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post Dec 29 2021, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(47100 @ Dec 29 2021, 10:31 PM)
what will be the next best alternative after Versa ?
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Still Versa for quick liquidity just that no bonus upon deposit lay

Go+ next but lower returns after Feb then SA Simple
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post Dec 30 2021, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 29 2021, 11:25 PM)
stated there profit upto 2.46%pa, is that good or not?i am new, actual return i also dont know,
but i think is better than Stashaway lah

Anyway i am here to ask if anyone  ever see their invested amount value dropped significantly few days later.
I expect it to show a steady upwards graph, not  dropping and up back slowly.

I asked Versa about it why i saw my  invested amount as RM585 481.56 on 25.12.2021,
and i  checked it early 29.12.2021 and saw it has dropped to RM585 131.93 ,
(funny now it has gone up a bit)

i dont check every day, just simply  login and was abit annoyed showing me that drop in value.
and they are not explaining it to my satisfaction.

see their reply,  versa just simply showed me that table without  amount on 25.12.21 that i queried.

i wonder if Versa people knows or not what is shown on our Versa Apps.
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Read about price adjustments after payout with adjustment units

2.46% it is only projected based on 2020 while this year the maximum if you lucky it will be 2% but high unlikely will be around 1.95% doh.gif
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post Dec 31 2021, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 31 2021, 02:02 PM)
no overnight interest = No bonus?? betul kah?
I dont think so.

I check my Versa, can see overnight interest  is separate entity from BONUS
Versa RM called me, seems like only overnight interest will stop
1.95% also better than  nothing lah
just parking short term only, waiting to attack SSPNi in Mac 22
high  yield i heard is SCB, but seems quite cumbersome ,tied to  regular topup use its credit cards etc

i use it for liquidity parking, still better  return than my other parking vehicle eUT PMMF....but PMMF same day  can get money
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Overnight interest is a bonus feature not bonus payout which either referral or adjustments added from AHAM doh.gif
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post Jan 2 2022, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Jan 1 2022, 09:05 PM)
How much return do you guys get for complete year 2021?

The fund in Affin Hwang is showing 1.8% only.
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2nd half was bad hence dropped a lot

Put into Frank better than Versa now without overnight interest doh.gif
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post Jan 2 2022, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Jan 2 2022, 03:34 PM)
Is it 1.8% +- in average for the whole year 2021?
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Yes average over the year

1st 6months was higher and then towards Oct returns hence I moved away to put into other funds doh.gif
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post Jan 4 2022, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(dummies @ Jan 4 2022, 10:34 AM)
what other funds you can recommend other than versa? 1.8% is low so i want to move away some of my funds from versa
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I suggest you go find 6mths FD 1st unless you need quick liquidity then go for SA Simple which still gives 2.1% and additional 0.3% bonus
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post Jan 5 2022, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(dummies @ Jan 5 2022, 03:14 PM)
i saw this article at : https://support.versa.com.my/hc/en-us/artic...I-earn-rebates-, it said, if daily return is lower than 2.46, they will make up the different by giving out bonus, how true is this?

If it is true , that means we will get 2.46 return consistently regardless how the AFFIN HWANG ENHANCED DEPOSIT FUND is performing then i won't move out from versa and continue to stay with them.
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Yes it is used to be but not anymore and the bonus is up to AHAM to give out quarterly

You can go ahead and put but their market cap has been depreciating by more than 60% ad it is used to be rm1billion and currently it is only barely rm500 million doh.gif

Time to move on and look for 6mths that gives you at least 2.3% pa
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post Jan 10 2022, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 9 2022, 06:13 PM)
But overnight interest amount is too miniscule as you can see  from examples above.
So how much  it can drag the ROI down??
Overnight interest  cut hardly has any effect as the amount  is very small compared to dividend and bonus.
I  read somewhere Frank return 1.8% only, so is no better right?
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If you know to milk it overnight interest was another 0.2% returns on top of it

Bonus another is 0.16% while payout is the worse it is only 0.1% every fortnight

While Frank pays you 1.8%pa the key is liquidity and access as you can withdraw anytime while Versa is only accessible 24hours after withdrawing before cut off on weekdays while 3 days lag when withdraw during weekend doh.gif

The key to Versa is not for returns but temporary parking while waiting for better opportunities doh.gif
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post Jan 12 2022, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(onepunch369 @ Jan 11 2022, 09:06 PM)
Isn't overnight interest the interest you would've lost because of the deposit processing time? So it isn't actually bonus interest? And at most just 1-2 days of their base interest p.a.?

