it will be stretch according to scale, or you can play it @ 1:1 and u will have surrounding black bars. Man I need to pick up another 241 for dual monitor this is the best lcd out there hehe

more importantly...why would u wanna run the ps3 @ 720p? I've always have mine @ 1080p

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Aug 31 2007, 10:48 PM

yes, if there's no black bars, your monitor stretched it to 16:10. whether you can tell it is stretch or not is totally depending on you, not everybody can detect 200 pixels different in vertical width without comparing them side by side with a 16:9 screen.

What will it look like? it will look like 1080p @ 16:9 with black bars on top and bottom. The benq 241 is the best monitor, u wont go wrong with it. No dead pixels, no banding, awesome colors. I sold my 42" 1080p lcd to replace it with this benq simply because I have never seen an lcd TV that doesnt have banding issues. I was waiting for 1080p plasma to be out. Panasonic now has 1080p plasma, and I'm so getting the 50" 1080p viera when I settle down

one thing i should mention is that, oddly, when my wii is set to widescreen @ 420p, the bars are at the side...I suspect the wii is not really 16:9 @ wide screen. lol

I bought my benq as soon as the AR firmware fix was out, that was around RM2800, the monitor can now be bought for <rm2500 here in Canada.

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 1 2007, 12:36 PM

If it used the correct AR, it will be 16:9 scaled to larger resolution when being fed with lower than the monitor's native resolution. You will still see black bars because monitors are 16:10 while the input is 16:9. If you don't see black bars, it has been stretched, end of story.

I believe you are using the latest revision? IIRC it is A04 that they started introducing AR fix on the 2407. They just launched A04 when the benq's AR units were out. The market was still flooded with crippled A03 2407 back then.

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 1 2007, 12:56 PM

mind you, I've given all the info and explained everything there is to AR and scaling, hence end of story. If you wanna believe that your 16:10 screen is doing 16:9 @ full screen without black bars, then so be it.

oh btw, my screen is not stretched, there are black bars on top and bottom of the screen when feeding it with 16:9, and full screen when I run it at 16:10, 1900 X 1200 res on my pc.

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 1 2007, 01:04 PM

in post #11, you said that your screen is CERTAINLY not stretched despite NOT having black bars, you are implying that your screen is doing 16:9 without black bars on a 16:10 screen, and this is simply impossible. I'm not the only one who's been saying that w/o 1:1 AR setting, the screen is stretched if you don't see black bars when feeding it with a 16:9 signal. If you need pictures of the 16:9 stretched to 16:10, a little google would help.

you made the right choice only 24" monitor, and some 27" can fully utilize 1080p 22" are getting dirt cheap nowadays. Ah well, just like 720p/1080i TVs vs 1080p ones. The damn 1080p viera cost about 2.5X more than a 720p plasma

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 1 2007, 01:21 PM

It's not a question when you affirm something.

yup, the bottom one is stretched. If you cannot see the difference, use a ruler and measure some objects Like i said, it may be very subtle to some people. If it doesn't bother you, then good for you. But that doesn't mean you can live in ignorance and claim that because you can't see the difference, therefore it is not stretched. That's just similar to katak di bawah tempurung (wow damn, my malay still works! ahahaha)

Anyway, nothing personal, just want to make myself clear.

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 1 2007, 01:31 PM

RR7, race so fast....no time to look at whether it is jaggy or not btw, I think the perceived jagginess has something to do with how the game is upscaled...does the ps3 do upscaling? my ps3 is still at 1.32..for you know what haven't been playing it for a while

Problem with dell lcd is that all the earlier models can't do AR/1:1 scale. Which is why I bought the benq at that time. I was gonna grab the 2407 but like i said, they only had A03 back then, and there were lots of problems with that lcd, from banding to not functioning component input.

Btw, it's just scaling that we were talking about, I made a thread on why lcd tv sucks, which summarizes all the problems related to LCD TV, vertical/horizontal banding - most notorious on sharp aquos, mura effect (sony bravia x), back light bleeding, and etc. In short, I can't live with LCD TV, the banding is too much of an eyesore to me. but some people don't see them, especially the more subtle ones haha. Thank god benq and dell still makes some very good panels that's free from banding!

@gmannji
If you can upscale, i dont see why you cant downscale it. Might even realize a better picture too! But the samsung is displaying full screen, it is not doing it at 16:9 (doesn't seem like a problem to you anyway ). Btw, one piece of advice, dont buy samsung, back light bleeding is horrible. Samsung is no longer THE quality brand, benq and dell are the leaders now. Some time ago, when I hear the name Benq and dell stuff...I'd automatically look to samsung/sony, but times are different now. Just like how I detest ipod nano's shoddy build quality.

ok, gonna watch simpsons now, see you guys another time...RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH!

This post has been edited by AlamakLor: Sep 1 2007, 01:55 PM

Don't worry, they will not be blurry, ps3's upscaling is good. And yes, there will be bars on top and bottom, no side bar. If you set the screen to 1:1 Pixel mapping, it will display it at its original resolution, and you will see a black box surrounding it.

Yes, I am aware of the native resolution on pc, they will still look sharp with 720p games on 1080p screen. If it sucks like using different than native resolution on PC, then everybody will be buying few sets of TVs, one for 720p and another 1080p for full HD

Like I said, you wont go wrong with the monitor, in fact, you'd scream in joy shortly after you got it

like others have said, the fp241 has everything except - atsc tuner, speaker, remote.

another thing why the fp241 is better than many screen is because of the quality of the panel. It doesnt have any sort of banding, and this is extremely rare. I wont buy an LCD TV unless it is dirt cheap or it is free from banding, which I haven't seen any, yet.