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post Mar 29 2021, 02:00 PM, updated 5y ago

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wow after all the marketing can't believe AMD still loses out to 14nm+++++++ brows.gif


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post Mar 29 2021, 02:04 PM

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Games probably the last of its kind to not fully utilize all the cores. Cinebench for the win.
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post Mar 29 2021, 02:08 PM

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Why not highest end vs highest end then only talk ? you can anytime compare i9 vs Ryzen 3 and said AMD loose 9 street to Intel
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post Mar 29 2021, 02:08 PM

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AMD > Intel not first day.
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post Mar 29 2021, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(make87 @ Mar 29 2021, 02:08 PM)
Why not highest end vs highest end then only talk ? you can anytime compare i9 vs Ryzen 3 and said AMD loose 9 street to Intel
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Ryzen 7 vs Core i7 are not equally playing field?
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post Mar 29 2021, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(make87 @ Mar 29 2021, 02:08 PM)
Why not highest end vs highest end then only talk ? you can anytime compare i9 vs Ryzen 3 and said AMD loose 9 street to Intel
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i7 vs r7 and 2 same fkin laptops with identical specs

how is that not same bye.gif
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post Mar 29 2021, 02:25 PM

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post Mar 29 2021, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(bibiWong @ Mar 29 2021, 02:00 PM)
wow after all the marketing can't believe AMD still loses out to 14nm+++++++ brows.gif
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Yes per equitable wattage consumed, item is alot more better and more efficient
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post Mar 29 2021, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(make87 @ Mar 29 2021, 02:08 PM)
Why not highest end vs highest end then only talk ? you can anytime compare i9 vs Ryzen 3 and said AMD loose 9 street to Intel
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That 2 pc use the most common i7 and ryzen 7 mobile...
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post Mar 29 2021, 07:00 PM

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funny enough the reviewer still pick amd over intel all things considered

he's got a point tho...
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post Mar 29 2021, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(mellovicious @ Mar 29 2021, 07:00 PM)
funny enough the reviewer still pick amd over intel all things considered

he's got a point tho...
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yeah if it's WAY cheaper why not

that's not the case with how little amd offerings are here and crazy wait for them
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post Mar 29 2021, 08:24 PM

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Ryzen has the advantage in desktop but in laptop the Intel is still competitive aside from battery life.

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post Mar 30 2021, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(Icehart @ Mar 29 2021, 08:24 PM)
Ryzen has the advantage in desktop but in laptop the Intel is still competitive aside from battery life.
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Same for desktop.... 5600x priced same with 10700. Oh well 2 free extra core.
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post Mar 30 2021, 07:51 AM

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QUOTE(bibiWong @ Mar 29 2021, 03:00 PM)
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ROFLMAO.

use mid range AMD chip vs Intel's highest end chip.

That Jarrod Tech guy has a hard boner for Intel, and it shows. A lot of his recent videos are all twisting to show Intel in a better light.

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post Mar 30 2021, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Mar 30 2021, 07:51 AM)
ROFLMAO.

use mid range AMD chip vs Intel's highest end chip.

That Jarrod Tech guy has a hard boner for Intel, and it shows. A lot of his recent videos are all twisting to show Intel in a better light.
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mid range AMD chip ? lmao its literally the 2nd best mobile amd currently thats only 3% behind a ryzen 9 5900H.
You are the one twisting thing here. Its mobile i7 vs mobile ryzen 7 H. Totally fair comparison here.
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post Mar 30 2021, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Mar 30 2021, 07:51 AM)
ROFLMAO.

use mid range AMD chip vs Intel's highest end chip.

That Jarrod Tech guy has a hard boner for Intel, and it shows. A lot of his recent videos are all twisting to show Intel in a better light.
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Oh ? Then which Amd chip you want to use to compare ? Tell me which one is higher end than 5800H
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post Mar 30 2021, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(xyrotix @ Mar 30 2021, 10:26 AM)
mid range AMD chip ? lmao its literally the 2nd best mobile amd currently thats only 3% behind a ryzen 9 5900H.
You are the one twisting thing here. Its mobile i7 vs mobile ryzen 7 H. Totally fair comparison here.
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Twisting facts? Every intel fanbois will jump in joy after watching this video. Of course Youtubers would need to milk some attention. Why don't you post Hardware Unboxed's video on the subject as well? They hold no punches, even NVidia threatened to boycott them for not falling in

