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post Feb 14 2023, 09:55 PM

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Futu HK now allows 24-hour US stock trading. They claim to be the "only one" in HK to offer this service.

https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...%99%82%e6%ae%b5

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post Mar 3 2023, 11:52 AM

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post Mar 28 2023, 07:04 PM

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Futu results: https://ir.futuholdings.com/static-files/1b...e3-426fc9f0c6e6

香港明报 reports: https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...%b4%e5%a2%9e7-6
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post May 17 2023, 11:08 AM

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Futu Moomoo is coming to Malaysia!

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/moomoo-expan...-113600184.html

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But the app is now taken down from app stores in mainland China (HK operation unaffected).

https://ir.futuholdings.com/news-releases/n...hina-app-stores

https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/daily/20230...88%b8%e6%8f%929
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post May 17 2023, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(Super2047 @ May 17 2023, 02:43 PM)
So now we can use moomoo to buy Malaysia stocks?
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No idea about that. There's not even an announcement on their official website about their receival of AIP for a CMSL license from SC Malaysia.

https://futuholdings.com/en-us/news

https://ir.futuholdings.com/
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post Aug 4 2023, 07:21 PM

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Moomoo is entering Canada!

香港明报 reports: https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...%94%a8%e6%88%b6
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post Aug 25 2023, 12:55 PM

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Futu Announces Second Quarter 2023 Unaudited Financial Results

https://ir.futuholdings.com/static-files/be...42-366b0e901561

香港明报 reports: https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...d%a4%e5%a2%9e73
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post Nov 23 2023, 09:10 PM

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Futu 3Q 23 results: https://ir.futuholdings.com/static-files/06...65-672f3babdab9

香港明报 reports: https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...%84%84%e5%85%83
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post Dec 15 2023, 08:36 PM

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Moomoo HK now waives the minimum 30 HKD dividend collection fee and replaces it with a uniform 0.2% fee on total cash dividend amount. However, you are still subject to a minimum of HK$30 if the total cash dividend amount minus the registration and transfer fee is greater than HK$60

See 3.3 Others "Dividend Collection Fees" section: https://www.futuhk.com/en/support/topic2_335?

香港明报 reports:

https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...%b2%bb%e7%94%a8
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post Feb 27 2024, 04:51 PM

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Moomoo arrived at Malaysia!

https://www.sinchew.com.my/news/20240227/finance/5423523

https://www.moomoo.com/my

Platform fee is 1 USD per order, plus a bunch of other charges, still more expensive compared to IBKR. tongue.gif

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post Feb 27 2024, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 27 2024, 05:06 PM)
Still cheaper than rakuten, FSM, mplus and other brokerage in Malaysia.
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Yea would be good for those who wish not to invest from overseas brokerage.

Only question is how's the FX rate to convert from MYR to USD...
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post May 3 2024, 02:56 PM

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Not sure Moomoo is already encouraging you to trade by gamifying the app, but it's getting dangerously close.

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The lesson of Loki? Trade less
Going back as far as the Norse gods, the market has tricked investors into making rash decisions

by Tim Harford (3 HOURS AGO)

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The pages of the Financial Times are not usually a place for legends about ancient gods, but perhaps I can be indulged in sharing one with a lesson to teach us all.

More than a century ago, Odin, All-father, greatest of the Norse gods, went to his wayward fellow god Loki, and put him in charge of the stock market. Odin told Loki that he could do whatever he wanted, on condition that across each and every 30-year period, he ensured that the market would offer average annual returns between 7 and 11 per cent. If he flouted this rule, Odin would tie Loki under a serpent whose fangs would drip poison into Loki’s eyes from now until Ragnarök.

Loki is notoriously malevolent, and no doubt would love to take the wealth of retail investors and set it on fire, if he could. But when faced with such a — shall we say binding? — constraint, what damage could he really do?

He could do plenty, says Andrew Hallam, author of Balance and other books about personal finance. Hallam uses the image of Loki as the malicious master of the market to warn us all against squandering the bounties of equity markets.

All Loki would have to do is ensure the market zigged and zagged around unpredictably. Sometimes it would deliver apparently endless bull runs. At other times it would plunge without mercy. It might alternate mini-booms and mini-crashes; it might trade sideways; it might repeat old patterns, or it might do something that seemed quite new. At every moment, the aim would be to trick investors into doing something rash.

None of that would deliver Loki’s goals if we humans weren’t so easy to fool. But we are. You can see the damage in numbers published by the investment research company Morningstar; last year it found a shortfall in annual returns of 1.7 percentage points between what investors make and the performance delivered by the funds in which they invested.

There is nothing strange about investors making a different return from the funds in which they invest. Fund returns are calculated on the basis of a lump-sum buy-and-hold investment. But even the most sober and sensible retail investor is likely to make regular payments, month by month or year by year. As a result, their returns will be different, maybe better and maybe worse.

Somehow, it’s always worse. The gap of 1.7 percentage points a year is huge over the course of a 30-year investment horizon. A 7.2 per cent annual return will multiply your money eightfold over 30 years, but subtract the performance shortfall and you get 5.5 per cent a year, or less than a fivefold return in 30 years.

Why does this happen? The primary reason is that Loki’s mischievous gyrations tempt us to buy when the market is booming and to sell when it’s in a slump. Ilia Dichev, an economist at Emory University, found in a 2007 study that retail investors tended to pile into markets when stocks were doing well, and to sell up when they were languishing. (Without wishing to burden the long-suffering reader with technical details, it turns out that buying high and selling low is a bad investment strategy.)

