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hungrygodzilla
post May 10 2021, 05:01 PM

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Hi and congrats for your new house!

Just a few things I noticed on your budget:
1. Your painting budget is grossly under budget, FYI, the typical quotation for 24 x 72 terrace is about 2-3k for material, and about 2-3k for workmanship. Typical quotation i get is about 6k to 9k all in, interior only.
2. Electrical work also super under budget, for typical terrace, it normally run from 4-6k for min work, mine is close to 8-9k range because I added a shit lot of new points. But you really NEEEEEED to add points at your TV console area and kitchen. How I plan is that I write down every single appliances that I current and will own for each location and count how many points I need. And you need to add quite a lot more new points for lights as well. Also, look at your current house, see what appliances you have, count the points and plan their location. Plus, talk to your friends who just moved to a new house, ask what they find useful, and what they regretted, high chance you will feel the same.
3. My staircase storage cabinet + hidden door for store room cost me 10-14k, based on 2 quotation i have on hand. But if you buy shelves and DIY then it might be within 2k budget. But even for my in storeroom shelves, using the IKEA planner for BVOR and IVAR systems, it already cost me close to 2k
4. Ceiling fan as per previous discussion, probably try to avoid the cheapest product from KDK and panasonic. Seems like review not so good. I'm using ALPHA VC3, I remember it's about 300+ each, dont look down on the 3 blade design, it's actually really windy and quiet, I've tested on different ceiling height in all rooms of my house
5. Aircon be prepared to add 150~250 for installation, each.
6. Awning need to bump up to 2k+, I remember avg i get is about 15~18 RM per sqft, your house 20 ft, you definitely need about 6 to 8 feet of awning, can do your maths. I park my car as per how I would normally do, and measure how much awning i need, if possible add a bit more allowance, you have to consider that in times of heavy rain, the rain do drop straight, they get blown in, your wife and future baby will hate you.
7. Kitchen hood becareful, my brother and a friend of mine bought a cheapo model, and their feedback is that it's as good as useless. So you dont want to end up spending lesser on a useless piece of shit
8. Yard security door probably around 1k+

Things to consider:
1. How's the security for your housing area? If it's not good enough to make you feel secured, you will need to pay more for grilles or even high performance window or glass doors. Security door or solid wood door is super duper expensive.
2. Follow up on security, need to consider if you need CCTV and alarm system? Probably cost your 2-3k each.
3. Autogate can be expensive
4. Curtain can be expensive, typical quote for terrace house looking at 2-3k, depending on size and material

Advise:
1. To save money, buy things from taobao. Lights, kitchen sink, toilet accessories. These 3 you can quite safely buy from taobao, but do your homework, find reputable shop. You can save a lot and have a wider range of product to pick from.
2. more power socket, more more more...
3. If possible, dont buy the cheapest model in the range, unless you have friends who can give a honest review, I heard enough stories from my friend buying cheapest shit from any brand and curse when it is just as good as shit.
4. Spend more time to do homework, the more homework you do, the more you save. Know the price of everything you wanna buy so you know the vendor/shopee/lazada is not shitting on you with their "80% discount", whereby the discounted price is just their usual discount price. I started planning once i signed SNP, within the 2 years while waiting for my house, I actually got most of my appliances at a really good discounted rate.
5. If your developer is not ECOWORLD, pay 1k+ to get a reputable defect inspector, this is really like buying insurance for defect because they can really find more defects than you do, plus they are better at sniffing and f`ing your developer's contractor when they try to bullshit with you. contractors are full of bullshit.


I've attached the pricing guideline from my current contractor, please note that, price varies from state to state, company to company. And this quotation I have is considered to be on the mid low end already as compared to other quotation I've access to.

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hungrygodzilla
post May 10 2021, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ May 10 2021, 06:11 PM)
Hi first of all, thank you so much for the tips! I am afraid to engage with ID as their fees is quite high...
Perhaps if anyone here have reputable and recommended contractor contact that somewhat understand my design without the need of ID that would be great!

1. I am definitely aware of amount of plug point must be sufficient to cover many home appliances and based on what I discovered with 8 plug point on living room and another 8 plug point on kitchen should be alright.

