I was wondering why was the language name changed from Bahasa Malaysia to Bahasa Melayu? Some of you guys who took SPM in the '90s and early 2000s sat for the Bahasa Malaysia paper. What was the reason for the name change?

because maruah

U don't lie

Taking STPM n it was Bahasa Malaysia

I thought it was Bahasa Melayu then to Bahasa Malaysia?

I dunno what the official stance is, but I've always used both names for the language interchangeably. It's the language of the Malay people, and it's the national language of our country.

Bahasa Melayu
----> Bahasa (Melayu) Malaysia
----> Bahasa (Melayu) Indonesia
----> Bahasa (Melayu) Brunei

Bahasa Melayu is the mother set. Regional variants are subset.

This post has been edited by ukapaka: Apr 25 2021, 02:37 PM

watever la...u use it to buy nasi lemak je

unker, name changed already la https://www.mpm.edu.my/en/stpm/stpm-syllabus

and many do not realize it's "i have the numbers" that was education minister that time of the change

pretty sure it is still known as Bahasa Malaysia

whichever you like, same meaning anyway

i read somewhere its like american, australian, etc speaks the english language

not american, australian etc language


i could be wrong of the reasons tho

last time my cikgu explained, got 2 competing schools of thought

1 is emphasis melayu because race

1 is emphasis malaysia because national language

depends what is going on in the political brains at the top... how best to racing leh? show off the name? or show off the 1st-class status?

Lol, why is this even a problem? Everyone know b melayu = b malaysia.

Bahasa jiwa bangsa, they said.

Bangsa Malaysia doesn't exist, so Bahasa Malaysia doesn't exist.

I think..

And also political sentiment on racial superiority plays a role too.

This post has been edited by lucifer_666: Apr 25 2021, 02:47 PM

racist tu kanser,
tapi tak mau rawat,

Tanya Anwar la..

This was the case.

Both are correct since Bahasa Melayu is the national language of Malaysia, which makes it also Bahasa Malaysia. Similar to how Mandarin is often called Chinese because it is the primary dialect of China. Or how American English is sometimes just referred to as American.

Really? I have never heard of anyone asking "do you speak American?"

For me, dont talk in language pipu in malaysia no understand la. See your audience and think which language shud use.

Example : arabic use in malaysia ?

+1.

I had heard enough of this shit since primary until secondary school: nak memperkuasakan and memartabatkan bahasa malaysia supaya dia akan menjadi bahasa nombor 1 di seluruh dunia, mengalahkan bahasa inggeris.

Come to think back of it, just how foolish and childish those teachers are. Cukur ayam didnt end up bodo like them.

Du yu spik sinki ?

dunno why they changed it

back in 70s still using bahasa malaysia







This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Apr 25 2021, 02:49 PM

People learn languages for two reasons:
1) Practical use - Need to use it for business reasons, need to talk to relatives, wife, everyone around them only speaks the language etc.
2) Personal interest - I see many people here like Japanese culture a lot, which is the reason why so many rajin rajin learn Japanese even though the language is hard

To become the number one language of the planet, your country must be a superpower nation that can exert cultural influence over everyone else. The British Empire and USA can do that, which is English is the most widely-spoken language everywhere.

By the way, the reason why Dutch wasn't so widely spoken in Indonesia was because the Dutch had this policy of not teaching Dutch to the locals. The Dutch themselves learnt Bahasa Indonesia as the lingua franca throughout Indonesia while they spoke Dutch among themselves. They decided to follow the British and start the policy of teaching everyone Dutch once World War 2 was over, but then it was too late.

not everyone

It was changed by a staunch pejuang Melayu and pejuang Arab back in 1986 when he was the EM. Probably to “memartabatkan bangsa Melayu dan agama Islam (a.k.a Arabization).

One of the main reason I hate him because his introduction to Arabization was the key thing that deter non muslims from enrolling to SK.

Moving from a multi-racial dominant mentality to a mono-racial dominant mentality.
It the goal of madey & he achieved it so quietly, hardly anyone noticed or even questioned it.

This makes me think of:

Our govt policy is every 10-20 years change BM name from Bahasa Melayu to Bahasa Malaysia and vice versa.

Same policy for education, change science and maths from English to BM and vice versa.

This shows you did something so no need do so much to improve education in the country.

Bahasa Malaysia is more inclusive n better

The irony is that today most of the original Malay words we learnt in school has been replaced with English-ciplaked words by changing the spelling of English words to make it "Malaynized". And that becomes "bahasa melayu".

And thus MILO stick pack in English became MILO Stikpek.


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But it sounds too "liberal" and pokes the eyes of racists and bigots.

i tot it was Melayu > Malaysia...now Melayu again?

"x-change hanya melalu POS". Mana DBP? Mana protes? I just realize protes also is loanword.

Coz some people don't want to learn it?

Ohwa...

Result of Biro Tata Negara brainwashing.

It is originally Bahasa Melayu as defined in the constitution. Was changed to Bahasa Malaysia due to political reason because certain segment of the population somehow gets triggered with the word Melayu.

you still call it BM

dah lama dah panggil paper Bahasa Melayu

and u want a national language

they dont even want to give it to u

just want to vroom

I've been thinking about this lately. Wanna put BM on my website, but don't know if I should make it Bahasa Melayu or Bahasa Malaysia.

kluster itu bahasa malaysia atau bahasa melayu.. AFAIK, last time we use kumpulan.

