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wodenus
post Jan 3 2010, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 3 2010, 10:21 PM)
Hehe, I didn't know anything at that time. Just bought based on recommendations in the stock market thread. As I always say in the stock market thread, I like to follow people's backside!  laugh.gif

Oh, even though I wrote a guide about stocks, I'm still a noob in stocks. I can't even understand financial reports as I'm not in the financial field.  sweat.gif
I would say that I'm lucky to have entered the stock market at the bottom. That's why I want to exit before my luck runs out.

Hope the bear returns soon!!!!
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Amazing smile.gif you're a lucky gambler smile.gif I'm not. If I don't have a solid plan I can't sleep at night. We could have made 30%+ as well, but it was a heck of a risk to take, I mean how did you do it? you could have been wiped out in a month, you didn't think that you could be wiped out, or suffered serious losses if one or all companies went under?

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post Jan 3 2010, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(wirelessdude @ Jan 3 2010, 10:24 PM)
30% a year boring? You're kidding right?

I'd be happy to maintain an average 10% a year!
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We're targeting 30% a year. Whether we actually get 30% a year remains to be seen.
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post Jan 3 2010, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(lwb @ Jan 3 2010, 10:35 PM)
be honest.. what you did is as good as gambling/punting


Yea I did, that was the one and only time I was in the local market. That was because I didn't believe his claims that he could make 6% a month. So I put up some money, he put up some money and he showed me how it was done. I was sweating a lot because, like you said, it's gambling. It was gambling for me, because I didn't know what I was doing, but it wasn't gambling for him because he had all that stuff that I could make head or tail of that backed up his decisions. In the end I just made 6% in the one month that it took for him to prove me wrong. He went into private banking after that, so I never got the chance again.

QUOTE(lwb @ Jan 3 2010, 10:35 PM)
and i hope you're not trying to sell snake oil that claims that you're conservative/don't gamble/punt/speculate... when the very fact you've done in red is gambling/punting


It was gambling for me, but it wasn't gambling for him. I just followed him and sweated a lot. I was always thinking "if one company fails..." but he knew what he was doing so I just tagged along.

Now I don't gamble, I don't even speculate. I invest. I've never been comfortable punting like you guys. I like to set a strategy and follow it. We've hashed out every scenario, and we know what to do when something happens if it happens, so it's quite boring in the sense that we're not going "omg omg it's dropping what do we do what do we do" lol smile.gif

We just identify the right market, wait for the right time, and then we're in. We know exactly what the risks are, and we know we can handle whatever comes, so it's not like I have to look at it all the time.

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 3 2010, 10:51 PM)
One company did go under recently!!!! LCL went PN17. My first and only realized loss after one year of stock trading. Cut loss after 30% drop but was lucky as it dropped more than 80% after it went PN17!!!! I was also lucky as I didn't hold much of that counter as most of my cash was shifted to REITs.


You're brave. Our worst drawdown so far has been a little less than 10%. Like I said, it's boring lol, not 30% in six months or anything smile.gif

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 3 2010, 10:51 PM)
Errrmm.... how I did it? Errrmmm..... I started off planning to invest long-term in bluechip counters. However, got hooked on "gorenging" as the market was volatile. Made some money buying on dips and selling at high (counters such as Kinstel, LCL, gamuda, Sime, Uchitec, Lionind, Scomi, KNM, etc).


I remember KNM and Sime and Uchitec, that was in his portfolio as well.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 3 2010, 10:51 PM)
However, most of the money made was holding on to counters during the bullrun. The sad part was that I exited early as I thought the world economy was still in shambles and there would be a double dip. And there was the "feng shui" chart which predicted a market dip in Q2-Q3 '08!  sweat.gif So, I sold off most of my holdings in Q2 and missed the BIG BIG bullrun until the end of the year. There were a few forumers who rode the bull and got really good gains but I was not one of them.


We pulled out just before the crash. His point was made, there wasn't any point in going on.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 3 2010, 10:51 PM)
Whatever it is, I'm happy with my profit and I don't look back and ask "What if".......


I don't even remember the profit. All I remember was the hassle, the panic, the uncertainty of it all.

QUOTE(kmarc @ Jan 3 2010, 10:51 PM)
My lesson for the 2008 market crash is when it ever happens again, I will definitely buy bluechip counters for long-term investment.  nod.gif


Good for you then. I might be in mutual funds given the right time and opportunity, but probably not directly in the stock market. It's crazy to have to wait ten minutes for something to match.

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 3 2010, 11:04 PM)
Ha, if you can get 30% a year continuously, you will be better than Warren Buffett, he is only compounding an average of 15%-20% a year.  drool.gif
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Not 30% continuously, just 30% this year (and this year has just started) smile.gif

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jan 3 2010, 11:31 PM)
OIC u r also the supporter of FSM, i maintain account with FSM-HK. Their bond fund initial charge is 0.3%, equity fund only 1%, unlimitted free switching...very good deal.....wise choice.
Many Malaysian Investors do not believe cost of purchasing will affect their return in short/long run, and pay 5-7% initial charge to buy a fund....Ridiculous.
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Yea and on top of that they pay like 1.5% a year or something. Even so given the right time it might not be a bad idea.

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 3 2010, 11:27 PM)
Yeah, feeder fund are nasty, also local funds cannot invest 100% overseas. That's why all my international funds are from FSM singapore.  brows.gif
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What's FSM Singapore, I googled it and.. the only FSM I know is the one with the noodly appendages tongue.gif

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post Jan 3 2010, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Jan 3 2010, 11:44 PM)
Emm i think not right lar to advetise FSM in Public mUtual thread, or not later a lot of agents get angry.  laugh.gif
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Let's make them less angry then.. the charts seem to load a bit too slowly tongue.gif

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post Jan 4 2010, 12:08 AM

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Okay to get this back on track, know any agents that will look through the funds and alert you to any good opportunities?


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