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post Apr 10 2021, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(esseeten @ Apr 10 2021, 09:47 PM)
I am friends with one of LAs who is doing it.

And if you want more proof, go ask your SA to ask the developer themselves on your inquiry about who is doing the public landscape for CPD - that is your right as buyer to grill your SA about everything on this development. Or better yet, you go ask the developer reps at the sales gallery rather than agent smile.gif

Anyway the skybridge structure already start laying down, that big metal beam - that is your proof also. Refer this video  their fly through for promote Mossaz+Paxton still shows the Skypark bridge. If im not mistaken, this video is being played at sales gallery too.

I have no idea why the developer decided to not include into their marketing, maybe everything was fast paced and the rest of the plot not finalised when they decided to launch - i dont know. I do agree developer should have finalised first before even launching, if not - its like information bit by bit you get and its difficult for buyers.

I did my own indepth research of the masterplan of potentially what could be there and i suggest you do yours as well. I have found previous renderings of massing, and the things that were consistent in those images, was the D residentials, sky bridge and mosque. So you can bet on those to happen. The others i assume is TBC. But Im also aware lah, that cannot take these images seriously - so wait lah until they reveal confirmed masterplan. I have told my SA to inform ASAP when have more updated info.

Go ahead and do a simple Google search, even look into the youtube videos. Decide yourself to choose to believe and question back to SA & developer rep.

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p.s. this was found in google search on CPD, i am not claiming these are true, but i suppose this is something you can bring to the developer rep to ask more on about.
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What does Mossaz+Paxton got anything to do with what we are talking about....

These 2 are the office blocks... located behind Empire city... not on the D residential land....this is very old 2019 news....

Anyway... I don't want to go down the rabbit hole with you on this....

My posts from the beginning has always been touching on practical observation (i.e. the highway, the religious places, the surrounding area) NOT things that are in some plan or something in proposal... it's just some people here somehow steer the topic arguing about master plan...

At this point... what I can tell you is not to speculate because it seems that you are now desperate trying to find bits and pieces from artist impression and looking for hints... and then imagining they will develop them base on some vague information...(hack... Exsim din't even propose anything and people here assume development for themselves)

i know I've repeated the Tropicana Metropark story many time...hence I want to share with you an even more interesting story

I can tell you this.... SJCC in 2012 proposed by Sime Darby and MBSJ (Imagine...the developer and municipal in the discussion itself) .... which was also published on many news outlet like the edge, the star and the sun etc.. about the future of SJCC.... the artist impression shows a grand mall being build in front of the KTM/LRT station.... and there will be link bridge from the new mall to subang parade and big aeon to improve foot traffic and walkability... there were also an agreement with MBSJ to cover up all the drainage and widen the walk path to improve walkability in the new city centre.... back then ... the Suave (now Lot 15) .... is also linked directly to the mall with a bridge.... based on the artist impression... but now in 2020.... those things did not happen and most likely aren't going to happen... 80% of the plan has been scraped... the only thing left was building more residential apartments... and the mall (this wasn't scrapped but wasn't confirmed either... hence... it might end up being commercial shops or Soho but guaranteed not residential due the connectivity from the train to the rest of subang)


What I'm trying to say is.... things will always change... even if it is a proposal from big listed developers like Sime darby... even if it is published in the news... even if it was in the talks with officials.... it does not guarantee future development... What more when we are talking about smaller developer like Exsim and when they themselves haven't mentioned anything officially yet..

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post Apr 10 2021, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Apr 10 2021, 10:13 PM)
What does Mossaz+Paxton got anything to do with what we are talking about....

These 2 are the office blocks... located behind Empire city... not on the D residential land....this is very old 2019 news....

Anyway... I don't want to go down the rabbit hole with you on this....

My posts from the beginning has always been touching on practical observation (i.e. the highway, the religious places, the surrounding area) NOT things that are in some plan or something in proposal... it's just some people here somehow steer the topic arguing about master plan...

