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wodenus
post Apr 25 2010, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Mar 21 2010, 04:18 PM)
And yes, just like private banking, you'll get a personal banker guarding your account.


More likely trying to sell you investment plans.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Mar 21 2010, 04:18 PM)
Any queries related to your account you can just ring up your personal banker.


Who's really just a salesperson.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Mar 21 2010, 04:18 PM)
The problem with AUD is that when anything goes wrong with the global economy, investors will all be dumping AUD and buy more USD.


Why?


Added on April 25, 2010, 9:21 pm
QUOTE(dARKaNGEl @ Apr 25 2010, 08:59 PM)
I have done a simple comparison between a few banks myself.
I compared among public bank, cimb, uob, hong leong, and ocbc.

among all, hong leong seems to give the highest FCFD rates but UOB forex rates is the best in terms of them selling and buying.
however the difference between UOB and HL forex rate is just 0.3% different for both selling and buying.
From this, I think i will go for HL. But they need u to deposit at least RM8K
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Be careful of forced conversion.

This post has been edited by wodenus: Apr 25 2010, 09:21 PM
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post Apr 25 2010, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 25 2010, 09:39 PM)
Not really. One of the best things of becoming a mass affluent customer of a bank is to get many bank fees waived.


Are there really that many bank fees?

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 25 2010, 09:39 PM)
There will always be this and that new investments from time to time and it is up to the individual whether or not he or she wants to invest in it. Some RM will not even call you because they know you are not interested in any investment products.


Ever tried to get an RM to actually do any work? Suppose I were to say, "please write a summary (including recommendations and justifications) of any current and future investment plans and email them to me" do you think that would be done? I think you won't have a personal RM regardless of the amount of money you have, it would be like having your own OC-3 line in a data center wouldn't it?

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post Apr 26 2010, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:05 AM)
No minimum balance fee in our current account


If you had 150mil, there probably wouldn't be a min balance fee in the first place.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:05 AM)
free ATM card with unlimited withdrawal.


Already have that.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:05 AM)
Standard Chartered Priority Banking VISA debit card even offers free unlimited cash withdrawals via any House ATM network.


There can't be that many ATMs in that network.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:05 AM)
Offshore banking services are provided free too without having to meet the minimum balance criteria just to name a few.


He would have met the minimum criteria anyway. Besides, what's so attractive about offshore banking?

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:05 AM)
The main perks are to get some banks fees waived


Not that there are a whole lot of fees.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:05 AM)
no need to fill in your own forms


Can't remember the last time I filled in a form at the bank.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:05 AM)
no need to take number etc.


Can't remember the last time I took a number at the bank either. Most of the time all our transactions are online or through a machine. If there's a form to be filled, most of the time it's filled in by the staff.

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post Apr 26 2010, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:33 PM)
By the way, i believe many businessmen have millions of Ringgit in local banks current accounts and the minimum balance fee still apply.


True, but doesn't change the fact that they're offering to waive a fee that wouldn't have to be paid in the first place smile.gif

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:33 PM)
Still, it's something that their customers can take advantage of.


For what it's worth smile.gif

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:33 PM)
There will soon be more HSBC Amanah offsite ATM ...


Ok.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:33 PM)
Plenty ! Else why do you think many Malaysians have offshore bank accounts ?


I don't know, you tell me smile.gif

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:33 PM)
You have not been into the branch in a very long time i suppose ? Maybank, CIMB Bank and RHB Bank practically force you to fill up the forms first before allowing you to take a number. Public Bank suggests you to fill in the forms first before taking a number but then it's just a suggestion and they are not enforcing it. AmBank on the other hand, no longer requires its customers to fill in any forms since last year.


So it follows that you should bank with AmBank.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:33 PM)
Other forms that you may not have to fill in yourself are the loan application forms


It's better that way, you're going to have to check them anyway.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:33 PM)
credit card application forms


If you qualify you'll have one sent to you.

QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Apr 26 2010, 12:33 PM)
Not everyone relies on automated banking machines only. Many still actually go into the branch to do whatever they need to do.


I can't imagine why anyone would do that.

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post Apr 28 2010, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 27 2010, 11:43 AM)
If you transfer more than 10K then you must make declaration to BNM. I have made several declarations, so far no problems.
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The bank staff will fill it out for you, don't have to do it yourself.


Added on April 28, 2010, 11:34 am
QUOTE(tpl @ Apr 28 2010, 08:13 AM)
few mths back they set the rules at USD10k? anyone heard of this?


Dunno, I still have to sign the form.


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post May 23 2010, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(dkk @ May 18 2010, 03:04 PM)
Not quite low. Very low.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=12&pg=629#

If you look at the chart. The dip in Euro is even more pronounced.

Three years ago, GBP$1 was close to RM7.

