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nokia2003
post May 5 2010, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(tpl @ May 5 2010, 12:14 PM)
Yes i am. Bought one last Sep. cry.gif
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congratulation on your new property and at the same time, sorry to hear about your misfortune. ohmy.gif ohmy.gif ohmy.gif
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post May 5 2010, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(tpl @ May 5 2010, 12:50 PM)
ohh i just noticed you in Vic? which part bro?
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where else? melbourne (zone 2) of course.

perth is too boring (no offence to any perth-ians) and sydney is too congested.

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post May 5 2010, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(tpl @ May 5 2010, 01:22 PM)
Haha.. Me too in Melb. but zone 1.
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any oz bank recommendations for term deposit and non-term deposit accounts? nod.gif nod.gif nod.gif
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post May 20 2010, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ May 20 2010, 11:39 PM)
Just opened a GBP savings account with HSBC. Pretty painless. These are the fees :

Opening fees : RM100
Yearly fees : RM100
Maintenance fees : RM10/month (waived if balance more than equivalent RM20k)
Deposit : RM100 (will return RM80, minus RM20 closing account fee when closing account)

Rate was 4.7 yesterday. YEAH brows.gif
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what are the rates for GBP like?

my previous account in the UK (left after completing my studies there) is still idle and the monthly interest yielded is pathetic.

and why not AUD (if i may ask)?
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post May 23 2010, 12:55 AM

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i managed to secure AUD @ 2.75 via my housemate's HSBC early this week.

rumours/speculations are hot that the reserve bank of australia actually intervened last friday (after 12pm-ish) to keep it from dropping.

not sure if AUD will continue dropping this coming week.

but with the MYR performing poorly as well, not sure how much difference, it will make
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post Jul 2 2010, 04:37 PM

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my housemate was just telling me yesterday that HSBC Australia is currently doing 6.1% for only 4 months.

he was rather surprised because HSBC doesn't usuallyoffer the best rates as compared to its rivals.

just FYI of course.

have a good day everyone!

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post Aug 14 2010, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(bubbl3t3a @ Aug 14 2010, 01:15 PM)
Thanks cherroy.

I have asked some friends (not really expert but just their opinion) compare between these both countries Australia and New Zealand they said NZ is a much more stable and peaceful country than Australia. So if anything happen wars or any political thing NZ won't effect that much. So they advice me to actually go to NZ and put the money there then convert the interest back to MYR and enjoy quartely. After i read about the depreciation of currency i begin to fear. I am looking for something very stable because this will be part of my retirement plan. I found two bank in NZ which is Wespac and ANZ giving a rate of 6.75% for 60 months term deposit. I am not sure this is wise. I will be going to NZ on end of this month for this reason to negotiate for better interest rate that they can offer. Again before that i would like to know what is the best choice before i make a huge decision. I want to know what to ask also since i am not a financial expert. If i like NZ from this trip i might plan my migration there in the future.
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i'm currently studying finance in australia and pretty well aware of the banking industry over here.

so if you do have any reservations/questions, do post them in this thread, i will try my best to answer them.

of course the usual disclaimer rule applies as i'm not providing any personal advice.

by the way, 60 months for just 6.75% is way way too much and unjustified.

you can obtain 6% with ease without any commitment i.e. withdrawal at your discretion.

these days, with internet banking, you can manage your funds at a click of a mouse.
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post Aug 17 2010, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(bubbl3t3a @ Aug 17 2010, 04:16 PM)
Can i know what is your suggestion and advice?


Added on August 17, 2010, 4:29 pm
As i've told you i am a financial dummy. This is why i need to know the best solution for my saving and make the money work for me a consistent income every month.

I understand the economy strength for AUD is stronger than NZ. The only concern i have is the AUD will still continue to drop. Do you think this is the best time to put money in AUD? Will the currency have chances to still going down? If i am not mistaken the average benchmark price for AUD is 2.5.


Added on August 17, 2010, 4:39 pm
I am not aware about this. This is why i want to take a trip there to talk to the bank officer directly. How about AUD?

After some advices here i have second thought to go AUD instead. But still need to find more.
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the usual disclaimer rule applies as i'm not providing any personal advice.


you are definitely, what they call a risk-adverse investor; unwilling to participate in risky products and made obvious with questions like Do you think this is the best time to put money in AUD? Will the currency have chances to still going down?

seeing that you actually have NZD600 grand to spare, i would definitely recommend that you first open a malaysian hsbc premier account (however it is likely that you already have one based on your previous statements). but always maintain that account to avoid hefty monthly charges.

then instruct your relationship manager to assist you to open an australian equivalent of hsbc premier account.

with an existing, recognised australian account, you are then exposed to an array to other financial products offered by other banks/financial institutions.

