i need to do water proofing for my toilet.

Would want to gather some idea how can I DIY it and estimate a budget.

Water proofing expert welcome to give some advise. terima kasih.

Update:

Photo taken by unit below. Pipe leaking or floor?






Update 2:

Base on /k suggestion, I try to source for sika. At the end, the seller recommend me this.



Solvent based. I sudah sapu the grout on floor and wall. Going to observe the result.

This post has been edited by mick84: Apr 18 2021, 10:38 AM

no hacking can not solve.

https://shopee.com.my/product/77659802/6352...21-1618193812.9

I used Sika 107 for my toilet waterproofing.
At least 2 coats. 3 coats will be better.
Apply the waterproofing to around 3 ft from the floor.
Shower area apply to 6 ft from the floor.

normally will apply bitumen to floor+1' up the walls b4 tiling

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This post has been edited by ihm11: Apr 12 2021, 10:31 AM

Was recommended to do epoxy coating as a cheapest and no hacking solution previously. You may explore it

so.....you plan to hack all the tiles.

then water proof

then cement

then tile back up?

then have a place to discard all the broken tiles

normal office workers dont have the endurance nor strength to do hard labor work.

good luck.

I used epoxy + glass flake combo.
Very easy to diy.
You have choice to maintain color of your existing floor tile by using clear epoxy.
Or change the color completely to your choice.
Did the coating for 3 layers and still good until now for more than 8 years already.
Spent around 1K total for 2 bathrooms (decent size bathroom)
Another pro is that it took total around 48 hours to fully cured for the whole 3 coatings.

Thanks. will explore this method.

this would be the last option to consider. Epoxy method sound good. gonna explore that

Epoxy is ok only if its leaking thru the tiles.
If other leak root cause (from pipe in wall) it will not resolve the issue.

this method just buy epoxy and paint it over ur tiles?

sendiri buat ka? glass flake? wow. high specs.

To do it nicely, better to hire someone familiar doing it or has done it or has seen it done by professional before to learn their tricks of doing it.
But for a nstural handyman, a youtube learning can also help to build confidence for DIY project.
Not realy high specs, a standard specs I suppose in order to create anti slip feel of the surface. The flakes will make the texture a bit rougher once you spread over the epoxy after 2 layer.
3rd layer is just to make the glass flake covered properly.

Can give example photos of glass epoxy?

If nice I also want to do it

DIY after tenant move out

filler from mr DIY less than rm10

&

epoxy paint rm373







used 2L for 2layer

This post has been edited by croydon: Apr 12 2021, 11:01 AM

Sorry for asking, but what do these things do?

prevent leaking. most given suggestions are prevent leaking from floor.

So that the water from your bathroom usage wouldn't leak to lower floor.

Glass flakes are sold separately.
You can buy from lazada or shoppee.
I bought from AE Multicoat (company).
The flake is spread over the epoxy coating while curing and evenly spread using brush to ensure smooth spread.
Dont hesitate to use generously as the texture is really worth it.
I do not have picture of it since it was 8 years back.
Anyway, try google it and you will find some good examples.

The proper way is to do the below;

1) Solid waterproof membrane across all and up the wall edge (or you can a shower base)
2) Liquid waterproof membrane to seal the wall before cementing tiles/grout
3) PU waterproof sealant to seal joints and so on, Sika is pretty good for this

For bathroom waterproofing in condos, is it really necessary to do a water ponding test and to go below (neighbour's place) to ask whether he has any damp spots on his ceiling? Is this standard procedure?

after see this am motivated to restore all my baths . as they look dull now.

just to clarify
1. filler is to patch up the holes ,,..etc..

then clean up the bath surfaces

2. Apply nippon tile primer . 1 coat

3. Apply nippon EA4 / choice of color . 2 to 3 coats .

done.

is this the correct process. ?

Any thing else i miss or can add for better finish ?

Any advise from the experts.. open to hear your experiences.. .
thanks

correct, but becareful... epoxy paint got toxic fumes during painting.. wear respiratory mask & have a good airflow. toilet is a small space with bad airflow

in this case, i add fan during painting.... got sick last time with seamaster epoxy paint (rm150 5L, 1L hardener)



last time using seamaster epoxy with special roller for epoxy, this time forgot to buy special roller for epoxy... finishing not so smooth



This post has been edited by croydon: Apr 12 2021, 02:31 PM

About the final epoxy finish .. will it be slippery with this when the floor is wet.
TQ.

Two methods as other have said,

1st menthod well documented here; is to paint epoxy on the floor/walls

2nd is hacking. We found out our toilets in 2nd floor were leaking. Went with hacking. Cost like 3k+
Had to drive to Melaka for the tiles as the old ones were shattered in the process.

We did this because we really dislike the look/feel of epoxy especially in the bathroom. Feels like a hospital and kinda too slippery. The tiles we choose have a rough surface.

