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post May 28 2021, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(KennRicky @ May 28 2021, 11:59 AM)
Talk about Rashford again, he show his determination in his post match interview. But if he really want to improve himself, he need to improve his football intelligence, instead of skill.

He need to realize that his dribbling is not working when there is no space. He can fully utilize that when given space though. He need to be more confident in his crossing skill. It is not that he crossing skill is below average, his crossing is good. Cavani will do the run.

Stop thinking of being Messi, you are more like Rooney. Use more intelligence instead of skill. If he cannot improve his intelligence, die die want to dribble no matter how, I can't he is going to develop himself into world class. He will go downhill instead. Cuz very easy to mark.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 28 2021, 12:11 PM)
some say he is playing with injury for the past season. with euro coming not sure how he is going to change. better get good rest/surgery if needed.
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https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-unit...ue-final-defeat

Here is a related article that needs to be addressed when talking about Rashford. he points out that most of the starters are carrying injuries of their own.
Rashford has been carrying an injury all season and not having time to recuperate.

This is not the main problem, it is a symptom of a problem.
The problem here is the same players play all the time, and the bench is not trusted.

We touched on this mid season. Manchester United have been playing the same 11 players as soon as they are fit and not even subbing them during matches.
The bench players are not trusted. This means fatigue sets in and performances start to drop later in the season. Familiar? We crawled to the finish line in the League.

By the time we get to the final, none of our key players are 100% and are playing through the pain.
Man City are the exact opposite, their players are mostly 100% for every game and the results show.



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post May 28 2021, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ May 28 2021, 12:19 PM)
https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-unit...ue-final-defeat

Here is a related article that needs to be addressed when talking about Rashford. he points out that most of the starters are carrying injuries of their own.
Rashford has been carrying an injury all season and not having time to recuperate.

This is not the main problem, it is a symptom of a problem.
The problem here is the same players play all the time, and the bench is not trusted.

We touched on this mid season. Manchester United have been playing the same 11 players as soon as they are fit and not even subbing them during matches.
The bench players are not trusted. This means fatigue sets in and performances start to drop later in the season. Familiar? We crawled to the finish line in the League.

By the time we get to the final, none of our key players are 100% and are playing through the pain.
Man City are the exact opposite, their players are mostly 100% for every game and the results show.
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some say our bench no quality. but again, our bench not really given chance to rotate. whose problem is this then? the manager? his assistant? or the bench, who doesnt perform in training? laugh.gif
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post May 28 2021, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(statikinetic @ May 28 2021, 12:19 PM)
https://www.espn.com/soccer/manchester-unit...ue-final-defeat

Here is a related article that needs to be addressed when talking about Rashford. he points out that most of the starters are carrying injuries of their own.
Rashford has been carrying an injury all season and not having time to recuperate.

This is not the main problem, it is a symptom of a problem.
The problem here is the same players play all the time, and the bench is not trusted.

We touched on this mid season. Manchester United have been playing the same 11 players as soon as they are fit and not even subbing them during matches.
The bench players are not trusted. This means fatigue sets in and performances start to drop later in the season. Familiar? We crawled to the finish line in the League.

By the time we get to the final, none of our key players are 100% and are playing through the pain.
Man City are the exact opposite, their players are mostly 100% for every game and the results show.
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 28 2021, 12:22 PM)
some say our bench no quality. but again, our bench not really given chance to rotate. whose problem is this then? the manager? his assistant? or the bench, who doesnt perform in training?  laugh.gif
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it is because Ole's United dont have a system of play.. it is all up to individual brilliance.. waiting for someone to make that magnificent solo run and score/a killer pass/score a header from an outside box shot.. etc
that is why Rashford have been playing no matter what.. the kid have highest chance of making that individual brilliance moments than the others..

there is no system of play to fall back into.. not like City or Liverpoo, doesnt matter the personnel they play the same..
everyone knows what to do, where to be, when to run etc.. reducing the occurance of misplaced pass.. thats why they play slick silky smooth football..
if De Bruyne showing some fatigue sign, Pep will sub him out and they will still play the same way.. this is not the case with United
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QUOTE(zhou.xingxing @ May 28 2021, 12:22 PM)
some say our bench no quality. but again, our bench not really given chance to rotate. whose problem is this then? the manager? his assistant? or the bench, who doesnt perform in training?  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ May 28 2021, 12:40 PM)
it is because Ole's United dont have a system of play.. it is all up to individual brilliance.. waiting for someone to make that magnificent solo run and score/a killer pass/score a header from an outside box shot.. etc
that is why Rashford have been playing no matter what.. the kid have highest chance of making that individual brilliance moments than the others..

there is no system of play to fall back into.. not like City or Liverpoo, doesnt matter the personnel they play the same..
everyone knows what to do, where to be, when to run etc.. reducing the occurance of misplaced pass.. thats why they play slick silky smooth football..
if De Bruyne showing some fatigue sign, Pep will sub him out and they will still play the same way.. this is not the case with United
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This lies solely on the manager, who picks the team. Perhaps this is the reason we overachieved this season, at the expense of long term benefit.
Some of these players like Rashford will most like pay for it later in their careers.

It is a short term strategy. Ole has been quite similar with Mourinho here despite distancing himself from our former manager, squeezing every bit out of the players in the 1-2 seasons then moving on.
But can you blame him? He is literally playing for his future so a short term performance strategy is all that matters.