IMHO, bankwest typically offer very attractive products and is backed by commonwealth bank of australia (one of the big four). also bear in mind that these products are not precisely term deposits/fixed deposits and hence there is no commitment needed. statements in the spoiler below are quoted from bankwest's website.
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yes, australian banks will yield you one of the best returns globally, but it is also extremely volatile. hence, if the AUD depreciates to a level unacceptable to you, you can always opt to transfer the funds from your australian hsbc premier account to the malaysian equivalent at your discretion with no commission or fee.

interests earned are non-taxable if total income earned is kept below AUD6000 per annum. further explanation of personal assessable income tax brackets can be found from the ATO website

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post Aug 18 2010, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(bubbl3t3a @ Aug 18 2010, 02:34 PM)
Thanks nokia, this really help alot. I actually have my NZ visa done today but will change my mind to AUD instead as what all of you said here is quite true. I'll look into Bankwest.

I heard from another friend who follow the currency quite closely said Malaysia is trying to bring down USD back to 2.6 by end of this year. He said RM now is quite strong and by end of years will have 27 countries pumping in RM507b to Malaysia for investment. With this money coming in will surely make RM going up. This is why i am bit concern. If we can minimize losing/risk of course we'll try to avoid even though i know market is hard to predict.
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hmmm... i don't really buy into such speculations. besides malaysia is a still a FDI dependent nation and i doubt that the central bank will allow us to lose such comparative advantages.

my motto is just to invest with the diversification as a motive and hence don't place everything in australia.

by the way, if you do have NZD600 grand to spare, you really shouldn't be asking such questions in a public forum; opt for a financial planner instead.

i will only answer to questions pertaining to maneuvers and financial products over in australia, as i'm not an expert and do not hold an AFSL.

all my knowledge has been channeled through my degree and hence it may differ in actual life.

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QUOTE(WingDeSole @ Aug 18 2010, 07:34 PM)
I wonder why all looking for FD as saving/investment?

I will prefer Unit trust for saving/investment, of course for long term of period.

With UTC service you portfolio rarely had any chance to lost after 5 years.

There is several tactic available to minimize the risk and maximize the profit
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now, that's the problem.

you are attempting to minimise the risk.

risk averse investors are trying to eliminate risk completely.

australian banks (and banks globally) are typically guaranteed by the federal government
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QUOTE(WingDeSole @ Aug 18 2010, 07:54 PM)
Well, I cant denied with that.

I do believe we have a word "high risk high return"

As you guys looking for foreign FD because intend to get higher return from more than a local FD could provide.

Most people put in FD for long term but in unit trust/fund is looking for long term for stabilize the portfolio.

I cant say it;s risk free, everything had their risk, just lower risk.

Just an opinion because with low return, your money became smaller because of inflation. I believe everyone hope their saving at least be able to kept their value .
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can't say the same about malaysia.

but over in australia, RBA is committed to maintain annual inflation rates in the region of 2-3%.

hence if your interest rate earned from saving, exceeds that, you are actually doing alright.


Added on August 18, 2010, 11:36 pm
QUOTE(MilesAndMore @ Aug 18 2010, 08:05 PM)
That is highly unlikely. Besides, the fundamental of RM is actually quite weak.
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spot on.

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post Aug 19 2010, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 19 2010, 10:31 AM)
But that was a temporary anomaly right? normally markets are efficient?
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but we are talking about 2.6 here (per USD) and not a drop of couple points.

2.6 is close to the pre 1997 asian crisis.
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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 19 2010, 11:09 AM)
But by then you'd have lost a ton. And spread isn't "technically" a commission or a fee, it's just a difference.

of course, you are absolutely right.

nothing is risk-free.

what i meant earlier, mimics what you will do in a stock market.

if the stock that you are currently holding, is beginning to plunge, an automatic response would be selling them off, to recuperate as much as you can.

it all boils down to your own personal discretion on when to remit the money back



Added on August 19, 2010, 11:11 am

We were talking about the pre-recession market inertia.
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hmm... not quite sure what you mean here.

but i was basically referring to bubbl3t3a's claim that a "close friend" has insider information that the exchange rate will be heading towards 2.6 by end of the year.

man, if it does go to 2.6, i will be so broke purchasing all those gadgets from the states. yum!

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QUOTE(jphlau @ Aug 19 2010, 11:34 AM)
with malaysia as an export based country, it is unlikely that Bank Negara will allow RM to appreciate so much that would made our products expensive. We still need foreign investment, thus RM should be maintained as it is now.
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that's what i reckon as well.

