Anyone wonder how public university in malaysia have high ranking as compare to other oversea famous university? Is it really that case? For example base on qs world university ranking, University of malaya ranked 59 is somehow higher than famous University like Brown University, University of Wisconsin Madison, university of Warwick, UT Austin, NTU (Taiwan) and Uwashington. I wonder is it true and should we trust them? Feel free to give your opinion.

Ranking based on journal produce, research are made not about quality of teaching at that university

It's just methodology.

Also, nUS is the highest ranking Asian Uni.... Beating Peking and Jepunis .

How are public university in malaysia conducting more research than famous/prestigious university oversea? I mean they are consider top tier school.

Don’t believe QS. It’s the most rubbish ranking

does it even matter? msian unis top 10, 100... produced msian grads still have many issues

Rank tinggi salah.

Rank rendah lagi salah.

So how laa..

Our uni is top notch. Only RnD and create one in the world like KIT HYSTERIA.

So your logic famous = higher rank?

rasa tercabar.. cannot hentam local uni anymore

if malaysia uni ranked top 10 then i said its fake

rank 59 meh

Conducting more research which doent have impact, probably the thesis will be throw to garbage can in just one years.

High rank nobody trusy, whem low rank said rubbish uni. It’s ok to go with high number of journal and slowly moving towards quality instead of lack of journal

rank 300 baru Kretards happy, or higher than UTAR.. KEK

a lot factor maybe like other facilities

Yupe! Some universities spam their ranking with thesis etc.

And some (if not a lot of) these theses are written by undergraduates who hired ghost writers...

QS Rankings are lousy.

For overall world rankings, I suggest using TIMES.

Don't take rankings too seriously. You cannot convince me that NUS is better than UCLA, UW, UMich and many more. Focus not just on the academic side, but also the alumni network and your social life. Frankly, for undergraduate program, many universities have more or less the same quality despite the big difference in ranking. What's going to set you apart is recognition, networking, etc.

One last thing to note - if you're looking solely at US universities, I highly recommend US News rankings over anything. My undergraduate school USC is far better than many many US schools here, but they're not ranked that well in world rankings if you see TIMES or QS. USC is one of the top tier schools in US and their alumnis. Check out how many award winners have graduated from here. The alumni network is perhaps the best in US (comparable to Harvard?).

But when you see my graduate school Columbia University which is an Ivy League school, it is ranked insanely good in TIMES and QS, but they're not ranked too well in local rankings by US News. In fact, you could check acceptance rate and see that USC has insanely low acceptance rate - lower than many Ivy League schools too.

edit: Oh yes don't forget on subject rankings too. Harvard > CMU but CMU CS >> Harvard CS

This post has been edited by trojandude: Apr 6 2021, 08:51 AM

Then what rank will be believable? 599th? 1,000th?

It's good thing our public unis constantly ranked higher, and it's not just in QS ranking only. UM always ranked among Top 200 from decades ago so does UKM/USM/UPM/UTM which always ranked among Top 500. So this latest ranking is not really surprising at all.

I guess most people who butthurt are the overseas graduates which their unis are not even listed in Top 500 or Top 1000.

This post has been edited by Sagiez: Apr 6 2021, 08:42 AM

Hmm..

I disagree.

uitm mesti toppest uni camtu

Publication. Malaysia go high in rank because of lots of publication.

If you are looking for a course, don't look at university ranking, but course ranking. Similarly, if looking for supervisor, forget ranking. Just some people want to benchmark all uni. Thats all

Frankly I dont know any yr famous universities.

If famous will be rank higher.
I think sunway & uitm will rank higher UM.

Different publication ranks based on different criteria thats all

The most important element is the student. If the student is willing to learn and has good attitude and humility, any decent university will do.

We should be happy that Malaysian university is ranked well.

Life is not about your qualifications

U do realize ranking takes into account the research paper's "impact"?

malaysia universities produce sugar babies that's fosho

University of Malaya were once very reputable until politicians start messing around with education. Once more famous than Singapore university.

I will be a student again if she is there too

bereev

Rank tinggi = MUST BECAUSE THEY CHEATED THE SYSTEM.

Rank rendah = HAHAHA MALAYSIA LAPSAP COUNTRY LAPSAP UNIVERSITY THAT'S WHY

Anyhow also cannot please the people.

This post has been edited by aeonbig: Jun 5 2021, 02:54 PM

ranking je la.. come out work nobody cares where you graduated from. degree level and which major matters the most

Employers only care about the output / result, cannot achieve will still fire, soft skill much more important than CGPA or uni ranking.

Example one of our leaders who went to UK famous universities, would you give high rating on the pandemic handling?

It's a matter of methodology.

I could come up with a methodology placing Malaysia universities in the top 10.

I have noticed some keep publishing the same content/results. Nothing new. It is just quantity over quality. Just a waste of government funds.

QS World University Rankings

Factors:
Academic Reputation
Employer Reputation
Faculty Student Ratio
Citations per Faculty
International Faculty Ratio
International Students Ratio

Malaysian universities in top 200: 5
French universities in top 200: 5

Times higher education

Factors:
Teaching
Research
Citations
Industry Income
International Outlook

Malaysian universities in top 200: 0 (Universiti Malaya 301-350)
French universities in top 200: 5

Last time I applied for UPU, I saw some of my friends willing to take strange courses just to get into Malaysian research universities. This is the most amusing approach I've ever seen. I'm not sure why people are so obsessed with rankings. I see no problem with attending a low-ranking university as long as MQA accredits the course. After all, they squandered their futures to be proud of their studies at prestigious universities. They do something unrelated to their degree after graduating. If they are interested in the degree, they should study until they obtain a Ph.D. before entering academia. That will make more sense.

After all, going to IPTA serves one useful purpose: saving money. Going to a high-ranking IPTA makes sense only if you do well in Pre-U. Otherwise, choose a course rather than a university.

Industry income....no wonder Msia failed in Times ranking.

Ahh QS uses the student perception survey I see..... no wonder so many unheard of uni are in top 200

also... faculty student ratio??? Malaysia hire a lot of lecturer shake leg... get higher spot..

Now u shd know which uni graduates to pick for your new hires

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/studen...kings-explained




and only 2.5% jer.... not the reason why Malaysia failed

I see. At least it impacts 2.5% of the ranking. Ranking can also be affected by this 2.5% if other unis have the same points in other criteria.

Still, looks like Times seems more reliable.

How about unimap?

Well to be fair... it doesn't mean nothing...

a uni is technically better if it is able to show commercial impact of an institution’s research..


otherwise.. their research is all theoretical and contributes ZERO value...

unimap is not bad depending on which course. for microelectronic, they have class 1000 clean room. i think some higher local rank uni also dont have such facility.

How about unisel?

UNISEL is a private university. It is more expensive than public universities, even though it is already considered inexpensive. Due to financial constraints, I will attend public universities rather than private universities.

If you want to study engineering, there are many public universities to choose from, including UTM, USM, UMP, UNIMAP, UTHM, and UTEM.

They are all fine.