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=12&pg=6...ype=Mid&unit=rm

How low can it go?
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15 years ago it was Rm3.80.

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post May 24 2010, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Muliku @ May 24 2010, 09:48 AM)
just called PBB again and now advised (by a different person) that upon maturity convert to MYR cash at prevalent forex rates. this is cool.


No it's not. You always want for the currency to not be converted so you have the flexibility of choosing when to do it. If it so happens that the rate suddenly sinks like a stone, you want to be able to say "hold on, I don't want to convert yet". Remember what happened to AUD/MYR? lots of people got stuck when it suddenly fell off a cliff (not that that was unexpected, the only unexpected thing was how it fell so far and so fast.) It subsequently recovered, but if you were forced to convert at that time you would have lost a lot.


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post May 24 2010, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ May 24 2010, 07:50 PM)
bloody hell!, thats why it level up so fast bcos of this. vmad.gif
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Oh look, it just fell off a cliff again.. see what I mean? smile.gif

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post May 26 2010, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 25 2010, 12:10 AM)
You guys should go for dual currency investment. The interest rate is much higher than a conventional fixed deposit. I think it is a lot safer and fit your purpose of currency hedging besides earning a handsome return from interest.
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Added on May 26, 2010, 6:02 pm
QUOTE(cherroy @ May 26 2010, 03:00 PM)
DCI has pairing.

For eg. RM-AUD

DCI has 1 week 2 week or 1 month, tenure depended on banks offer or customer request as well. It will cease after the period.
Current spot rate of RM-AUD is 2.73.
your strike price could be 2.73 or 2.72 (spot - 100 pips), or 2.71 as well

For illustration
2.73 - 30%
2.72 - 20%
2.71 - 10%

Above is the offer of interest rate given with strike price based on 1 week tenure (can be 2 week or 1 month as well), but shorter duration, they give better rate.  Interest rate given is differ each day depended on the volatility of forex market, last week, when there is severe move in currency market, there is once DCI carried 70% as well.

Let say you decide to go in 2.73 - 30%
After 1 week, if the spot rate of RM-AUD is 2.74, then your RM won't be converted to AUD, but you will get 30% pa interest rate on your invested money.
If the spot rate is below the strike price of 2.73, your RM will be converted to AUD at 2.73, with together the 30% pa interest rate.

Based currency can be both way i.e. RM or AUD.
As if the money is converted to AUD, you could do the reverse aka base currency of AUD-RM DCI as well.
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They have a minimum investment of Rm500,000 or something like that.



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post May 26 2010, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ May 26 2010, 06:26 PM)
No way ! It is much much lower than that.
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I can't remember, I did remember thinking I'd be better off with other forms of investment if they were going to require hundreds of thousands.

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post Aug 14 2010, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 14 2010, 10:38 AM)
Interest rate for AUD and NZD is expected to rise further if economy does recover, so too long term commitment is not advisable. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.


Isn't it usually the case that a curency's interest rate will go up when the currency's value drops, and vice-versa?

QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 14 2010, 10:38 AM)
Even we holding RM, we still have currency risk on RM, whereby RM can appreciate/depreciate against others major currency.


True, but we don't have to pay spread the buy or sell RM smile.gif

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post Aug 14 2010, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(bubbl3t3a @ Aug 14 2010, 01:15 PM)
I have asked some friends (not really expert but just their opinion) compare between these both countries Australia and New Zealand they said NZ is a much more stable and peaceful country than Australia.


Iceland was (and is) a famously peaceful and stable country. Interest rates were close to 15% a year. And then they almost went bankrupt.

QUOTE(bubbl3t3a @ Aug 14 2010, 01:15 PM)
If i like NZ from this trip i might plan my migration there in the future.


Yes stay there for a few years, don't judge a country on the basis of one short visit. Tourism is one thing, immigration is another.

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post Aug 19 2010, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 14 2010, 06:56 PM)
Not necessarily so. In the case of the credit crunch in 2008/2009, key interest rates were reduced drastically across the globe mainly to spur spending.


But that was a temporary anomaly right? normally markets are efficient?


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post Aug 19 2010, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Aug 17 2010, 09:13 PM)
Yes, australian banks will yield you one of the best returns globally, but it is also extremely volatile. hence, if the AUD depreciates to a level unacceptable to you, you can always opt to transfer the funds from your australian hsbc premier account to the malaysian equivalent at your discretion with no commission or fee.


But by then you'd have lost a ton. And spread isn't "technically" a commission or a fee, it's just a difference.


Added on August 19, 2010, 11:11 am
QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Aug 19 2010, 11:06 AM)
but we are talking about 2.6 here (per USD) and not a drop of couple points.


We were talking about the pre-recession market inertia.


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