QUOTE(nokia2003 @ Aug 18 2010, 03:16 PM)
hmmm... i don't really buy into such speculations. besides malaysia is a still a FDI dependent nation and i doubt that the central bank will allow us to lose such comparative advantages.

my motto is just to invest with the diversification as a motive and hence don't place everything in australia.

by the way, if you do have NZD600 grand to spare, you really shouldn't be asking such questions in a public forum; opt for a financial planner instead.

i will only answer to questions pertaining to maneuvers and financial products over in australia, as i'm not an expert and do not hold an AFSL.

all my knowledge has been channeled through my degree and hence it may differ in actual life.
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QUOTE(heliora @ Aug 22 2010, 10:50 PM)
You can also look into UBank Online Savers which offers 6.01% standard variable interest rate and 6.51% if you have regular deposits of at least $200 a month, UBank is a division of NAB. And as far as I know when I last closed bank accounts last year, NAB's bank account is the only one without monthly service fee.

I checked the BankWest regular savers, you can only open at a maximum of $500 deposit, and save a maximum of $500 per month, so if you have a large amount of money you can't put all in. UBank has no such restriction.
As for the interest earned, if you are a non-resident you will only have to pay withholding tax at 10% and that's all, this applies to interest and dividends received. The bank automatically withholds it when they pay you interest.
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to be honest, i'm actually an ubank customer and i have that said accounts.

however, despite being no fee account, i would still prefer bankwest because they do have actual, physical branches here in melbourne.

furthermore, i merely link my bankwest accounts to a primary account of mine; i don't like the idea of multiple accounts (harder for me track them)

having said that, i should be closing my ubank account shortly upon graduation.


Added on August 23, 2010, 1:27 pm
QUOTE(jack2 @ Aug 23 2010, 07:25 AM)
Can we open those account without physical attendance to bank?


Added on August 23, 2010, 7:54 am

Wonder why need to open account with HSBC premier, then australian equivalent HSBC premier?

Can we just direct open with Bank West?

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i was suggesting that in relation to bubbl3t3a.

quoting my statement above; with an australian account, bubbl3t3a can then proceed to link these bankwest accounts to his/her australian hsbc premier account.

that way, bubbl3t3a can mitigate his/her risks better.

bankwest -> australian hsbc premier -> malaysian hsbc premier (with no transfer fee/commission)

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QUOTE(nomen @ Sep 16 2010, 03:37 PM)
I am quite keen, when is the right timing, any idea sifu?   Mind giving some tips.
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don't go for AUD now.

it is extremely overvalued at the moment.

i'm just waiting for AUD to reach in parity (or at least sufficiently close) with USD.

if does happen, it will not reflect well on MYR

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Disappointment risk: Aussie dollar '27% overvalued'

Australia's dollar, this quarter's best performing major currency, is now the most overvalued.
Purchasing power parity, a measure of the cost of goods relative to other countries, shows the so-called Aussie is 27 per cent too expensive, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The median estimate of strategists and economists is for it to weaken 6 per cent by year-end, the fourth-worst performance of 31 currencies tracked by Bloomberg...


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RBA is most likely gonna increase the overnight cash rate next fortnight.

so...


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QUOTE(jphlau @ Sep 20 2010, 02:01 PM)
two contrasting news.
One, the AUD is overvalued and will drop. 
Second, Australia economy is growing robustly and rate rise is lightly to be increased which will increase the AUD.

One thing to note is that AUD is commodity driven. If AUD drop, that means demands for commodity decrease, world economy in decline, possible the 'predicted' double dip.

Edit: Heard that ringgit is the best performing asian currency. So is ringgit overvalued as well?
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hmmm, IMHO, AUD will definitely continue to appreciate until at least first quarter of 2011.

flash back to february 2010, i purchased my AUD at 3.08, so touching that all high level, shouldn't be much of a problem.

rumours are hot for overnight cash rate to hit 4.75% (and even 5%) soon from the current 4.5%.


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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 29 2010, 10:12 AM)
Anyways, AUD is sky rocketting these few weeks

For those who had bought @ 2.7x/ low 2.8ish , would have made some handsome returns as it's hitting 3.00 soon.

Eg; bought @ 2.75, if resell @ 3.05, gain= 10.9% . just from the conversion rate, have not factored in %interest
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even more if their AUD were purchased during GFC @ 2.25.

my tuition fees were bought at that rate.

the AUD is extremely volatile and hence to a certain extend risky.
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brace yourself for this upcoming tuesday as RBA announces its decision to raise the overnight cash rate or not.

if it does, i believe that the increase will be a jump and thus sending the AUD shooting through the roof!

it is already 3.000 as i'm typing this.

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