No budget, go diy. But there's probably clear epoxy if you want to preserve the look of your old tiles, just the surface will be different though

Keep on sharing all your results and steps guys! Inspired but definitely will hire ppl to do it

kinda slippery for the 1st time

wow so nice. my toilet also leaking. got water stain at house below.( apartment)
ask contractor. he said should be floor since the pipe is not under the floor.
and the hole for water trap is higher than floor.( so might need hack the floor so its will be lower nicely) so water get stuck. endup floor leaking and water go under.

solution; need hack the tiles and put waterproofing and tiles it again.

can i use this epoxy as well? because when i ask them to use epoxy, he said will not last longer also.

Good thread.
Contractor charging me Rm600+ per toilet. Will ask him what kind of water proofing he is doing

Keep us update on this. 👍🏻

educational thread. need saved button

This one gooding?

https://shopee.com.my/1-set-DIY-Epoxy-Flake...3565.3245829595

This one looks like what I had 8 years ago.
In terms of brand, probably different.
But the mix and flakes are typical.
Like I mentioned before, still good condition after 8 years (in my case)

dunno, never have any experience with flake..

got quotation 1k from fb to paint 1toilet like this.... epoxy flake coating, thats why i'm learn from youtube and DIY

https://www.multiepoxy.my/v1/index.php/perk...r-flake-coating

Great info on solving waterproofing / leaking toilet

Saving this up !

Thanks !

Good post

https://www.facebook.com/439113389524482/po...3964737729/?d=n

Coincident my fren share this in FB. Whole house epoxy !!!

Hi guys, updated with photos taken by my unit below.

I was quoted to hack the whole floor to repair. Betul ke?

Does it look like pipe leaking or flooring problem ?

Expxy flake coating. Cheap and easy. Looks nice, not slippery.

I did for mine also.

looks like outlet of sink.

check the floor there for any gaps.

just use this one cheaper,
spray the whole area only

SOS KICAP

not bad, looks nicer than raw cement color

is it? i also thinking so. may need to check the gasket / seal in between.

wow. this macam yes. try before?

above is a toilet floor ?

then you also need to seal the tiles grout and the floor water pipe outlet top /sides.. water can leak off here.

below can do that .

https://shopee.com.my/Sika%C2%AE-Sikagard-7...1301.5410310649

no. check the part where the pipe goes to floor

that pipe is uncut . from top / floor level to the angle join below .

there is no gasket/ seal in between .

my guess .. that leak is a floor leak . the grout between the pipe and toilet floor .or immediate surround ..there is a square plastic top .

there is no way to check this .
so just apply the sealant at all the grout and area around the pipe at the floor .


This post has been edited by Momo33: Apr 16 2021, 12:45 PM

roger that. so i need to apply sealant to close the gap between floor n the pipe / floor trap. gonna to try this first.

I also facing the problems like you. But my problem is the pipe connecting to upper condo unit toilet bowl. I also headache don't know how want to solve. Already complaint to management

hahaha. now im thinking, are you staying below my unit? haha. cos pictures are front the unit below, complaining leaking from my unit.

The water proofing is supposedly done above floor where water leak from. Not your floor OR trying to do sohai method of waterproofing your ceiling from bottom.


This post has been edited by Syie9^_^: Apr 16 2021, 02:03 PM

i'm the unit above. my unit leak water to the unit below.

Ok. then all you need to do just hack all the tiles, water proof it then with importance to drainage outlet.

the rest just peanut.

Also I just noticed the yellow pipe flange, that suppose be at your unit not below the slab.

This post has been edited by Syie9^_^: Apr 16 2021, 02:12 PM

i guess i will try seal the grout first. if really not working, then no choice but to proceed with hacking / epoxy.

yellow pipe flange is at my unit. correct.

All waterproofing must do from the top.

If it is the roof tile, then do it on top of the roof tile. If it is a concrete slab, it must do on top of the slab.

For DYI cement, you can purchase premix water proof cement to fill the gap. Clean the gap. Then pour dry cement powder into the gap, use a brush to compact it as much as you can, remove the excess powder and hair spray water to wet the powder.

you need a small brush to apply the sika sealant. if dont have .. an old tooth brush that have a sharper front edge is fine.
apply to every grout within 3 feet diameter, the cement joint s around the square plastic top surrounding the pipe. and every cement/ joint you see.
plus the wall/ floor edge surrounding the outlet.

wait to dry in 1 hour ... reapply the second coat . i am sure this will fix the problem. i had similar case.

if still leak ...do again... and apply to the whole toilet floor grout areas and all the wall/ floor edges.

i have even seen water leak out of the concrete beam in the room next to the toilet . due to a toilet floor leak.


after 6 months / or when necessary you need to apply again to restore the water proof.
that 1 liter bottle can last many years
do feedback the results.

