QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 3 2021, 12:42 AM)
the funniest thing is ..everyone claims to be han chinese ..but when they take DNA test ...many are not lol
true that Young China ppl want traditional Han clothing back
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Apr 3 2021, 01:08 PM
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chun li attire? considered han?
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practical to today world or not?
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 3 2021, 12:42 AM) the funniest thing is ..everyone claims to be han chinese ..but when they take DNA test ...many are not lol It’s a cultural identity, rather than genetic. Many other tribes and races assimilated into Han Chinese culture over the millieniaSame like malay identity here, doesnt necessarily have genetic requirements Meis liked this post
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 2 2021, 11:58 PM) some of the festivals they still wear traditional clothes just like japang and korean. GO TO CHINESE ONLINE SHOPPING SITES. THERE ARE MANY MODERN STYLES HAN CLOTHES FOR BOTH GENDERS.back for fashion ok what, china preserve their culture quite good for now. their classic instrument also not bad and they incorporated with current trend as well. this guzheng play vocaloid SING is still #1 in PRC when it comes to electo+traditional This post has been edited by Meis: Apr 19 2021, 09:22 AM drloveplenty and Stirmling liked this post
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QUOTE(darkterror15 @ Apr 2 2021, 11:58 PM) some of the festivals they still wear traditional clothes just like japang and korean. back for fashion ok what, china preserve their culture quite good for now. their classic instrument also not bad and they incorporated with current trend as well. this guzheng play vocaloid |
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QUOTE(sk1l @ Apr 3 2021, 12:42 AM) the funniest thing is ..everyone claims to be han chinese ..but when they take DNA test ...many are not lol This is a fallacy. Han is ethno-ethnicity aka race above race. Han is bound by "Y-chromosome haplogroup O2-M122", a common DNA marker in Han Chinese.If u do not understand, just put it this way: Our full genetic is 100% or 1 full pie. You have 30% of A DNA marker, 20% of B DNA marker, 50% of C DNA marker. It varies to each individual. All Chinese, all humans are amalgam of something. In fact, most Chinese Malaysians do not even know wtf is Han until recently. You know what I mean if you are Chinese Malaysians. That is "race above race" in work. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by Meis: Apr 19 2021, 09:14 AM |
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QUOTE(joe_star @ Apr 3 2021, 02:57 PM) It’s a cultural identity, rather than genetic. Many other tribes and races assimilated into Han Chinese culture over the millienia It is both. Many Manchu Chinese nowadays have Han genes, despite claiming to be Manchu.Same like malay identity here, doesnt necessarily have genetic requirements Somewhere down its lineage, there was a Han in its family. Most of the current Manchu nowadays are "mixed". And if you ask them on Manchu culture, they will go speechless. The Han thing is not as important as some of you would like to think of. Read my previous posts. The gov't didn't promote "it" coz they do not want to piss off the minorities. In fact, according to the constitution, Han chauvinism is criticized... even in Mao's period. The gov't let the private industry to deal with it, just like the recent H&M drama "cotton ban"... let the consumers to decide. I'm one of the few persons who criticized the Chinese designers for not doing more for Han clothes. You can see A LOT of tv drama and programs with Han clothes. MSM media like to make the Han clothes look like dying bcoz it is called make news and sell news... $$$ During the "rapid growth" period or after 1949 being poor and shet, no one cares about culture strength, entertainment, leisure. As the middle class and wealth grew, ppl demand for more culture strength, entertainment, leisure. This post has been edited by Meis: Apr 19 2021, 09:50 AM |
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I too want to be an emperor
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十音試穿03丨10套漢服&漢元素新品上身參考·2019秋丨TRY ON HAUL丨New Hanfu & Hanfu Style Dress · Autumn·2019丨Shiyin Shiyin 十音 Official Channel » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by Meis: Apr 19 2021, 09:27 AM |
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QUOTE(Meis @ Apr 19 2021, 08:18 AM) This is a fallacy. Han is ethno-ethnicity aka race above race. Han is bound by "Y-chromosome haplogroup O2-M122", a common DNA marker in Han Chinese. That is true. People from Southern China used to call themselves Tong Yan/Teng Lang i.e. people of Tang Dynasty.If u do not understand, just put it this way: Our full genetic is 100% or 1 full pie. You have 30% of A DNA marker, 20% of B DNA marker, 50% of C DNA marker. It varies to each individual. All Chinese, all humans are amalgam of something. In fact, most Chinese Malaysians do not even know wtf is Han until recently. You know what I mean if you are Chinese Malaysians. That is "race above race" in work. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Apr 19 2021, 09:27 AM) That is true. People from Southern China used to call themselves Tong Yan/Teng Lang i.e. people of Tang Dynasty. Yes. My mom used to call Chinese as Tong yan. Sometimes Kong Fu yan (Guangdong). I'm Canto, btw.As I get older, I have more understand of it. In school time, every Chinese person speaks Canto, hence they are all Chinese, in my eyes. I only learn Mandarin as I get older in high school. And even then, I do not know there are thousands or hundreds of different Chinese languages/dialects. I only learned that in my mid 20s. China = Europe This post has been edited by Meis: Apr 19 2021, 09:39 AM |
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Apr 19 2021, 09:36 AM
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Before pandemic, I help some Malaysian universities organize hanfu events. Glad to see this become popular even in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Raddus @ Apr 2 2021, 10:41 PM) I agree. Because whatever you guys are wearing now is basically a Manchurian costume. Chinese Han ancient culture (non manchu and non ccp branding) is preserved in Japan btw. source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJjDj7w4aQ |
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^ Nope. Nice try. Do not misinterpret it.
These countries have "linkage" with each others. JP didn't preserve CN culture. JP has some elements of CN culture. CN culture is well preserved in CN. There is no JP without the existence of CN. Shinto (JP religion) has elements of CN's Buddhism. Anything that goes into CN will be sinolized. Feel free to quote this. This post has been edited by Meis: Apr 19 2021, 09:59 AM |
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Apr 19 2021, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(Joe_Longgo @ Apr 19 2021, 10:38 AM) I agree. wrong. japan only borrow tang dynasty culture doesn't mean they preserve it.Because whatever you guys are wearing now is basically a Manchurian costume. Chinese Han ancient culture (non manchu and non ccp branding) is preserved in Japan btw. source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhJjDj7w4aQ qipao and aodai, despite inspired by manchu banner dress, it's quintessentially chinese and vietnamese cultural dress respectively. and in taiwan, the so called last bastion of chinese culture, there is no hanfu revival at all. hanfu revival only happen in china and supported by xi jinping. https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/arch...6/14/2003716919 This post has been edited by quintessential: Apr 19 2021, 10:20 AM |
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