QUOTE(uberon @ Mar 30 2021, 10:31 AM)
Oh ? Then which Amd chip you want to use to compare ? Tell me which one is higher end than 5800H
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Why not take the best of both AMD and Intel? Intel's 10980HK, and then AMD has their 5980HX. Even then, the comparisons would be not "fair", because of various baseline issues,

like
a) can both (regardless any chip) be locked and measured at a single TDP point? (Intel motherboard TDP guidance has always been ignored so that the chip draws more power for performance)
b) same RAM, same GPU (this is also problematic as people do understand RAM timings affect both chips differently, and now AMD has this RAGE / SAM mode, even if it doesn't work with NVidia GPU, it doesn't mean AMD hasn't taken steps to enable Resizable-BAR support with Nvidia, again, another issue)
c) price tier issues (even if you assume MSRP issue)

Just like Intel fanbois called out various other videos where Youtubers used Intel 10870 (and not 10875) chips against AMD's 5800H (which isn't even "second best", but its definitely one of the more, if not the most popular chip used in a lot of so called 'high-end' laptops), I think AMD fanbois definitely got this one right.

But just to humour you, if we're looking at Intel 10785H, I think the equivalent on AMD's side should be the 5900H. The 5900HX variant could also fit in, but I hold reservations about the 5900HX due to some factors.
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post Mar 30 2021, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Mar 30 2021, 12:31 PM)
Twisting facts? Every intel fanbois will jump in joy after watching this video. Of course Youtubers would need to milk some attention. Why don't you post Hardware Unboxed's video on the subject as well? They hold no punches, even NVidia threatened to boycott them for not falling in
Why not take the best of both AMD and Intel? Intel's 10980HK, and then AMD has their 5980HX. Even then, the comparisons would be not "fair", because of various baseline issues,

like
a) can both (regardless any chip) be locked and measured at a single TDP point? (Intel motherboard TDP guidance has always been ignored so that the chip draws more power for performance)
b) same RAM, same GPU (this is also problematic as people do understand RAM timings affect both chips differently, and now AMD has this RAGE / SAM mode, even if it doesn't work with NVidia GPU, it doesn't mean AMD hasn't taken steps to enable Resizable-BAR support with Nvidia, again, another issue)
c) price tier issues (even if you assume MSRP issue)

Just like Intel fanbois called out various other videos where Youtubers used Intel 10870 (and not 10875) chips against AMD's 5800H (which isn't even "second best", but its definitely one of the more, if not the most popular chip used in a lot of so called 'high-end' laptops), I think AMD fanbois definitely got this one right.

But just to humour you, if we're looking at Intel 10785H, I think the equivalent on AMD's side should be the 5900H. The 5900HX variant could also fit in, but I hold reservations about the 5900HX due to some factors.
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Thats why u amd fan cannot be taken seriously........ want to compare ryzen 9 with i7. Ok you can have your own opinion.

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post Mar 30 2021, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Mar 30 2021, 12:31 PM)
Twisting facts? Every intel fanbois will jump in joy after watching this video. Of course Youtubers would need to milk some attention. Why don't you post Hardware Unboxed's video on the subject as well? They hold no punches, even NVidia threatened to boycott them for not falling in
Why not take the best of both AMD and Intel? Intel's 10980HK, and then AMD has their 5980HX. Even then, the comparisons would be not "fair", because of various baseline issues,

like
a) can both (regardless any chip) be locked and measured at a single TDP point? (Intel motherboard TDP guidance has always been ignored so that the chip draws more power for performance)
b) same RAM, same GPU (this is also problematic as people do understand RAM timings affect both chips differently, and now AMD has this RAGE / SAM mode, even if it doesn't work with NVidia GPU, it doesn't mean AMD hasn't taken steps to enable Resizable-BAR support with Nvidia, again, another issue)
c) price tier issues (even if you assume MSRP issue)

Just like Intel fanbois called out various other videos where Youtubers used Intel 10870 (and not 10875) chips against AMD's 5800H (which isn't even "second best", but its definitely one of the more, if not the most popular chip used in a lot of so called 'high-end' laptops), I think AMD fanbois definitely got this one right.

But just to humour you, if we're looking at Intel 10785H, I think the equivalent on AMD's side should be the 5900H. The 5900HX variant could also fit in, but I hold reservations about the 5900HX due to some factors.
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ya those asshole intel fan dare to compare R7 to I7 so unfair. Why not compare I3 with R7 !!! AMD FTWWWWW
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post Mar 30 2021, 10:37 PM

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