I would like to continue my degree but between these both universities which one is better to study computer science?

Erm.... Have you considered University of Malaya's Backdoor?

Sarjana Muda Sains Komputer (Kejuruteraan Perisian)
Bachelor of Computer Science (Software Engineering)

Sarjana Muda Sains Komputer (Kepintaran Buatan)
Bachelor of Computer Science (Artificial Intelligence)

https://www.umcced.edu.my/programme/satu

Also what type of High School / Diploma degree you're currently holding?

I didn’t meet UM entry requirement. IPTS’s student can apply for IPTA?

I am IPTS’s student and having Diploma in Computer Science.

Yes you can apply through front door via UPU Online.

Government IPTA accept both Diploma from Private and Public Degree.
Please use this as your full advantage as they normally accept Diploma students rather than those in PREU.

If your CGPA isn't that bad got above 3 out of 4. I think you can try apply.

I already tried to apply via UPU but when select the six programs, I didn’t see UM programs option. All are UPSI, UITM and so on. Didn’t appear UM Computer Science programme.

I think you better make a call to UPUOnline to check your options.
Is your CGPA good?

Well other local malaysian unis are technically okay as well.

To be very frank with you lah, you enter IPTS, you sometimes realize things are actually quite shitty compared to IPTA.
Also you will notice the diversity issue where you might get sick and tired seeing the same people every day.

It kind of depends what IPTS you enter. Branch campus like UoW and Swinburne have their academic programmes strictly regulated by its home campus. That being said, both universities are rather fine even by Australian standard - not the top, but decent, reputable, and have performed well.

I myself am a Swinburne graduate and compared to my peers who graduated from IPTA studying the same programme, I cannot agree that IPTS has a shittier academic programme. Not to say IPTA is shitty, but the focus isn't the same, and both have their pros and cons.

I will, however, agree IPTS tend to have shitty facilities. Because IPTS tend to also be smaller, the diversity issue is acute, but I don't think it should be a factor for consideration.

The back door you mean was this? https://www.umcced.edu.my/programme/satu

Is it guarantee will apply successful? Because it needs to pay RM300 in order to submit my application form.

Isn't that over generalization? While most IPTS are very cost-conscious, there are exceptions. I feel that overall IPTS has better facilities especially at the top-tier institutions. For example - if you look at APU's facilities, it is leaps and bounds over any IPTA facilities. Unless you mean facilities overall which include sports and amenities and learning resources like libraries. But in terms of computer labs, i feel overall IPTS computer labs are generally better equipped.

Again on diversity - generally the diversity is more spread out in IPTS rather than IPTA. What is your general assumption and definition on diversity?

I have been lecturing in two different IPTS over the period of 20 years, just recently finished my PhD in an IPTA and I have also done MQA assessments in both IPTA and IPTS. If anything, the diversity ratio is more spread out in private universities. Would love to know the rationale behind the statements.

I don't really want to comment as there is a certain decorum and respect among universities and since i am also a council member for GDCOM and Swinburne is a partner under that council.

My only advice is to visit both campuses and get a general feel of the place. Every university has a different vibe and feel. From it's atmosphere to its environment and to its student body.

As stated by someone, both are Australian entities. The only key difference is that Swinburne is classified as a Foreign Branch Campus under a partnership between the Sarawak State Government and Swinburne Australia. While UOW Malaysia KDU was formerly known as KDU University College and was acquired by UOW Australia in 2019. This makes UOWM KDU the ONLY university in Malaysia that has been acquired directly by a Foreign University (and not a education group like INTI). And yes, both swinburne and UOW are strictly regulated by their Australian Mother Universities.

So once graduate from UOWMKDU:
1) I will received the certificate and transcript which are awarded by UOW Australia such as Swinburne Sarawak’s certificate is awarded by main campus in Australia
2) Or awarded by UOWMKDU which mean the certificate and transcript are different with the UOW AUSTRALIA?

By next year it would be BOTH. A UOWMKDU and UOW Australia. That means you will get a Malaysian Honours Degree and an Australian non-honours (Australia honours requires another year). This will only be for the Computer Science, Software Engineering and Business Programmes.

If I join this year May intake, I will only receive 1 cert that is awarded by UOWMKDU?

Only if I join next year January intake, I will receive both cert awarded by UOWMKDU and UOW AUSTRALIA. If I graduated in 2022 year, I also can’t receive both cert?

By the way,the campus I choose is Glenmarie(Bachelor of Computer Science). Not Penang campus.

As long you grades meets the requirements. I think should be fine.
Most IPTS charge this price for registration fees.

I didn’t meet the requirement. UM need additional mathematics in SPM. But I am art stream student.

Yes, when I wrote facilities, I meant sports and amenities and learning resources including library materials and laboratory equipment. Computer lab in IPTS may be better equipped but the number of labs is often less. Again, I would defend that because IPTS tend to have smaller campuses and hence pales in quantity. The story is different in regards to quality. Also, IPTA is more research-focus, IPTS is more on degree delivery. To clarify, I'm not saying IPTS doesn't care about research, I'm saying IPTS simply doesn't have the resources like IPTA do, and so when it comes to research, IPTA is very much more better equipped.

Diversity, in general I meant, is background, international exchanges, change in ideas, and communal and industrial activities. I agree it doesn't apply to all IPTS, but based on my experience, IPTA tend to get their students engaged in many activities sponsored by the industry. IPTS students have less such activities in comparison.

I was an engineering student. Perhaps it doesn't apply to other programmes, but the above is true for engineering. Can't say about business, finance, or technology.

diploma should have math modules to substitute this subject...?
check with enrollment admin officers

I assume you are coming in at SPM/O'Levels Level? if so, then you will need to undergo a year in foundation. That would still mean that you will be eligible for the dual degree.

Unless you mean you are coming in straight at degree level, then that is something we hope to iron out by this year. Which i think, it may be settled. You can PM me directly if you want to learn more.

If I graduated in 2022 year, I also can’t receive both cert?
How is it possible to graduate by 2022? Maybe you can PM me with your details? Are you a diploma student? SPM/O'Levels? A'Levels/STPM?

Ah..indeed. The facilities especially the sheer land build-up of Public Universities is amazing!

yeah - i agree with you on all fronts on the fact that IPTA is more research-focus, IPTS is more on degree delivery. IPTS cannot put in as much resources in pure researech in terms of manpower and budget. Although last i heard - to apply for a full university status, you need to have at least 30% of your revenue diverted into research. That is incredibly hard for private universities.

In terms of this - IPTA tend to get their students engaged in many activities sponsored by the industry. IPTS students have less such activities in comparison. I think the industry collaboration in terms of value is different. But again, that varies from university to university; and discipline to discipline. For example - i am heading the UOW Game Development programme and our industry collaboration is extremely close. In fact, we have frequent sessions with the industry from talks to curriculum review to projects.

I would also say the same with the One Academy who has VERY close ties with the animation industry. Much more than any IPTA out there.

I guess it depends on the fields. For engineering i would say probably IPTAs have a more closer link to the various industries.

Anybody know if there is a final year or 1+2 at Australia for UOW?