2. I am planning to opt out on plaster ceiling as I dont want to install too many downlight, planning to install one downlight like this that can brighten the whole place. https://www.yeelight.com/en_US/product/luna
    Then install some spotlights.

3. Thanks for raising this question, never really give a serious thought what we plan to store in top cabinet, but island for sure needed because my wife insisted haha if take out then GG no happy life.

4. Would definitely have some cabinet prepared on the yard area to keep those rarely use item and hardware tools.

5. Agreed, must do on ground floor toilet and master bedroom toilet.
Thanks for the pricing guideline and also your time!

1. Since our theme is mostly white and the original paint is white also, Do you think it is necessary to repaint?
2. I am blessed that my brother is an Electrician so he can guide me through the electrical part and quote me cheaper on that end.
3. Ahh this one I think we super underbudget, but still thinking do we need the extra storage or not.
4. Thanks, will do more research on 3 blade fan. *easier to maintain too! less 2 blade to clean*
5 and 6. Noted!
7. Any recommended brands? I think Fotile is the leading brand in this industry?
8.  cry.gif  cry.gif

Advise:
1. Okay thanks! will definitely start doing survey on Taobao, luckily my wife huge Taobao fan.
2. OK OK OK NO CHEAP OUT ON SOCKET!
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1. I will say yes, 1 is that you might not get a even coat when you paint again, and all the work esp the electricial work will mess up and dirty your wall, can try to wash la, but probably budget a bit more to avoid surprises
2. Lucky you =) it's good that you have family help for this kinda important work, really scare if outsiders just cheap out on you and do a shitty electrical job.
3. Can add in the future if limited budget, but really depends on the actual quotation you get
4. Good looking too
7. I'm not the right person to advise, but from my research, ROBAM and FOTILE is the top 2 brand in China, i think it won't be too wrong to pick either one, just probably not as cheap as say, morgan and livino. Just, try to get reviews and feedbacks from friends and family.


hungrygodzilla
post May 11 2021, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ May 10 2021, 08:56 PM)
1. Yes for landed I am afraid in the future will need to get a mesh to cover upstairs, but for now I plan to setup my desktop beside the storage area underneath the staircase. A small personal area for me to work and game.
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2. Oh from what I found now the latest tech for those surface downlight can switch color via mobile app and is quite bright. But I'll need to do a more thorough research on this first hehe.

3. Yup planning to just build an island without any cabinet or basin, a place to grab early breakfast and sip coffee in the morning even can be treated as a remote working space. Thanks for giving me an idea what is the day to day usage for the top and bottom cabinet.

Ah odorless paint is nice! Luckily my wife got friend sell Paint also  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Perhaps my biggest concern is getting all the hacking and drilling stuff done first? The rest can slowly buy...
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3. better with storage, if not you will end up with a messy island and dining table. the surface is filled with TNB bills, credit card bills, roti, kaya, biscuit, cup... end up, your wife wont get to use the island since it became the permanent storage for daily stuff. Basically just go to 8 out of 10 typical malaysia house and look at their island and dining table you will understand.

Yes, wetwork first. But plan ahead to know if you need piping change, say for laundry / shifting water basin position, etc. These kinda piping might affect your wetwork... might la, hard to say what and where you wanna hack and build.

This post has been edited by hungrygodzilla: May 11 2021, 03:09 PM
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post May 14 2021, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(utellme @ May 13 2021, 02:22 AM)
Hi, from your contractor quotation.  Let say I plan to build a new dining room with volume size LxWxH = 20 ft  x 10ft x 10 ft next to my wet kitchen. Assuming the new dining room with brick tile roof, a 2 node of windows HxL =5ft x5ft, 1 door, normal floor tile and skirting , 3 light point, 2 wall fan point, 4 power pint and 1 water basin. May I know roughlg how much that will cost me.
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Sorry, this is beyond my scope of knowledge.
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post May 17 2021, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(jeffboon97 @ May 17 2021, 03:44 PM)
Also, is power track system like Eubiq, Zenso is more cost effective than hacking and looping? Because my kitchen only have 3 sockets...
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Nope. Way cheaper to do the traditional way, even if you use universal socket also way way way way way cheaper.

 

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