One possible explanation for this behaviour is that investors are deeply influenced by what they’ve seen the stock market doing across their lives so far. The economists Ulrike Malmendier and Stefan Nagel have found that the lower the returns investors have personally witnessed, the less they are likely to put in the stock market. This means that bear markets scare investors away from their biggest buying opportunities.

Another study, by Brad Barber and Terrance Odean, looked at retail investors in the early 1990s, and found that they traded far too often. Active traders underperformed by more than 6 percentage points annually. Slumbering investors saw a much better performance. The sticker price of making a trade has plummeted since then, of course. Alas, the cost of making a badly timed trade is as high as ever.

Morningstar found that the gap between investment and investor returns is largest for more specialist investments such as sector equity funds or non-traditional equity funds. The gap is smaller for plain vanilla equity and smaller still for allocation funds, which hold a blend of stocks and bonds and automate away investor choices. That suggests that the investors who are trying to be clever are the most likely to fall short, while those who make the fewest possible decisions will lose out by the smallest amount.

I am always hearing that people should be more engaged with investing, and up to a point that is true. People who feel ignorant about how equity investing works and therefore stick their money in a bank account or under a mattress, are avoiding only modest risks and giving up huge potential returns.

But you can have too much of a good thing. Twitchily checking and rearranging your portfolio is a great way to get sucked into poorly timed trades. The irony is that the new generation of investment apps work the same way as almost any other app on your phone: they need your attention and have plenty of ways to get it.

Recent research by the Behavioural Insight Team, commissioned by regulators in Ontario, found that gamified apps — offering unpredictable rewards, leader boards and badges for activity — simply encouraged investors to trade more often. Perhaps Loki was involved in the app development process?

I’ve called this the Investor’s Tragedy. The more attention we pay to our investments, the more we trade, and the cleverer we try to be, the less we will have at the end of it all.
https://www.ft.com/content/77698939-0131-41...4d-a89570a8540e

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post Jul 4 2024, 09:04 PM

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Futu launches universal account in HK, not sure if this is available in Malaysia though: https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...%9c%8d%e5%8b%99
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post Aug 7 2024, 10:12 AM

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Updates from Moomoo Hong Kong:

https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/daily/20240...%99%a7%e6%90%8d

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富途回應查詢表示,對上游供應商Blue Ocean夜盤交易系統故障為用戶帶來的不便,以及不良體驗深感抱歉,對於今次事件高度重視,立即展開調查及了解事故原因。


They "will investigate and try to understand the reason behind this incident".

lol probably kick the ball back to Blue Ocean...

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post Sep 10 2024, 09:28 PM

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Moomoo has physical shops in HK: https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...%96%80%e5%ba%97

Wondering when they will set up physical shop in Malaysia...
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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Sep 17 2024, 10:08 AM)
terriblyrawtea

  • if you buy USA etf & hold for 10 years & don't plan to sell covered calls to earn extra "dividend" - pick Moomoo
  • if you intend to buy LSE etfs - pick IBKR
  • if you intend to buy USA etfs and sell covered calls - pick IBKR

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For the first option, you mean Moomoo SG or Moomoo MY?

It's cheaper because... the fees are cheaper (I believe platform fee is 1 USD right? and funding wise Moomoo will earn from the FX spread as well if you convert from MYR to USD, no?)
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post Sep 27 2024, 02:51 PM

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Tencent sold down part of its stake in Moomoo to capitalize on the recent market exuberance.

https://finance.mingpao.com/fin/instantf/20...%be%8e%e5%85%83
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Finally!

Bloomberg Technology: Chinese Broker Futu Cuts 5% of Staff as Global Expansion Slows

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/202...d=homepage-asia

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China’s online brokerage Futu Holdings Ltd. is reducing its headcount by about 5% as it reassesses the firm’s strategy to expand globally.

Responding to social media posts over large scale layoffs, the Tencent Holdings Ltd.-backed firm said it has “recently made adjustments to its organizational structure.”

“These adjustments include adding new roles as well as cutting certain existing positions for optimization,” Futu said in a statement. “The changes represent approximately 5% of the company’s total workforce, and are part of our business evolution.”

Earlier this week, Futu’s management flagged that it had passed the “rapid expansion phase” in new markets, with no imminent plans to venture into more markets next year. The company’s costs are rising faster than its revenue.

Futu has added staff over the past few years even after Chinese authorities lashed out at online brokers in 2021 and curtailed their efforts to target Chinese investors with cross-border equity trading.

“Overall from a headcount perspective, I think we’ll be relatively disciplined next year,” Daniel Yuan, chief of staff and head of investor relations, said during a call with analysts after its third-quarter results.

Under regulatory scrutiny, Futu and Up Fintech Holding Ltd. pushed to seek growth in global markets instead. Futu Chief Financial Officer Arthur Chen said in a 2022 interview that the firm’s key strategy in the following two to three years would be internationalization.

While that’s helped Futu to power its growth in overseas markets including Singapore and Hong Kong, costs had crept up. Its total number of paying clients increased 33% on year in the past quarter, and total costs jumped 43%. Over 50% of Futu’s selling and marketing expense was fixed and salary-related, according to Yuan.

Rival Up Fintech, also known as Tiger Brokers, had a major layoff round in early 2022. Futu’s headcount had grown 39% from late 2021 to more than 3,200 employees at the end of last year, compared with about 1,100 at Tiger Brokers.


No more cash to burn... tongue.gif

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