At this point... what I can tell you is not to speculate because it seems that you are now desperate trying to find bits and pieces from artist impression and mentioning of future proposal...(hack... Exsim din't even proposed shit and people here assume development for themselves) and then imagining they will develop this and that base on some vague information...

i know many I've repeated the Tropicana Metropark story many time...hence I want to share with you an even more interesting story

I can tell you this.... SJCC in 2012 proposed by Sime Darby and MBSJ (Imagine...the developer and municipal in the discussion itself) .... which was also published on many news outlet like the edge, the star and the sun etc.. about the future of SJCC.... the artist impression shows a grand mall being build in front of the KTM/LRT station.... and there will be link bridge from the new mall to subang parade and big aeon to improve foot traffic... there were also an agreement with MBSJ to cover up all the drainage and widen the walk path to improve walkability in the new city centre.... back then ... the Suave (now Lot 15) .... is also linked directly to the mall with a bridge.... based on the artist impression... but end up now in 2020.... those things aren't going to happen... 80% of the plan has been scraped... the only thing left was building more residential apartments... and the mall (this wasn't scrapped but wasn't confirmed... hence... it might end up being commercial shops or Soho but guaranteed not residential due the connectivity from the train to the rest of subang)
What I'm trying to say is.... things will always change... even if it is a proposal from big listed developers like Sime darby... even if it is published in the news... even if it was in the talks with officials.... it does not guarantee future development...
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Yes I agree with you on that, on changes that could happen, going in reverse. But this is all the info that we can get for now :/
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Apr 10 2021, 10:13 PM)
What does Mossaz+Paxton got anything to do with what we are talking about....

These 2 are the office blocks... located behind Empire city... not on the D residential land....this is very old 2019 news....

Anyway... I don't want to go down the rabbit hole with you on this....

My posts from the beginning has always been touching on practical observation (i.e. the highway, the religious places, the surrounding area) NOT things that are in some plan or something in proposal... it's just some people here somehow steer the topic arguing about master plan...

At this point... what I can tell you is not to speculate because it seems that you are now desperate trying to find bits and pieces from artist impression and looking for hints... and then imagining they will develop them base on some vague information...(hack... Exsim din't even propose anything and people here assume development for themselves)

i know I've repeated the Tropicana Metropark story many time...hence I want to share with you an even more interesting story

I can tell you this.... SJCC in 2012 proposed by Sime Darby and MBSJ (Imagine...the developer and municipal in the discussion itself) .... which was also published on many news outlet like the edge, the star and the sun etc.. about the future of SJCC.... the artist impression shows a grand mall being build in front of the KTM/LRT station.... and there will be link bridge from the new mall to subang parade and big aeon to improve foot traffic and walkability... there were also an agreement with MBSJ to cover up all the drainage and widen the walk path to improve walkability in the new city centre.... back then ... the Suave (now Lot 15) .... is also linked directly to the mall with a bridge.... based on the artist impression... but now in 2020.... those things did not happen and most likely aren't going to happen... 80% of the plan has been scraped... the only thing left was building more residential apartments... and the mall (this wasn't scrapped but wasn't confirmed either... hence... it might end up being commercial shops or Soho but guaranteed not residential due the connectivity from the train to the rest of subang)
What I'm trying to say is.... things will always change... even if it is a proposal from big listed developers like Sime darby... even if it is published in the news... even if it was in the talks with officials.... it does not guarantee future development... What more when we are talking about smaller developer like Exsim and when they themselves haven't mentioned anything officially yet..
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Agreed, i said the same thing in other post also. Anything could change, all the masterplan, unless it is built, or else, still have doubt on that.
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QUOTE(esseeten @ Apr 10 2021, 10:27 PM)
Yes I agree with you on that, on changes that could happen, going in reverse. But this is all the info that we can get for now :/
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Haha, anyway thanks for the info.
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Apr 10 2021, 01:52 AM)
Been to showroom and surveyed for D'Erica, did my own research. Was offered around 600 psf nett, but I turned down offer.

As mentioned by others', the density of the whole project including nearby buildings is big concern, and unless you work nearby, traffic is going to be hell. I foresee that the roads will be extremely congested and surrounding areas will be affected by it. I'm not sure if this project is really that attractive to people who work more than 30km away and rely on driving laugh.gif

as for whether it's a bargain and there will be capital appreciation... again, the density works against it, because you're competing with the other owners in the whole project laugh.gif If want to drive the price up to "Damansara" level they're going to have to transform the whole area to make it seem higher class.
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That T traffic light going to Ikea and Tesco will kill you during peak hour. Each direction, 90 seconds wait if I recall correctly.
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post Sep 13 2021, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(ck2chan @ Sep 13 2021, 01:18 AM)
That T traffic light going to Ikea and Tesco will kill you during peak hour. Each direction, 90 seconds wait if I recall correctly.
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then dont drive out during peak hour la. so simple!
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post Sep 19 2021, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(holypredator @ Apr 10 2021, 10:13 PM)
What does Mossaz+Paxton got anything to do with what we are talking about....