The language existed way earlier than the nation state known as Malaysia. It used and developed by Malays since time immemorial.

Imagine referring to Hua yi or Mandarin as Bahasa CCP.

Ohman will gosok gosok, but its just wrong.

Rindu zaman P Ramlee.

Dewan Bahasa





Both can be used

Fact check for TS, it was Bahasa Melayu, then in year 2007, the government decided to change to Bahasa Malaysia. Even though there is a change of name, both terms can still be used.

Because melayu lost maruah to Malaysia, thus butthurt policy to establish status quo.

Dewan Bahasa dan pustaka got register Hua-yi as word? Else ohman should register it.

But bahasa Malaysia official and bahasa Melayu spoken has stray quite far from each other. Better to acknowledge bahasa Melayu spoken as an actual language than just called it "bahasa rempit"

Isn't it better to go separate ways like indon. They got bahasaya Indonesia and bahasa Melayu Sumatera.

use Bahasa Malaysia since this country called Malaysia, anyway both still same meaning.

Because many puak mudah keliru and worry oversea ppl thought mandarin or other language is our national language.

Last time Malaysia are smart and united .. Nowadays so many bodo bodo ppl claim their heritage, religion and race thus change as title.

Bahasa China or Bahasa Mandarin?
Bahasa India or Bahasa Urdu?
Bahasa Singapore ada?

This post has been edited by sdin3269: Apr 25 2021, 03:49 PM

Apa lanjiao

Malaysian Chinese already refer 国语 (national language) as Malay
Whereas other overseas Chinese refer 国语 as Mandarin

Put Malay as national language tak boleh, put as race language also need to vroom

Ayam get A

I dunno, because i only use bahasa America

no issue

u overthink
melayu = malaysia

You haven't met many US citizens then.

This post has been edited by LamboSama: Apr 25 2021, 04:03 PM

BM have been roundabouting from Bahasa Melayu to Bahasa Malaysia and back to Bahasa Melayu for the last 30 years.
If you still doesn't think it's political influence on education, I don't know what can make you wake up.

Bahasa Malaysia is very confusing. Sometimes I confuse it with English. And after learning it in school, on social media, I totally can't understand malay speak online.

I think it’s the other way round.

I remember my SPM paper in late 90s, it was called Bahasa Melayu.

suka hati dia orang la ... no big deal.

Anwar change it back to Bahasa Melayu.

yes the madey / anwar combo.
Fittingly they are at each other's throats ever since

Yes Anwar changed it to Bahasa Melayu back in 1986

But Gomen changed it back to Bahasa Malaysia in 2007



2015 text book

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but who changed it to Bahasa Melayu back now?



This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Apr 25 2021, 04:24 PM

Sometimes regret jadi pandai also

Coz jadi bodo can guarantee you get a job with yearly guaranteed increment, bonus and as well as pension scheme

Fcuk y n who changed

Dafuq racist faggot...

Yes. The latest change was unannounced. I only realized it was changed back to bahasa melayu when I saw my son’s text book.

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Afaik, the 1957 Federal Constitution of Malaya(Malaysia = 1963) was drafted by the British Colonial Rulers in English and it states that the Malay language is the official language of the Federation of Malaya/Malaysia, not other languages. Nevertheles the other languages can be freely practised by Malaysian citizens. Also Islam is the official religion of Malaya/Malaysia, nevertheless other religions can be freely practised by the non-Malay citizens.

When translated, Bahasa Melayu is the official language of Malaysia since 1963. IOW, Bahasa Melayu is the Bahasa Malaysia, not Bahasa Inggeris, Bahasa Cina/Mandarin, Bahasa India/Tamil, Bahasa Kadazan, Bahasa Bidayuh, etc.

So, according to the Federal Constitution of Malaysia/Perlembagaan Persekutuan Malaysia, Bahasa Melayu = Bahasa Malaysia and Bahasa Malaysia = Bahasa Melayu. This is interchangeability and has nothing to do with Ketuanan Melayu or racism by Malays.

Is the name "MALAYsia" also an indication of Ketuanan Melayu or Malay racism.?
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Apr 25 2021, 04:56 PM

from what I googled

2015



2016



2017






so they changed it again on 2017 unannounced?

so much flip flop. and they keep asking why dont want to send to sekolah kebangsaan?

This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Apr 25 2021, 04:45 PM

more like Malay-shire

maybe because even name bahasa Malaysia, no all Malaysia citizen can't understand melayu language, that why their change

Sometimes even makcik nasi lemak oso speaking

Ayam used it to tok with bangala jer mostly

This post has been edited by Ayambetul: Apr 25 2021, 04:55 PM

that called brain wash

Still superior than ching chong then.
Cause never use it even once in my life.

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Russia = Rus-shire.?

Tunisia = Tuni-shire.?

Asia = A-shire.?

= former British colonies.?
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2017. So it was Mahdzir Khalid.

There's nothing racial about calling bahasa Melayu, bahasa Melayu like nothing is racial when calling English, English. It's a classification that's all.

yup. people should start to learn that the language and the people are two separate entities.