This post has been edited by Momo33: Apr 16 2021, 02:52 PM

Thanks bro. Using this right? Will give a try.

https://shopee.com.my/Sika%C2%AE-Sikagard-7...1301.5410310649

this settled

yes..

We hacked the toilet because of this

my building management also suggest me to do so. but somehow it just a specific area that leak.
i will start with the budget way first.

Tered updated.

Bought a solvent based sealer to sapu all the grout on wall and floor. Going to observe the result.

Price : rm40 for 1/2 liter.

Instruction:

dry floor. Consider to use hair dryer to heat up the floor.
Sapu 1st layer.
Another 1 hour +, sapu another layer.
Leave it for 5-6 hours or overnight.

Clear?

Ya. Clear type. After sapu won’t see anything

Just don't wash it with harsh chems/gosok to hard after this. Probably won't last as long as epoxy

Ts, ur experiment successful or not?

Consider successful. so far no more complain from the unit below.
Hope it can last long... give a try.

May I ask what brand you used?

2 weeks ago i bought 5L Nippon e4 epoxy paint , tile primer , roller brush, paint pan , silica sand . total cost 306 RM . shopee seller.
DIY my 3 toilet . and kitchen table top and back wash area.
Am pleased with the result .

easy to clean the toilet now. just fast mop dry
new clean bright look .

is a better cheaper solution for water proof your toilet and will last 10 year or more compared to hacking.
highly recommend way to waterproof your toilet water leak issues due to old age or poor built.

guys, my toilet hv same issue. leaking in some area and causing my below unit neighbor to bising2 due to water leaking.
i suspect the leaking due to old ages, the tiles at the edge of the corner got some free gaps, which cause the water leak thru there. and also my toilet floor is not totally flat. got some area which cause water to flood lil bit.

using epoxy flakes for toilet, should solve this issue ?

It will solve the water leakage but probably not the water ponding issue.

ys am certain epoxy coat will solve your water leak problem .

the epoxy coat is heavy duty and waterproof and will seal all small gaps .
in short you are building a layer of epoxy over the surface .

i not sure how to solve your flat/level issue .
but i will try this
mark that area out and apply a thicker layer of epoxy over it.

you need at least 2 coats .
allow first coat to dry/cure in 24 hours before recoat.

if just the outlet,.. no need to waterproof the whole floor,..

outlet is very common leakage,.. just open the trap,.. and water proof the side cement,..

Expxy flake coating slippery or not if the floor wet?
tiles quito slippery when got water ..

another how to cover the drain hole area with flake coating ?
thanks ..

i have been using my toilet for a week . ( after 1st coat/ was busy to do the 2nd coat, plus i want the coat to cure longer) seems OK .
i did not feel the slip. taking normal short steps around.
maybe my feet bottom is like sandpaper

since i did buy the silica sand .. i did it with the second/last coat.

flakes too will make it non slip .

thanks. i also thinking the say way. mybe thicker layer will solve floor level not flat and water ponding issue. just need careful to make sure the floor is slight curve to the water hole, so the water easily drain.
then need to ask those epoxy guys if they hv done this before. cant do it myself because got tenant.

Any pics?

Silica sand will make less slippery

Silica sand for what ya bro? The Nippon epoxy just paint over the tiles? Is it clear paint? But as I understand, hacking and waterproofing will last even longer, provided the contractor does it the right way and not skimping here and there. lol. Usually waterproofing on concrete slab can last more than 20 years, i suppose. lol.

My home also is affected by leaking. Sigh so much headache. How do you all locate the source of leaks?

This post has been edited by un.deux.trois: May 10 2021, 01:58 PM

Does epoxy paint works for outdoor??

My car porch slab now just cement only... I want to paint it for waterproofing but I dont know what to paint

Yuppp

apartment? check from unit below.

or more professional method, use thermal imaging to detect.

https://www.allthingsflooring.com/2017/06/e...0more%20durable.

PU paint

I used product from AE Multicoat.
Not sure they are still around or not.
This was way back 8-9 years ago.

MultiEpoxySolution

This post has been edited by todak: May 10 2021, 02:40 PM

The problem happens to my side wall next to the toilet. Weird thing is only lower part of the wall 20cm above the floor seems to be affected (paint bubbling). The rest of the wall looks fine.

silica for non skid.

https://shopee.com.my/2kg-Nippon-Floor-Coat...0096.7063850527


first you paint tile primer
next epoxy ... ys ,, just paint use a roller . its color ed . you chose your color .
i am sure this will last more than 10 years.. or more . in 10 years if it leaks again just put a few more coats ...get fresh new look
you are puttin a heavy duty water proof layer. over the tiles and the sides...
it will never crack .

and so easy to DIY .

Maybe water takung inside.

pix after 1st coat .
i will do final touchup during raya .

my house more than 20 years old.

This post has been edited by Momo33: May 10 2021, 04:04 PM


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If takung, kena hack or not. Damn it there goes my money down the drain.