch to 65 inch, might get a bit of motion sickness, i get that easily, so i opted for 55 instead of 65.

QUOTE(sanosizo @ Oct 28 2022, 08:47 AM)
42 and 55 looked like a bunch of pc monitors
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65 look like a small pc monitor too, unless hang a 85 inch tv, but does it make sense with 8ft sitting/viewing distance? don't think so, at least for me, and especially for wallet.
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post Oct 28 2022, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Oct 28 2022, 02:10 PM)
is that your view/distance from sofa? if so, then 55" really do look a bit small
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guess camera view and seeing it with your own eyes does make a difference. it doesnt "look" this small when you see it with your own eyes.

Edit: especially when it's with 0.5x on your camera.

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post Nov 2 2022, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Oct 29 2022, 01:03 PM)
There are 2 issues.

1) People don't understand FOV. You need at least 30-degrees to get an enjoyable viewing experience. For cinema scope, you need 36-degrees (the THX recommendation). You (and many people) get motion sickness because you don't follow this often overlook rule.

2) Angular resolution is important. You spend all that money for 4k just not to be able to resolve it? Why did you 4k then? 8ft is simply too far for a 55" screen. The optimal distance in conjunction with viewing angle is actually 6ft for a 55" screen.
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it is called recommendation for a reason, for the 36 degree and it serves as a guidance/yardstick.

while some people prefer even larger, i.e. 40 degree of FOV or so, see photo below, i understand where you are coming from but i don't think there is a one size fits all solution for every single person.

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Over the weekend, i tried your 6ft viewing distance by pulling my sofa nearer (or maybe i could have moved more, so could be slightly less than 6ft) and guess what, about 40 mins into the movie on netflix, i felt light headed and had to move further away to feel a little better.

perhaps my tolerance for such viewing angle might be somewhat smaller. Optimal for you may not be optimal for others.

And ya, i did made this a reference prior to purchasing a tv (on FOV).

By the way Sony also has its own recommendation of about 1 meter or 3.3ft away for 55inch tv. did you follow this?

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post Nov 2 2022, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 2 2022, 03:41 PM)
It's a recommendation based on how we master movies in the studio. Most studios use a 65" OLED TV and a 31" mastering monitor. Doesn't matter which display it is being viewed, but at any time both will always be at 36-degree FOV for the person mastering the content.

Welp you weren't even sure if you got the sofa distance correct, so... that's on you? Do you also realize that it's not the sofa that needs to be 6ft from the screen, but your head instead? Half a foot already changes the FOV significantly btw.

It's preference at the end of the day indeed not disputing that, but if we go the conjecture that everything is a preference then we won't have a benchmark. Imagine if we had to master movies at 15ft away from a 31" monitor. Think about the consequences.

You're mistaken about Sony's viewing distance recommendation btw. They're talking about angular resolution (hence they wrote there, viewing distance) not FOV. They are related, but they are different things.
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in short, we do not need a rocket science to debate about this i believe, just go with the one that you feel it is comfortable for you, no need to over complicate things. if you are comfortable viewing at that distance for that certain size, by all means go ahead, and after all, you're paying for your own tv. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 2 2022, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 2 2022, 03:41 PM)
It's a recommendation based on how we master movies in the studio. Most studios use a 65" OLED TV and a 31" mastering monitor. Doesn't matter which display it is being viewed, but at any time both will always be at 36-degree FOV for the person mastering the content.

Welp you weren't even sure if you got the sofa distance correct, so... that's on you? Do you also realize that it's not the sofa that needs to be 6ft from the screen, but your head instead? Half a foot already changes the FOV significantly btw.

It's preference at the end of the day indeed not disputing that, but if we go the conjecture that everything is a preference then we won't have a benchmark. Imagine if we had to master movies at 15ft away from a 31" monitor. Think about the consequences.

You're mistaken about Sony's viewing distance recommendation btw. They're talking about angular resolution (hence they wrote there, viewing distance) not FOV. They are related, but they are different things.
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on the bolded, of course. sony also illustrated that it should be from the head to the screen. even if i missed the viewing distance of your 6th, it is still well above sony's recommendation. and if i'm not comfortable with your 6ft, how on earth would i be comfortable with their recommendation? again, to me, it is just a yardstick for your reference, just go with the one that you're comfortable with.

QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 2 2022, 04:12 PM)
That's fair and to be frank, it's barely elementary science nothing near rocket levels  wink.gif
But it's your equipment at the end of the day like you said, so yeah set it up how you like.

My opinion is - you paid so much money for all that equipment and if you're not going to place it right for accuracy, why did you buy all of that for? It's very much the same for speaker placement for example.

Happy viewing.  thumbsup.gif
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it is just one small piece of equipment in life, we have many other priorities in life.

on average, i view my tv like what, 5 hours a week only, so i'm also so gonna be underutilising it, but does it matter?

if i get a super nice tv i should glue to it to maximise pleasure?
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post Nov 2 2022, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 2 2022, 04:43 PM)
You're missing my point.

It doesn't matter if you're gonna spend 5 hours a week on your TV or 5 minutes. My point was, make those minutes the best minutes you can get out of your TV. But how do you achieve that? You do it by sticking to references that people has spent decades in researching - they did the work for you, all you gotta do is adhere.

If you get a JVC NZ8 and you don't even bother to set the throwing distance right in relation to room length and screen size because the image would be too big, then... why did you buy it? That's what I'm saying.

I'm just here telling you what the correct values are and you're telling me you like wrong values because you like it better, and that's ok. Stick with it.
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yup, you're right, make the most out of the time you spent there in that space and yes agree with you that people have done tremendous research and supporting, backing their claims.

but since i feel lightheaded after heeding advice should i still stick with it? or probably i could be the minority needed a little further space? again like i mentioned earlier, optimum for you may not be optimum for another.

if i don't feel comfortable using the recommended settings, I go back to what I think is right for myself, am i still wrong?
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post Nov 2 2022, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(SSJBen @ Nov 2 2022, 05:25 PM)
Yes you're wrong, but that's ok because you don't feel comfortable with the recommended distance.

I would suggest you stick with the closer distance and give it some time. Maybe a few days and see if you could adjust to it, because like any calibration you will have a perception of "old is better" because you're used to it. But again, it's up to you if you want to make the switch or not.
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ahha~! okay no harm trying (other than getting lightheaded) thumbsup.gif


 

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