These 2 are the office blocks... located behind Empire city... not on the D residential land....this is very old 2019 news....

Anyway... I don't want to go down the rabbit hole with you on this....

My posts from the beginning has always been touching on practical observation (i.e. the highway, the religious places, the surrounding area) NOT things that are in some plan or something in proposal... it's just some people here somehow steer the topic arguing about master plan...

At this point... what I can tell you is not to speculate because it seems that you are now desperate trying to find bits and pieces from artist impression and looking for hints... and then imagining they will develop them base on some vague information...(hack... Exsim din't even propose anything and people here assume development for themselves)

i know I've repeated the Tropicana Metropark story many time...hence I want to share with you an even more interesting story

I can tell you this.... SJCC in 2012 proposed by Sime Darby and MBSJ (Imagine...the developer and municipal in the discussion itself) .... which was also published on many news outlet like the edge, the star and the sun etc.. about the future of SJCC.... the artist impression shows a grand mall being build in front of the KTM/LRT station.... and there will be link bridge from the new mall to subang parade and big aeon to improve foot traffic and walkability... there were also an agreement with MBSJ to cover up all the drainage and widen the walk path to improve walkability in the new city centre.... back then ... the Suave (now Lot 15) .... is also linked directly to the mall with a bridge.... based on the artist impression... but now in 2020.... those things did not happen and most likely aren't going to happen... 80% of the plan has been scraped... the only thing left was building more residential apartments... and the mall (this wasn't scrapped but wasn't confirmed either... hence... it might end up being commercial shops or Soho but guaranteed not residential due the connectivity from the train to the rest of subang)
What I'm trying to say is.... things will always change... even if it is a proposal from big listed developers like Sime darby... even if it is published in the news... even if it was in the talks with officials.... it does not guarantee future development... What more when we are talking about smaller developer like Exsim and when they themselves haven't mentioned anything officially yet..
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If it was additional information, its fine, we get it already. No need to go around prove so many unclaimed information that developer themselves are not announcing yet.

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post Sep 19 2021, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(hebefuzheng @ Sep 19 2021, 06:03 PM)
If it was additional information, its fine, we get it already. No need to go around prove so many unclaimed information that developer themselves are not announcing yet.
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Yea... people should not try so hard to assume or convince others about something that the developer themselves did not promise...

also.. why suddenly quote my post back in april... almost half a year...

by the way.... I still don't see any park announcement from the developer ... even AFTER half year has gone...

did the developer shared the so called artist impression and then just forgot about it???
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Sep 19 2021, 06:38 PM)
Yea... people should not try so hard to assume or convince others about something that the developer themselves did not promise...

also.. why suddenly quote my post back in april... almost half a year...

by the way.... I still don't see any park announcement from the developer ... even AFTER half year has gone...

did the developer shared the so called artist impression and then just forgot about it???
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As far as the link bridge and the skypark is concerned, it is already being build, it is a fact that you can see it with your own eyes. In respect of the proposed public park located in the project site, thats something we do not know anything about it yet.

But as far as the link bridge and/or skypark is concerned, construction had already commenced and this could only mean they have obtained the relevant approval from the authorities.

And not that I'm not helping the developer, but sometimes just because there are some other developers that didnt do it, doesnt mean it is always the case.
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eXSIM IS KNOwn for pretty good facade! but lately they have been doing many high dense project, i saw the one in KL recently!!
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What is High Density? Per floors so many units? 12? Too much

Per blocks so many floors? 35? Wah, only 5 lifts, consider very high dense la

RM0.35 cents for maintenance is it too much? Want cheaper? Go back to when you are eating nasi lemak RM0.50 cents la then I will be satisfied biggrin.gif

Who want cheap? Who want traffic jam in KL? I wish I can drink RM1 per pint for Tiger whole day long, woohoo

I think migrate to jungle, don't need over the river la
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QUOTE(heiwa17 @ Dec 5 2021, 07:25 AM)
What is High Density? Per floors so many units? 12? Too much