If Ole doesn't trust the bench, he needs to create a proper bench. I don't think he can keep playing the same 11 with no subs next season and get away with it.
Our players will turn into Phil Jones.
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QUOTE(KennRicky @ May 28 2021, 11:59 AM)
Talk about Rashford again, he show his determination in his post match interview. But if he really want to improve himself, he need to improve his football intelligence, instead of skill.

He need to realize that his dribbling is not working when there is no space. He can fully utilize that when given space though. He need to be more confident in his crossing skill. It is not that he crossing skill is below average, his crossing is good. Cavani will do the run.

Stop thinking of being Messi, you are more like Rooney. Use more intelligence instead of skill. If he cannot improve his intelligence, die die want to dribble no matter how, I can't he is going to develop himself into world class. He will go downhill instead. Cuz very easy to mark.
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I just hope he is godlike dribbler next season lol. Then all is forgiven. Cr7 also simply shoot weakly during his early days. Then his shot getting more and more powerful.

I think we don't have winning trophy mentality. Winning a trophy is sooo important to overcome this and they blundered it. Like our badminton always kelong when at match point.

It's as though they dun believe they are in that position of winning a trophy. We was at no1 half of the season and blundered it. Going for draw instead all out winning.
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post May 28 2021, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(damnself @ May 28 2021, 11:12 AM)


Haha. YouTube algorithm mmg jahat betul 😂 Ole need to win something next season. Tak kisah la it’s either kerbau cup ke. Fakap ke. Unai Emery league cup ke. Epl and ucl I think will be unlikely.
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Winning the UEL that season under Mourinho came with an extra motivation, a UCL spot. So there’s that.

But the pundits critics fans had all said it before & will say it again…Ole lacks tactical awareness. Whether he can get it through more experience is another matter altogether & to learn that experience with Man Utd now instead of elsewhere first is a debate that’s gonna go on & on.
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post May 28 2021, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(treblecase @ May 28 2021, 01:21 PM)
Winning the UEL that season under Mourinho came with an extra motivation, a UCL spot. So there’s that.

But the pundits critics fans had all said it before & will say it again…Ole lacks tactical awareness. Whether he can get it through more experience is another matter altogether & to learn that experience with Man Utd now instead of elsewhere first is a debate that’s gonna go on & on.
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with Ole, we have to lower down our expectation. they wont win anything under Ole. they just cant.
how to win when you play bad and still can stay on the pitch? how? its stupid. its all favouritism. at bests.

you cant. Ole fail to prove me wrong. he bottled it. vs villareal, not ajax, not barca, not even a top4 team at their peak. its a 7th place villareal.
no subs for 90mins, no desire, its not like they cant do it, they just TIRED, bruno looks like burn-out already, he need help. but how to help if there was no subs? Ole really bottled it big time. no excuses. its better to lose 2-1 than a penalty like this because its not the players fault. penalty kick really made the players a scapegoat. it shouldnt happen.

#OleOut
#ConteIn
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post May 28 2021, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(orga_laut @ May 28 2021, 01:37 PM)
with Ole, we have to lower down our expectation. they wont win anything under Ole. they just cant.
how to win when you play bad and still can stay on the pitch? how? its stupid. its all favouritism. at bests.

you cant. Ole fail to prove me wrong. he bottled it. vs villareal, not ajax, not barca, not even a top4 team at their peak. its a 7th place villareal.
no subs for 90mins, no desire, its not like they cant do it, they just TIRED, bruno looks like burn-out already, he need help. but how to help if there was no subs? Ole really bottled it big time. no excuses. its better to lose 2-1 than a penalty like this because its not the players fault. penalty kick really made the players a scapegoat. it shouldnt happen.

#OleOut
#ConteIn
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conte not gonna come if the board not supporting him. he left inter cause inter need to sell and raise 80m to meet their financial obligation. and i think partly is lukaku money that they still owe us laugh.gif
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post May 28 2021, 04:22 PM

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you know, ole is like a average gamer playing games. in the game, he only use the weapons with top damage. other weapons that have other better attributes, he wont use. if his top weapon koyak, then gg. dunno how to play dy.
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post May 28 2021, 05:06 PM

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imo the owners will buy 1 or 2 top player this transfer window.. an attempt to win back the supporters.. the 1st one will be Sancho
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post May 28 2021, 05:24 PM

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I prefer zidane. Conte 3 center back formation not my fav but I'll still stick to ole another season haha
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ May 28 2021, 05:06 PM)
imo the owners will buy 1 or 2 top player this transfer window.. an attempt to win back the supporters.. the 1st one will be Sancho
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David Beckham will replace Glazers.
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post May 28 2021, 10:38 PM

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so we signed anyone yet?

Aguero, depay and Wijnaldum for barcelona next week. fuhh
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post May 28 2021, 11:16 PM

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Haha. Jelly weh.....
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ May 28 2021, 10:38 PM)
so we signed anyone yet?


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with glazers, matt judge, murtuogh?
this is what going to happen:
- media transfer hyped like idiot (sancho, ronaldo, haaland, rice, neves)
- sign nobody until the last day transfer window, panic buy CB tyron mings
- jesse stays to cover winger
- dalot stays to cover wanbissaka
- McFred midfild remain as midfild pivot

prove me wrong!

This post has been edited by orga_laut: May 28 2021, 11:50 PM
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post May 29 2021, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ May 28 2021, 10:38 PM)
so we signed anyone yet?

Aguero, depay and Wijnaldum for barcelona next week. fuhh
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Got koeman cannot win
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post May 29 2021, 03:07 AM

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QUOTE(damnself @ May 28 2021, 11:16 PM)
Haha. Jelly weh.....
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and United think they got the right man to take them forward laugh.gif
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