QUOTE(TeckPeow @ Sep 2 2007, 07:29 AM)
Go read this
http://sport.scotsman.com/football.cfm?id=1301382007
and this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtm...ufnsheff116.xml
it really happened last season but i didn't see any discussion in the football Lounge.
FPS, Racing, Flight Simulator, Football(what?) are definately out. There are plenty of strategy games that do not require you to build buildings and train armies.
Sacrifice - strategy game but no need to build buildings... just steal enemy souls..
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/sacrif...=result;title;0
Caesar IV - strategy game but no need to gather resources
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/caesar4/index.html
RollerCoaster Tycoon - no harvest no battle but building (yes)
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/roller...coon/index.html
SimCity 4 - no harvest no destroy... just build
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/simcity4/index.html
Wikipedia mentions that ("harvest, build, destroy") are key components for strategy game yet the games i listed above do not have all the strategy game characteristics yet. You see they are still listed as "other strategy games" at gamespot. If you click on the "other strategy games" you will find the games listed above.
http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=ga...owse;category;6
The definition is not always right.
In some way I agreed your point on definition is not always right, especially when people just simply go copy and paste definition from wikipedia and believe what it say is right. Wikipedia can only be used as a reference and not to be used as an exact or layman term, correct answer, as bear in mind that, anyone can contribute to wikipedia. http://sport.scotsman.com/football.cfm?id=1301382007
and this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtm...ufnsheff116.xml
it really happened last season but i didn't see any discussion in the football Lounge.
FPS, Racing, Flight Simulator, Football(what?) are definately out. There are plenty of strategy games that do not require you to build buildings and train armies.
Sacrifice - strategy game but no need to build buildings... just steal enemy souls..
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/sacrif...=result;title;0
Caesar IV - strategy game but no need to gather resources
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/caesar4/index.html
RollerCoaster Tycoon - no harvest no battle but building (yes)
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/roller...coon/index.html
SimCity 4 - no harvest no destroy... just build
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/simcity4/index.html
Wikipedia mentions that ("harvest, build, destroy") are key components for strategy game yet the games i listed above do not have all the strategy game characteristics yet. You see they are still listed as "other strategy games" at gamespot. If you click on the "other strategy games" you will find the games listed above.
http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=ga...owse;category;6
The definition is not always right.
And back to the topic, I seriously doubt what is presented by wikipedia on the definition of Strategy. Harvest, build and destroy ?? Hello ?? We are in 21st century and frankly that definition is only suitable 10 years ago where all RTS game are almost alike but not suitable for strategy games nowadays. Strategy games is in a period of transition right now as every developers out there are trying to make something different. So to me, as long as a particular game involve strategy thinking, resources handling, army formation, building placing, etc etc and involving controlling armies/race as a whole would be categorized as a strategy game.
RPG is more towards to controlling one or more character and most of the time, you are stuck with that character(s) until game over. Dota is similar to Neverwinter Night and/or Baldur's Gate alike so it's definitely a RPG game, hmm... I guess it's not a even consider as a game, it's just a mod.
Oh and btw, Caesar IV, Tycoon series and SimCity series are belongs to Strategy games, but they are categorized into a smaller category of Strategy, Simulation. Sacrifice I'm not too sure as the game been there for quite some time, cant remember exactly how the game looks like.
And may I know, the point of this argument ?? From the way I see it, even if the world sees dota as a strategy game, you still cant change the fact that, it's just a mod.
Sep 2 2007, 08:09 PM

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