Per blocks so many floors? 35? Wah, only 5 lifts, consider very high dense la

RM0.35 cents for maintenance is it too much? Want cheaper? Go back to when you are eating nasi lemak RM0.50 cents la then I will be satisfied biggrin.gif

Who want cheap? Who want traffic jam in KL? I wish I can drink RM1 per pint for Tiger whole day long, woohoo

I think migrate to jungle, don't need over the river la
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Can share total how many resi unit in central park damansara?
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 5 2021, 10:07 PM)
Can share total how many resi unit in central park damansara?
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Currently, as of phase 6, the total number is 6632 units for a 65 acre land. Not very high dense considering the total area available. However, the remaining plot of land has yet to be developed and more residential units might emerge.

If you are asking whether each of the project is high dense based on the land size allocated to each of them, then I would say it is very high dense. For example, D'Erica is alocated 3.15 acre of land for a 1094 units project, that is roughly 347 units per acre. Morever, all units are above 1k sqft with a minimum of 3 bedrooms. That is considered very high density if you ask me.
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QUOTE(MalcomShorten @ Dec 6 2021, 10:20 AM)
Currently, as of phase 6, the total number is 6632 units for a 65 acre land. Not very high dense considering the total area available. However, the remaining plot of land has yet to be developed and more residential units might emerge.

If you are asking whether each of the project is high dense based on the land size allocated to each of them, then I would say it is very high dense. For example, D'Erica is alocated 3.15 acre of land for a 1094 units project, that is roughly 347 units per acre. Morever, all units are above 1k sqft with a minimum of 3 bedrooms. That is considered very high density if you ask me.
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Yes true, different people has different point of view. High density can compare in many ways, by per-acre, by per-block, by per-floor hmm.gif

Earlier phrases is quite high dense no doubt, price is cheap.

But the later phrases than D' Erica is at a very low dense, price is still cheap, 590-770 units for 3 acres++ having 5-7 lifts (+ 1 service lift)
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QUOTE(heiwa17 @ Dec 5 2021, 09:20 PM)
Yes true, different people has different point of view. High density can compare in many ways, by per-acre, by per-block, by per-floor  hmm.gif

Earlier phrases is quite high dense no doubt, price is cheap.

But the later phrases than D' Erica is at a very low dense, price is still cheap, 590-770 units for 3 acres++ having 5-7 lifts (+ 1 service lift)
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Total 6600 unit so far and many more resi to come with 590-770 units is consider very low dense

All the best to all buyer for ownstay or invest

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 6 2021, 12:00 PM)
Total 6600 unit so far and many more resi to come with 590-770 units is consider very low dense

All the best to all buyer for ownstay or invest
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All the best to all buyers for ownstay or invest.

If we look into this project, it is a new township. Offering lowest RM persf, RM550?

How about surrounding area? Got lower than this offer? Probably RM700++ persf, maybe?

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QUOTE(heiwa17 @ Dec 14 2021, 03:01 AM)
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All the best to all buyers for ownstay or invest.

If we look into this project, it is a new township. Offering lowest RM persf, RM550?

How about surrounding area? Got lower than this offer? Probably RM700++ persf, maybe?

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It's that price in part because it's so high density. If it's lower density like 2k units within the area then confirm will not be that cheap already. More units = more people to share the cost.

Surrounding area all lower density, matures neighborhood, trying to compare whether a project is good/bad based purely on psf is false equivalence fallacy.

Lower psf is a plus point, but there's always a trade-off, and in this case here it's definitely the overall density of the project.
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Dec 14 2021, 10:36 AM)
It's that price in part because it's so high density. If it's lower density like 2k units within the area then confirm will not be that cheap already. More units = more people to share the cost.

Surrounding area all lower density, matures neighborhood, trying to compare whether a project is good/bad based purely on psf is false equivalence fallacy.

Lower psf is a plus point, but there's always a trade-off, and in this case here it's definitely the overall density of the project.
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Then the next question is who or what can absorb that density. It remains to be seen as the M40 cohort have greatly depreciated in spending power and it seems all developments in KV are targeting this 500k+ market hence the large supply.

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Hi All, so which condo under Exsim in Central Park Damansara that will be last completed?
Also, any zero downpayment?
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QUOTE(MARVIN333 @ Dec 28 2021, 05:51 PM)
Hi All, so which condo under Exsim in Central Park Damansara that will be last completed?
Also, any zero downpayment?
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