Genuinely curious lol.
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Overnight is an added interest because of precessing time hence it is actually gain

QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 11 2022, 11:02 PM)
Something wrong you...........very misleading.

overnight interest seems No 1 in your brain,
Number 1 contributor to your ROI at 0.2% ?
How lah ?

See transaction record as proof

tell us how much you managed to milk from overnight interest
Mine only Rm1 - 2 each time i deposit? and paid only once that's it!
Just how much can you collect from that chicken feed ?

Bonus amount at RM50- RM120 , easily 50x  more than  overnight interest.
paid every month! This is less important than  overnight interest?

Payout amount is even bigger at RM200- RM400, easily 100-200x your overnight interest, paid twice a month somemore!
yet you said it is the worst component?

Apa macam lah thinking upside down.............
going for the shillings and dowan the dollars?
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If you look at the payout from 2021 it is not that great in the scheme as you wouldn’t have the access to the money during weekends and 3 days within the deposit period so you’re actually losing out

If you compared to Frank 1.8% the difference negligible with the 0.1% while losing out on liquidity doh.gif
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post Jan 14 2022, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 13 2022, 10:03 PM)
tak bole tahan oredi  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Go ahead and enjoy your minisicule 0.1% when you don’t have access to you’re money 24/7 doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Jan 14 2022, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jan 13 2022, 10:03 PM)
tak bole tahan oredi  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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Go ahead and enjoy your minisicule 0.1% when you don’t have access to you’re money 24/7 doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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post Jan 17 2022, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(5p3ak @ Jan 17 2022, 09:59 AM)
If I require the money on Friday I should withdraw on Wednesday right?
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Thursday before 2.30pm cut off time

QUOTE(rexus @ Jan 17 2022, 12:30 PM)
To be safe, yeah.
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Read on the cut off time as before 2.30pm doh.gif
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post Jan 25 2022, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jan 25 2022, 11:56 AM)
GIVE RM8 cash back. but no upgrade server like that la!!!!

system jam. now should be o.k i just did mine.. SYIOK RM8 story..
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Not 100% guarantee getting rewards and need to wait 60 business days to get it which means by the early next quarter only doh.gif
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post Jan 28 2022, 02:53 AM

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QUOTE(Takudan @ Jan 27 2022, 07:37 PM)
Hmmm how should I take this news as a Versa user? Life goes on, wait and see if there'll be changes to the interest or payout structure? 🤔
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No differences only thing you need pay attention to OPR instead doh.gif
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post Feb 1 2022, 02:49 AM

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QUOTE(jacklsw86 @ Jan 31 2022, 10:30 PM)
Chinese New Year delay I guess. Just opened an account on 28th January and the deposit is still under processing.
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1st deposit will take 3 business today to open account and verified

So by only earliest 4 feb your account will be only and start processing
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post Feb 4 2022, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 3 2022, 01:04 AM)
How's versa latest rate? Thinking of migrating to OCBC frank.
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Getting downhill since q3 2021 with 1.8% for 2021

Wait until BNM raise OPR the next only can get back in

QUOTE(ericlaiys @ Feb 3 2022, 08:42 AM)
higher than frank with every 2 week payout
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Not even higher in fact on par since Q3 2021 doh.gif
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post Feb 4 2022, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(onepunch369 @ Feb 4 2022, 04:50 PM)
I've been receiving rebates from them to match 2-2.1% p.a. returns though?

1.8% is the base but they do provide monthly rebates in order to match their "projected" net returns of 2-2.1%
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Rebates are only given out at a certain level and amount and i5 is up to discretion of Versa to give out and it can be pulled anytime soon doh.gif

Just look at the underlying fund itself already it is already going downhill since the payout amount every fortnight and paying 0.08 units for every 2 weeks
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post Feb 6 2022, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 6 2022, 06:23 PM)
Like that better use frank rather than versa. Better liquidity.
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I already started since Q3 2021 when it was starting going downhill with returns and higher unit price

In fact when it was it starting at 1.1711 returns were great and now at 1.1718 it is going downhill unless OPR rates are starting to hike doh.gif
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post Feb 22 2022, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(jonathan_k222 @ Feb 22 2022, 02:25 PM)
guys so versa , stashaway simple or frank for easy in and out fund ? just don't want to tie up for FD 1 years
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FRANK or known as Flex is instant liquidity while Versa is next business day

Simple forget about because in and out already lose 1 week of interest
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post Feb 22 2022, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(Sheng890624 @ Feb 22 2022, 03:21 PM)
But the 3.46% is until end of April right otherwise hit the max of RM1M will end of the event
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Rm1million bonus or end of April whichever come 1st

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